On June 30 2010 03:43 Chairman Ray wrote: To me, Apple is like ripped jeans.
They are both overpriced for what they bring to the table, and do not adequately serve their basic functions. Ripped jeans do not serve the basic clothing functions of keeping you covered, keeping you warm, and keeping you comfortable. Apple computers have such limited customization and compatibility that it cannot run a lot of popular games and applications.
Their stylishness is more of a lack of it. Although there are a few people that wear ripped jeans because they enjoy the look, the majority of people who wear them only wear them because everyone else is wearing them. They have absolutely no sense of style or fashion whatsoever and just like to follow the crowd. Apple computers only come in one style as well. There are a few people out there who likes the Apple style the best, but for most Apple users, there are styles that they would enjoy much more if they bothered to explore different PC cases.
They are completely incapable of anything higher level. Ripped jeans cannot be worn to anything formal, they don't make you look professional, heck you can't even wear them to work on casual friday. Apple computers do not let you change most parts, fix individual parts, and you have to buy an entire new computer if you want any sort of upgrade.
That is the worst analogy of Apple I have ever heard. Ripped jeans what? Nobody bests apple in design and few are just now catching up. Ripped jeans make absolutely no sense.
On June 30 2010 03:43 Chairman Ray wrote: To me, Apple is like ripped jeans.
They are both overpriced for what they bring to the table, and do not adequately serve their basic functions. Ripped jeans do not serve the basic clothing functions of keeping you covered, keeping you warm, and keeping you comfortable. Apple computers have such limited customization and compatibility that it cannot run a lot of popular games and applications.
Their stylishness is more of a lack of it. Although there are a few people that wear ripped jeans because they enjoy the look, the majority of people who wear them only wear them because everyone else is wearing them. They have absolutely no sense of style or fashion whatsoever and just like to follow the crowd. Apple computers only come in one style as well. There are a few people out there who likes the Apple style the best, but for most Apple users, there are styles that they would enjoy much more if they bothered to explore different PC cases.
They are completely incapable of anything higher level. Ripped jeans cannot be worn to anything formal, they don't make you look professional, heck you can't even wear them to work on casual friday. Apple computers do not let you change most parts, fix individual parts, and you have to buy an entire new computer if you want any sort of upgrade.
That is the worst analogy of Apple I have ever heard. Ripped jeans what? Nobody bests apple in design and few are just now catching up. Ripped jeans make absolutely no sense.
I seriously hate apple. Their products are very condescending. Initially the Ipod was great. I could use it as a mass storage device, play music, etc. Then came itunes, then DRM, then the iphone. The final straw came with the refusal of apple to add flash onto their products. It is not a question of technology or development. It is a question of control. Apple wants a closed platform in order to control their corner of the market and make everyone dependent on their standards. Apple's goal is not to provide something new or to revolutionize and they only do it when convenient. Apple is not a software company, apple is not a hardware company, apple is not even a computer company, they are a branding and marketing company first and foremost just as google is an advertising company.
When I was looking at buying a computer I had a few choices. 1. Buy an imac. 2. Buy a custom computer.
So i looked up the different specs comparing memory, processor speed, etc. When I found an imac and the pc that were comparable and the price difference was $800. The imac was $2200 and the pc $1400. The only difference was that I thought, oh i get mac tools with the mac, but wait, I can dual boot linux. Oh well. So yes, I bought the pc and I have loved it for the last 3 years.
They're essentially tapping into the "I want no fuss, I just want things to work." segment of the marketing pool, who also want to "I wanna be cool and not have any problems with how I roll." segment as a complement. :p That's why Apple works, you pay for "seamlessness" with their closed systems and not worry too much about things like viruses.
On June 30 2010 03:43 Chairman Ray wrote: To me, Apple is like ripped jeans.
They are both overpriced for what they bring to the table, and do not adequately serve their basic functions. Ripped jeans do not serve the basic clothing functions of keeping you covered, keeping you warm, and keeping you comfortable. Apple computers have such limited customization and compatibility that it cannot run a lot of popular games and applications.
