5 ways Apple is like things I hate in people - Page 4
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + June 15: I order the Macbook Pro 15" with 7200RPM 500GB harddisk June 29: I receive it and within minutes experience that it freezes and makes a beep. I ignore it for now June 30: I start to realize that I can't use it properly if it's going to continue like that, and call Apple Care. They tell me to do basic stuff, like restarting the computer and to take disk check, which I say I've already done. They say they will call back with more information. July 3: As I was really impatient and still hadn't heard from Apple, I called them again. They said that I could try to format the hard disk and install Mac OSX Leopard again. I did this, but I still had the problem. I started to search around the internet to try to find a solution. What I found was several websites reporting that people have experienced this problem, and a thread on the Apple discussions forum that was 10 pages long, with many people posting in it. People conclude that there is a problem with the Seagate Momentus 7200RPM 500GB hard drive. July 4: I call Apple Support again and tell them that reinstalling Mac OSX didn't work, and that there are several people experiencing this problem. They said that many people can lie on the internet, so I shouldn't trust that so many people have the problem, and denied that there were a big problem with the harddisk. They said they were going to call me back with further info. July 5-23: Many calls back and forth regarding the problem, nothing works. More people report the problem on the Apple discussions forum, but Apple Support still denies that there is a problem. July 24: An Apple Support employee sends me an email where he tells me to send him an audio recording where the freeze occurs, as I told him on the phone that when the Macbook Pro froze when I was recording midi, you still could hear a freeze-sound on the recording. I had deleted all the files, so I didn't have something to send right away, but I had found this site with more info on the issue, so I sent that to him. It was this article that I sent: http://www.macnn.com/articles/09/07/09/macbook.pro.defect/ He ignored the email completely. July 28: Found a clip where the freeze happened and sent it to him. I received an email back saying that he would forward it to his engineers. July 29-August 3: Waiting... August 4: I send a mail to Seagate, in hope that at least they can fix it since Apple just ignores the problem. A few hours later I get an answer saying: "The drive is an OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) drive. This means that the warranty on the drive lies under the Place of Purchase. If this is a MAC then the OEM is most likely Apple. I would suggest calling them. If there is any upgrade or warranty they would be the provider." I ask if they have any tips, and tell them that Apple ignores the problem. I get a reply from Seagate that tells me that Apple is aware of the issue and that they are working on a fix. The same day Apple Support calls and asks for my email as they will send me a program that can find the problem. When asked, they still refused that there was a problem with the hard drive. They send me Capture Data, an application that will find the problem. I send the Capture Data file back on the same day. Also on the same day, I posted in a thread on the Apple discussions forum called "how to screw up my macbook pro 13''". Being sick of this whole situation, I posted: "You wanna screw it up? Install a 7200RPM drive..." I soon received an email that said that my post was removed. I first thought this was because of the word "screw", but the thread had that word in it, and it wasn't deleted. August 7: I get a call from Apple saying that I will get a new Macbook Pro 15". I am very happy with this solution. August 15: The new Macbook Pro 15" was sent August 20: Got the new Macbook Pro 15" and realize that it has the same problem. I start to call again... August 27: A friend spills coffee on the table by the Macbook Pro. A little of it gets inside the USB port on the Macbook Pro, I'm not noticing this at all. November 9: Apple Support say that I should give it to Eplehuset in Trondheim for service. They don't find anything. November 9-26: Calling, hoping to get a new machine. November 27: Apple Support say that I should give it to Eplehuset for service again, and that Apple will call Eplehuset and guide them to fix the problem. When I get it back I just rarely experience that the Macbook Pro freezes, but now it randomly shuts down. January 26: I give my Macbook Pro to Eplehuset in Trondheim again, for service. At first they can't find and fix the problem, but after a few days they find that there were spilled coffee on the mainboard. I was surprised at first, as I hadn't noticed that coffee have been spilled, but said that they should change the mainboard, which cost me 11000NKR, about 1800USD. After I get it back, I am convinced it would be fixed, as both the mainboard and harddrive have been replaced now. It still randomly shut down. March 17: Gave it to Eplehuset Trondheim again. They found that the fans to cool down the machine didn't work properly, so the machine overheated. I took back the machine, as I thought I would get a new one from Apple. March 25: Called Apple, and they said that I had to give it to Eplehuset again, and that Apple would guide the technicians at Eplehuset to fix it. Gave it to Eplehuset, still haven't been fixed. To be continued... | ||
Arrian
United States889 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11035 Posts
Apple has fantastic marketing. Seriously. It's amazing how they've managed to increase their marketshare (in computers and phones) and boost that brand's power. Secondly, some people are computer newbs and point 5 is irrelevant to them. | ||
ironchef
Canada1350 Posts
