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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
June 28 2010 15:58 GMT
#41
People use iTunes because it's easy to use. Much easier than any othe MP3 player I've ever seen. (If you can find something simpler and more useful, please tell me, I'm not overly addicted to Apple.)

But on the whole I'm slowly growing away from Apple (my family is Mac-happy). The airport is pretty much unstable and unreliable (although AT&T DSL doesn't help matters). My current computer is a MacBook, but I end up spending most of my time on the Windows install because I've found I like it better... and the Mac OS doesn't handle mousing well. And that one-button trackpad thing.
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VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
June 28 2010 16:10 GMT
#42
You know, it's fine that somebody doesn't likes Mac. Its fine that somebody doesn't gets how Apple dies things. But I have a problem with people pretending that all Mac users are the same. There is a lot of very intelligent people who use Macs because they actually find them to be better tools for productivity and development.

In the same way you can hate Mac users for being douchebags, you can make funof average Windows users for not knowing any better.
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Zapperkhan
Profile Joined October 2008
United States436 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-28 16:14:07
June 28 2010 16:13 GMT
#43
On June 29 2010 00:41 hi19hi19 wrote:
Can someone give me one compelling reason to buy an ipad? I have yet to figure it out myself.

There's potential for neat games and such with a big touch screen like that. As of right now it's a big iPod touch. There's already cool things happening like using your iPad as a screen while using your iPhone as a controller playing emulators. Sure it's expensive to play Mario, but take that idea and expand it to other things. They have Scrabble for the iPad also with using your iPhone as the letter holder and the iPad itself is the gameboard.

In a more general sense a lot of these devices have blue tooth built in. So hopefully, and I believe in some cases exist already, there is interplatform play. So you could use your favorite Android hardware as well.
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
June 28 2010 16:17 GMT
#44
On June 29 2010 01:10 VManOfMana wrote:
You know, it's fine that somebody doesn't likes Mac. Its fine that somebody doesn't gets how Apple dies things. But I have a problem with people pretending that all Mac users are the same. There is a lot of very intelligent people who use Macs because they actually find them to be better tools for productivity and development.

In the same way you can hate Mac users for being douchebags, you can make funof average Windows users for not knowing any better.


About 10 posts earlier, in response to a similar erroneous critique, I wrote:

On June 28 2010 23:32 Arrian wrote:
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On June 28 2010 23:18 Eiserne wrote:
On June 28 2010 23:15 Arrian wrote:
On June 28 2010 23:01 Liquid`NonY wrote:
What's wrong with the iPhone? Not sure what shitty students you know but every student I know who has an iPhone has made good use of it. I've never seen any of them try to appear cool for having an iPhone. I've also never seen an iPhone's battery fail to last through the day. But if it did fail to last through the day, it must have been getting a damn lot of use, like all day non-stop use, and so there goes any argument that it's not useful and is only there for the coolness factor.


When they released the OS, many iPhones wouldn't download it. I know somebody whose iPhone was bricked by the new OS. I also don't like the fact that Apple locks their software to third party programs, which is their perrogative of course, but they void the warranty if you exercise fair use and unlock it to third party programs (i.e jailbreaking as it is known).

No battery removal is an issue. Just like the upgrade issues with the computers, they require you to send (I actually don't know about the newest iPhone but I suspect that it's the same) in the phone to have them replace the battery. It's a battery replacement...it's simple and cheap for everyone else, why not for Apple too?

Those are a few things that are undesirable about the iPhone. It was an innovation, but I don't understand why Apple can't play nice like everyone else, make their upgrading system usable and not detrimental, let you exercise fair use (same thing with their unlocking verification system with iTunes purchases), and let you replace the battery yourself and not charge you an arm and a leg for simple things. And maybe I'm old fashioned, but if your phone battery doesn't get you at least a few days, isn't that a bad thing to begin with? My phone battery gets me a week, and I use it frequently.

You're obviously not using a phone with an internet connection so why are you bitching about iPhones? It's apples and oranges to you.

I don't have a problem with people using Apple products. You use whatever you want. Your needs might make Apple products better, especially for editing, which Macs are especially good at. I'm just pointing out that Apple's products are inferior in regards customization, depth, and service (the last one I suppose is mostly my experience). If you love Apple, that's cool. I bear you no ill will. I bear Apple ill will, however.

