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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 28 2010 20:19 GMT
#61
I think OP hit the nail on the head
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
June 28 2010 20:49 GMT
#62
I have to have a mac as I study music and we have to use mac software. My experience with Mac is not good though. Press spoiler for the story. Summary: I bought it over one year ago, still doesn't work.

+ Show Spoiler +
June 15: I order the Macbook Pro 15" with 7200RPM 500GB harddisk
June 29: I receive it and within minutes experience that it freezes and makes a beep. I ignore it for now
June 30: I start to realize that I can't use it properly if it's going to continue like that, and call Apple Care. They tell me to
do basic stuff, like restarting the computer and to take disk check, which I say I've already done. They say they will call back
with more information.
July 3: As I was really impatient and still hadn't heard from Apple, I called them again. They said that I could try to format the
hard disk and install Mac OSX Leopard again. I did this, but I still had the problem. I started to search around the internet to
try to find a solution. What I found was several websites reporting that people have experienced this problem, and a thread on
the Apple discussions forum that was 10 pages long, with many people posting in it. People conclude that there is a problem with
the Seagate Momentus 7200RPM 500GB hard drive.
July 4: I call Apple Support again and tell them that reinstalling Mac OSX didn't work, and that there are several people
experiencing this problem. They said that many people can lie on the internet, so I shouldn't trust that so many people have the
problem, and denied that there were a big problem with the harddisk. They said they were going to call me back with further info.
July 5-23: Many calls back and forth regarding the problem, nothing works. More people report the problem on the Apple discussions
forum, but Apple Support still denies that there is a problem.
July 24: An Apple Support employee sends me an email where he tells me to send him an audio recording where the freeze occurs, as
I told him on the phone that when the Macbook Pro froze when I was recording midi, you still could hear a freeze-sound on the
recording. I had deleted all the files, so I didn't have something to send right away, but I had found this site with more info on
the issue, so I sent that to him. It was this article that I sent: http://www.macnn.com/articles/09/07/09/macbook.pro.defect/ He
ignored the email completely.
July 28: Found a clip where the freeze happened and sent it to him. I received an email back saying that he would forward it to
his engineers.
July 29-August 3: Waiting...
August 4: I send a mail to Seagate, in hope that at least they can fix it since Apple just ignores the problem. A few hours later
I get an answer saying: "The drive is an OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) drive. This means that the warranty on the drive
lies under the Place of Purchase. If this is a MAC then the OEM is most likely Apple. I would suggest calling them. If there
is any upgrade or warranty they would be the provider." I ask if they have any tips, and tell them that Apple ignores the problem.
I get a reply from Seagate that tells me that Apple is aware of the issue and that they are working on a fix. The same day Apple
Support calls and asks for my email as they will send me a program that can find the problem. When asked, they still refused
that there was a problem with the hard drive. They send me Capture Data, an application that will find the problem. I send the
Capture Data file back on the same day. Also on the same day, I posted in a thread on the Apple discussions forum called "how to
screw up my macbook pro 13''". Being sick of this whole situation, I posted: "You wanna screw it up? Install a 7200RPM drive..."
I soon received an email that said that my post was removed. I first thought this was because of the word "screw", but the
thread had that word in it, and it wasn't deleted.
August 7: I get a call from Apple saying that I will get a new Macbook Pro 15". I am very happy with this solution.
August 15: The new Macbook Pro 15" was sent
August 20: Got the new Macbook Pro 15" and realize that it has the same problem. I start to call again...
August 27: A friend spills coffee on the table by the Macbook Pro. A little of it gets inside the USB port on the Macbook Pro,
I'm not noticing this at all.
November 9: Apple Support say that I should give it to Eplehuset in Trondheim for service. They don't find anything.
November 9-26: Calling, hoping to get a new machine.
November 27: Apple Support say that I should give it to Eplehuset for service again, and that Apple will call Eplehuset and guide
them to fix the problem. When I get it back I just rarely experience that the Macbook Pro freezes, but now it randomly shuts down.
January 26: I give my Macbook Pro to Eplehuset in Trondheim again, for service. At first they can't find and fix the problem, but
after a few days they find that there were spilled coffee on the mainboard. I was surprised at first, as I hadn't noticed that
coffee have been spilled, but said that they should change the mainboard, which cost me 11000NKR, about 1800USD. After I get it
back, I am convinced it would be fixed, as both the mainboard and harddrive have been replaced now. It still randomly shut down.
March 17: Gave it to Eplehuset Trondheim again. They found that the fans to cool down the machine didn't work properly, so the
machine overheated. I took back the machine, as I thought I would get a new one from Apple.
March 25: Called Apple, and they said that I had to give it to Eplehuset again, and that Apple would guide the technicians at Eplehuset to fix it. Gave it to Eplehuset, still haven't been fixed.