To me the policies that annoy me: - Control over hardware, makes it harder/more expensive to upgrade unlike a PC. I think its gotten better but MAC ram use to be insane iirc. Theres options but they come with consequences (ie nulling you warranty) -A lot of their recent actions wrt patents etc seem greedy -very restrictive policy and tons of hoops to go through for developers. Blah blah blah opensource -some questionable app store policies (maybe exaggerated ?) That said, cant say I hate them. They make good products and do things to make themselves money and control their product to a finer degree. Kind of more an annoyance, just to put it in perspective. | ||
Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On June 28 2010 22:58 Eiserne wrote: completely disagree. what a stupid blog. most of what you state is not true in any way shape or form. another apple hate post from teamliquid. it's despicable. Your opinion is unbelievably biased. You were dumb enough to waste an incredible amount of money that you didn't have on an iPhone and then proceeded to try to justify it and say it's necessary to your lifestyle. Aside from that, I pretty much agree with the OP. You basically spend a ridiculous amount of money on the brand whereas if you go anywhere else you could get the same for significantly less. | ||
29 fps
United States5718 Posts
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
But the one thing that really bugs me is that people tell me Macs look good. What the bloody fuck? I mean sure, I'll give you that the oustide looks fine, neat little gray thing, but the inside is fugly as hell. The keyboard is like a 3 year old took 2 pictures, a picture of a gray wall and a picture of an (IMO ugly) keyboard and put them together. Can't stand the keyboard either (more windows vs mac intuition, apple key is so much less easy to use than the ctrl key). The only thing I like about it is multi-touch though that's more a hardware issue and not a aesthetics thing. Then all the applications are that same depressing monochrome gray, like it's some sort of dystopian future and we've all been relegated to wearing grays and living in gray rooms. Makes me sick. At least windows has colors. Unless you can actually change the Mac's skin, but I've never seen anybody with any skin other than that depressing gray skin. | ||
luminaire
United States56 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
I don't personally use Apple products with an exception of iPod - I use PCs and a BlackBerry. This whole Apple vs PC argument and hatred is so ridiculous to me lol. Apple products are cool and I appreciate them. Does this mean that I buy whatever they release? No. Do I think that the kids who use them want to look cool and trendy? No. | ||
SoManyDeadLings
Canada255 Posts
On June 28 2010 23:07 Cambium wrote: As for #2, I think MBPs are actually quite good. MBPs are actually very good computers especially for software developers (and I am part of this group) and people who edit videos (or so I hear). Nice that you've bought into the Apple marketing. I mean, if I was a software developer or edit videos, then i just HAVE to have a MBP or Thinkpad because the Core 2 Duos and RAM sticks in those are specially designed for professional use. If I tried to edit videos on my Acer it would probably blow up in my face, and there's no way I can program in any language without a MBP. Thanks for reminding me to get a MBP, ordering one online now -> 24hr shipping! | ||
Gann1
United States1575 Posts
a) there's always a cheaper, equally good(if not better) alternative b) i fucking hate their marketing It makes me angry that so many people buy into Apple's bullshit hipster marketing. | ||
Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On June 29 2010 12:38 Gann1 wrote: i will never buy an apple product because: a) there's always a cheaper, equally good(if not better) alternative b) i fucking hate their marketing It makes me angry that so many people buy into Apple's bullshit hipster marketing. Did you know that iPads are magical? It said it on TV. | ||
BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
Then again, I will never buy anything again from Apple because I really don't like their business decisions. They make a lot of business decisions that are absolutely brilliant from the business standpoint but absolutely horrible from the customer's standpoint. Steve Jobs is a very smart man, but he's realized that he actually doesn't need to give a shit about Apple fanboys, and he's started treating them accordingly, and they still eat it up like fucking candy. No way I'm getting anywhere near that. Plus, I'm a programmer, so most of the time I'm using KDE anyway :D | ||
matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
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intrudor
Canada446 Posts
Yeah, they're cool. Yeah they're somewhat overpriced. But thats why you gotta choose the shit you buy and the shit you dont buy. And try not to pay full retail on Apple stuff... lots of ways to do that. you just gotta be smart; iPod; the only Apple thing i own. 5thGen 8GB Nano. Picked it up "used for a month, like-new" on craigslist for $90. Case closed. Love the thing. iPhone; i'd never buy one but that has more to do with the retardedly high monthly phone bills that you gotta pay. i think the actual iPhone is amazing. iPad; not my thing, and probably not worth $500+ but my friend has one and its really really cool.. i might pick one up on the cheap in a few years.. the thing is awesome seriously.. MacBookPros; best laptops ive ever seen. tons of friends have this thing. Way too expensive tho. iTunes; retarded. use foobar2000 instead. iMac; LoL? | ||
phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
take a look at the command key placement (different, but completely awkward, as opposed to control key) or placing the close, minimze buttons on the left side (oh yeah! cannot be the same as boooring others) or take a look at their retarded mouse (cannot have a scroll wheel! must do something different) or even itunes, possibly the most heinous software i have come across | ||
endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
And lol at the death grip on iPhone 4 ! | ||
AyeH
United States534 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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