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Tonkerchen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
680 Posts
June 28 2010 16:18 GMT
#45
Well, for most products I completely agree. iPhone might be ok, but imo too big for a cellphone. iPad n/c. iMac well, I'd prefer buying a strong windows machine for 700 € and a screen for 400€ for the same price, case solved. MacPro is too expensive for me, as no professional video editor or whatelse.

But when it comes to notebooks I have to say that the White MacBook and the smallest MacBook Pro (13") are pretty decent, especially when you get some reduction when you're student/pupil. The bigger versions are too expensive imo.

I just hardly can find notebook which has the same weight, battery duration and handling for the same price. Plus, with MacOSX you get some really nice funtions which I really dont want to miss anymore. Like scrolling with two fingers on touchpad, spaces, tab switch with 4 fingers. It's all adjustable. This makes surfing and working very comfortable on notebooks.
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zerostumbleine33
Profile Joined May 2009
United States18 Posts
June 28 2010 16:29 GMT
#46
On June 28 2010 22:58 Eiserne wrote:
completely disagree. what a stupid blog. most of what you state is not true in any way shape or form.

another apple hate post from teamliquid. it's despicable.


wow you are so rude, go back to your own blog where every poster told you to get rid of your iphone since you have no money. your blog was stupid. Everything he states IS true, can you remove the back of your iphone to manually repair something? No, I don't think so. Apple is more expensive, for less features...and that is very true. The ipad is a big iphone...its just larger! It isn't a computer, and doesn't let you install real hardware, its just a large iphone. And apple products are trendy for students who can't learn to use a pen and paper for their scheduling and "need" an apple product to do it for them.

I completely agree with the OP, apple products don't last very long, and getting them replaced or fixed costs so much. They don't offer any real services for repairs. I have lots of friends who love Mac products, but when their iphone's broke, they had to go out and pay full price for all new ones. Kind of ridiculous since they didn't even have the phones for a year. When my phone stopped charging, I got a new battery for free, no hassle. Not to mention, Apple has yet to set up a variety of stores in many areas to help their "huge" fanbase. I'd have to drive 3 hours to get to my closest apple store if I wanted to take a look at their shit or get help. What a ripoff.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
June 28 2010 16:48 GMT
#47
Eloquent and very well said. You make some great points about why Apple is a bundle of sadface. Don't forget, Apple offers nothing over Windows computers in terms of hardware power, they just offer the same specs for $400+ more. But to some I guess the OS and Apple brand is worth it. Can't say I agree.
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Setz3R
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States455 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-28 17:04:36
June 28 2010 17:04 GMT
#48
I wholeheartedly agree with your statements, until the iPhone 4 came out. I've personally never owned any apple products at ALL besides an ipod a long time ago. I pretty much brushed apple off to the side. I remember growing up when computers first started coming around in grade school they would teach us how to type (on a crapantosh) and it sucked.

My experience with apple is they've never really been a "good" company to me. When they started getting trendy I got confused cause I personally wouldn't buy most of their products, but their marketing is second to none. They REALLY know how to sell their products, get people to get hyped up over it, and in turn, make a ton of cash.

iPhone 4 is the same way, hyped up to the teeth, making the product look about a million times better than what you're really holding in your hand. BUT, for the low price of $200, right now, as of this moment, it's probably the best phone on the market, hands down. There are many features they FINALLY got into the iphone to make it worth the purchase. I'd have to say, for someone who typically dislikes apple products, only has ever really had an ipod, I'm enjoying my iPhone 4.

The battery life still kinda blows even though they tried to make it better. The camera on the phone is the ABSOLUTE best I've seen on any phone, plus playing around with video chat is pretty fun. I'm not trying to advertise for the iPhone right now, I still think apple sucks because they took like 4 generations of the iPhone to bring it on par with every other phone on the market, but as far as that goes--they really went above and beyond the craptacular MyTouch I had, for guess what--the same price.
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Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
June 28 2010 17:04 GMT
#49
I'd really like to post an image macro and say "OH BOY HERE WE GO AGAIN" since this is what I see everyday on /g/, but since this is teamliquid, I have a challenge for mac users.
This is a benchmark score from a PC I built in 2008 for $1200.
I'd like to see someone with a modern Mac beat it.
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RoyalCheese
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic745 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-28 17:11:21
June 28 2010 17:09 GMT
#50
i bought myself the 13" apple macbook like a year ago...its not awful but i would not buy it again...too much hassle to get shit work for me, but if i was buying a pc for gaming, i would probably choose system with OS X over Win 7