To be continued...
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Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
June 28 2010 20:53 GMT
#63
I have a good friend who uses a MBP for music study (composition, specifically) and it actually works pretty well for him. I will say that the Mac Book Pros are actually pretty good machines, but they're the only macs I would ever consider getting, and would prefer if they were considerably cheaper to match Dell/HP prices.
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
June 28 2010 21:52 GMT
#64
2 things.

Apple has fantastic marketing. Seriously. It's amazing how they've managed to increase their marketshare (in computers and phones) and boost that brand's power.

Secondly, some people are computer newbs and point 5 is irrelevant to them.
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ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
June 28 2010 21:53 GMT
#65
Not sure i totally agree. Yeah fanboyism is annoying but it shouldnt really detract from a product. IMO theye pretty strong products that are somewhat overpriced. (works for them).

To me the policies that annoy me:
- Control over hardware, makes it harder/more expensive to upgrade unlike a PC. I think its gotten better but MAC ram use to be insane iirc. Theres options but they come with consequences (ie nulling you warranty)
-A lot of their recent actions wrt patents etc seem greedy
-very restrictive policy and tons of hoops to go through for developers. Blah blah blah opensource
-some questionable app store policies (maybe exaggerated ?)

That said, cant say I hate them. They make good products and do things to make themselves money and control their product to a finer degree. Kind of more an annoyance, just to put it in perspective.

“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-28 23:16:05
June 28 2010 22:55 GMT
#66
On June 28 2010 22:58 Eiserne wrote:
completely disagree. what a stupid blog. most of what you state is not true in any way shape or form.

another apple hate post from teamliquid. it's despicable.


Your opinion is unbelievably biased. You were dumb enough to waste an incredible amount of money that you didn't have on an iPhone and then proceeded to try to justify it and say it's necessary to your lifestyle.

Aside from that, I pretty much agree with the OP. You basically spend a ridiculous amount of money on the brand whereas if you go anywhere else you could get the same for significantly less.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
June 29 2010 01:54 GMT
#67
im just wondering. in what way is itunes malware? i think it's not very user-friendly, but how is it malware?
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King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 01:59:51
June 29 2010 01:59 GMT
#68
I don't like Macs for a bunch of reasons other people have said to (customization, UI intuition, customization, etc).

But the one thing that really bugs me is that people tell me Macs look good.

What the bloody fuck? I mean sure, I'll give you that the oustide looks fine, neat little gray thing, but the inside is fugly as hell. The keyboard is like a 3 year old took 2 pictures, a picture of a gray wall and a picture of an (IMO ugly) keyboard and put them together. Can't stand the keyboard either (more windows vs mac intuition, apple key is so much less easy to use than the ctrl key). The only thing I like about it is multi-touch though that's more a hardware issue and not a aesthetics thing.

Then all the applications are that same depressing monochrome gray, like it's some sort of dystopian future and we've all been relegated to wearing grays and living in gray rooms. Makes me sick. At least windows has colors.

Unless you can actually change the Mac's skin, but I've never seen anybody with any skin other than that depressing gray skin.
luminaire
Profile Joined May 2010
United States56 Posts
June 29 2010 02:41 GMT
#69
I am not a fan of Apple either, but I have to say that ipods are by far the most reliable mp3 device out there.
Work hard and never give up.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
June 29 2010 03:04 GMT
#70
iPods are awesome. iPhones are awesome. Macbooks are easy and convenient.

I don't personally use Apple products with an exception of iPod - I use PCs and a BlackBerry. This whole Apple vs PC argument and hatred is so ridiculous to me lol. Apple products are cool and I appreciate them. Does this mean that I buy whatever they release? No. Do I think that the kids who use them want to look cool and trendy? No.
SoManyDeadLings
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada255 Posts
June 29 2010 03:38 GMT
#71
On June 28 2010 23:07 Cambium wrote:

As for #2, I think MBPs are actually quite good. MBPs are actually very good computers especially for software developers (and I am part of this group) and people who edit videos (or so I hear).



Nice that you've bought into the Apple marketing.

I mean, if I was a software developer or edit videos, then i just HAVE to have a MBP or Thinkpad because the Core 2 Duos and RAM sticks in those are specially designed for professional use. If I tried to edit videos on my Acer it would probably blow up in my face, and there's no way I can program in any language without a MBP.

Thanks for reminding me to get a MBP, ordering one online now -> 24hr shipping!
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Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
June 29 2010 03:38 GMT
#72
i will never buy an apple product because:

a) there's always a cheaper, equally good(if not better) alternative
b) i fucking hate their marketing

It makes me angry that so many people buy into Apple's bullshit hipster marketing.
I drop suckas like Plinko
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 29 2010 04:07 GMT
#73
On June 29 2010 12:38 Gann1 wrote:
i will never buy an apple product because:

a) there's always a cheaper, equally good(if not better) alternative
b) i fucking hate their marketing

It makes me angry that so many people buy into Apple's bullshit hipster marketing.

Did you know that iPads are magical? It said it on TV.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 29 2010 04:15 GMT
#74
I agree with everything except the durability. I have a 3rd gen 30 gig ipod video, I've had it since it first came out, and the thing still runs amazing, and even still has a good 8 hours of battery life on a good day. Sure, it's held together with gaffers tape from the one time I dropped it (lol), but the thing still runs great. Good battery life for a 4-5 year old ipod, no dead pixels in the screen, it's chock full of music, and it's awesome.

Then again, I will never buy anything again from Apple because I really don't like their business decisions. They make a lot of business decisions that are absolutely brilliant from the business standpoint but absolutely horrible from the customer's standpoint. Steve Jobs is a very smart man, but he's realized that he actually doesn't need to give a shit about Apple fanboys, and he's started treating them accordingly, and they still eat it up like fucking candy. No way I'm getting anywhere near that.

Plus, I'm a programmer, so most of the time I'm using KDE anyway :D
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matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 04:39:55
June 29 2010 04:38 GMT
#75
I have a Macbook because my parents bought it for me. It's nice and works well. But I would never spend my own money on one, because of how overpriced macs are. Also, I do feel like a complete tool for having one, haha. And it's annoying that I have to use dual boot to play starcraft if I want to play on iccup, or have it run well...
intrudor
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada446 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 05:26:54
June 29 2010 05:24 GMT
#76
its as retarded to be that much fucking against Apple, than it is to be a cult-following Apple fanboy.
Yeah, they're cool. Yeah they're somewhat overpriced. But thats why you gotta choose the shit you buy and the shit you dont buy. And try not to pay full retail on Apple stuff... lots of ways to do that.

you just gotta be smart;

iPod; the only Apple thing i own. 5thGen 8GB Nano. Picked it up "used for a month, like-new" on craigslist for $90. Case closed. Love the thing.

iPhone; i'd never buy one but that has more to do with the retardedly high monthly phone bills that you gotta pay. i think the actual iPhone is amazing.

iPad; not my thing, and probably not worth $500+ but my friend has one and its really really cool.. i might pick one up on the cheap in a few years.. the thing is awesome seriously..

MacBookPros; best laptops ive ever seen. tons of friends have this thing. Way too expensive tho.

iTunes; retarded. use foobar2000 instead.

iMac; LoL?
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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
June 29 2010 05:58 GMT
#77
to add to the OP, I hate how apple products try to be different, but in a super superificial and annoying way, like some people are (oh yeah, i am a rebel!)
take a look at the command key placement (different, but completely awkward, as opposed to control key)
or placing the close, minimze buttons on the left side (oh yeah! cannot be the same as boooring others)
or take a look at their retarded mouse (cannot have a scroll wheel! must do something different)
or even itunes, possibly the most heinous software i have come across
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
June 29 2010 06:02 GMT
#78
The first iPod was a revolution. The rest has only been based on good-looking design, marketing, and fashion. I hate them ever since they tried to control everything with iTunes. Everytime I have a friend coming home and wants to share files im like "wtf you paid 250$ for you player and can't drag and drop files from your hard drive to your player ?! wtf everytime you wanna watch a movie, you have to re-encode it first ?!"

And lol at the death grip on iPhone 4 !
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AyeH
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States534 Posts
June 29 2010 06:14 GMT
#79
i own a few ipods but that's the extent of my apple support. pc's are sooooooo much better than apple by a lot.
Is it in you?
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
June 29 2010 17:08 GMT
#80
I feel this is relevant

When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
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