i would also choose iPhone 4 over my HTC Desire anyday...too bad it costs twice the money of Desire
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 28 2010 17:14 GMT
#51
i can barely hear most people who talk to me over their iphone and they can't hear me unless their environment is relatively silent. they really botched the phone portion of it
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
June 28 2010 17:15 GMT
#52
I've enjoyed my iPod video for about 4 years now. I suppose I'm not a "true apple user" because I have a strange lack of desire to upgrade or replace all my gadgets with apple products.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7928 Posts
June 28 2010 17:40 GMT
#53
I don't like apple, but iphone is a good phone.

I have Nokia N97, and it would tell me three pages to explain you how shit it is compared to an iphone.
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Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
June 28 2010 17:42 GMT
#54
I hate Apple too, especially with the 2000$ laptops
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-28 17:47:31
June 28 2010 17:47 GMT
#55
eh, physical design can have a place in computers as well these days. hating apple for being overpriced for their level of power is like hating a designer suit because it's uncomfortable to jog in

i'd get a 13 inch black macbook if I could afford it, but that kind of price tag is hard to justify if you aren't really well off financially
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
June 28 2010 17:54 GMT
#56
I dont like Apple for overpricing their products.

I dont like Apple for calling everybody who doesnt use Apple products uncool.

I dont like MacOSX because its really ugly.

I like the iPhone.
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sront
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany18 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-28 18:33:16
June 28 2010 18:32 GMT
#57
i have and will never understand the desire to buy an Ipod... back in 2002 i bought myself an Archos Gmini with 20gb of space for like, 90€. at the same time my brother has bought himself the early Ipod. 4gb. over 200€ if i recall right. i compared them, and i gotta say: wow, the ipod sucks. less space, worse sound, higher price.
Recently i had to buy a new MP3 player. decided on the Samsung YP-Q2 after testing. i was sure to not buy the ipod, but i had to laugh at the soundchip. thats just... ridicoulus. i used my Etymolic Research ER 6 i-solator in ear headphones (they were more expensive than the samsung mp3 player, but whoah, are they worth it) to test both. as i said. nothing has changed. ipod still expensive, still no sound. space doesnt matter anymore. Size wise, they were all the same. early ipod was thinner, but bigger than archos. now they are kinda the same.
while the Mac may be better for things like cutting movies and stuff, i refuse to believe its good for anything else. lately, a friend of mine was over with his MBP, and he just sat there crying since nothing was working on that stupid OS. he cried when we had like 3 spare beta keys. i mean, you spend twice the money on an MBP than you do on an technically equal laptop, even no name laptop, and get less usability for more "stability". oh, while we're on the stability topic, the MBP crashed like 3 to 4 times that evening while the windows 7 and vista machines were running like they're supposed to.
but i dislike microsoft too. i recall a phrase from the old dev bunker jobs and gates were in together "software should be free for everyone"... we see the effects of the "free" software now.
please, let the age of free of charge OS come faster. Ubuntu (i think i used hardy heron) was nice to use, some more dev work and it is fit to take the place of windows and mac osX soon. switched back to windows cuz of the better compatibility. but soon, the compatibility problem will have its end. the dawn of free software has arrived. finally.

btw, we were trying to play civ 4 that evening.
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Finskie
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden412 Posts
June 28 2010 18:49 GMT
#58
I agree with 4/5 of yer points OP. I love my iPod because it's the best MP3-player around really. (Classic 160gb) Apples support is rediculous and having recently changed a harddrive on the iMac G5 for ALOT of munies makes it just not worth it for a shiny computer with a interface made for children.
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Canada2433 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-28 19:08:59
June 28 2010 19:08 GMT
#59
Eh im loving my iPod touch, and basically all iPods i've ever owned.
I do agree with Macs being way too expensive when i can get a better ( performance-wise) , and longer lasting computer for about half the price.
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
June 28 2010 19:27 GMT
#60
apple sucked when they were just pushing desktops (and shitty ibooks) but they really excel at making quality portable devices because that's when material quality in the casing and stuff actually matters.

i mean, i couldn't justify paying 1.7k for a MBP but i sure as hell would like to have one if i used a laptop.
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