Their stylishness is more of a lack of it. Although there are a few people that wear ripped jeans because they enjoy the look, the majority of people who wear them only wear them because everyone else is wearing them. They have absolutely no sense of style or fashion whatsoever and just like to follow the crowd. Apple computers only come in one style as well. There are a few people out there who likes the Apple style the best, but for most Apple users, there are styles that they would enjoy much more if they bothered to explore different PC cases.
They are completely incapable of anything higher level. Ripped jeans cannot be worn to anything formal, they don't make you look professional, heck you can't even wear them to work on casual friday. Apple computers do not let you change most parts, fix individual parts, and you have to buy an entire new computer if you want any sort of upgrade.
That is the worst analogy of Apple I have ever heard. Ripped jeans what? Nobody bests apple in design and few are just now catching up. Ripped jeans make absolutely no sense.
there you are wrong... on so many levels. If apple was unparalleled in design I wouldn't have had to build a cooling station for my macbook pro. There would be a way to completely turn off mouse acceleration. Applications could/would quit when you close the window. If you want a well designed system try linux.
... The only reason you don't worry about viruses on macs is because apple computers never had a large enough market for people to want to make viruses for them. It's not that hackers can't do it... it's just that they think it's not worth their time. The iphone was jailbroken on the first day....
hahahaha, I know a number of people like this, but not just for the iphone. People do this for the playstation, for american made cars, for beverage choices, for clothes, for anti-walmart sentiments (The annoying "I hate walmart" people), for people who only buy "green" stuff, etc. No wonder economics is so hard, when people make decisions based on brand preference, they are hurting the economy. Every Iphone you buy could have bought a starving family food for a year compared with a better phone.
On June 30 2010 20:11 THE_DOMINATOR wrote: ... The only reason you don't worry about viruses on macs is because apple computers never had a large enough market for people to want to make viruses for them. It's not that hackers can't do it... it's just that they think it's not worth their time.
I think OSX has traditionally been better than Windows (maybe even up to Windows 7) in terms of security, but what you said here definitely has merit.
On June 30 2010 03:43 Chairman Ray wrote: To me, Apple is like ripped jeans.
They are both overpriced for what they bring to the table, and do not adequately serve their basic functions. Ripped jeans do not serve the basic clothing functions of keeping you covered, keeping you warm, and keeping you comfortable. Apple computers have such limited customization and compatibility that it cannot run a lot of popular games and applications.
Their stylishness is more of a lack of it. Although there are a few people that wear ripped jeans because they enjoy the look, the majority of people who wear them only wear them because everyone else is wearing them. They have absolutely no sense of style or fashion whatsoever and just like to follow the crowd. Apple computers only come in one style as well. There are a few people out there who likes the Apple style the best, but for most Apple users, there are styles that they would enjoy much more if they bothered to explore different PC cases.
They are completely incapable of anything higher level. Ripped jeans cannot be worn to anything formal, they don't make you look professional, heck you can't even wear them to work on casual friday. Apple computers do not let you change most parts, fix individual parts, and you have to buy an entire new computer if you want any sort of upgrade.
That is the worst analogy of Apple I have ever heard. Ripped jeans what? Nobody bests apple in design and few are just now catching up. Ripped jeans make absolutely no sense.
there you are wrong... on so many levels. If apple was unparalleled in design I wouldn't have had to build a cooling station for my macbook pro. There would be a way to completely turn off mouse acceleration. Applications could/would quit when you close the window. If you want a well designed system try linux.
... The only reason you don't worry about viruses on macs is because apple computers never had a large enough market for people to want to make viruses for them. It's not that hackers can't do it... it's just that they think it's not worth their time. The iphone was jailbroken on the first day....
I guess the virus thing applies to linux too? No one thinks it's worth a damn to hack it?
Your first paragraph is wrong on so many levels. Yeah, I can do that too.
On June 30 2010 03:43 Chairman Ray wrote: To me, Apple is like ripped jeans.
They are both overpriced for what they bring to the table, and do not adequately serve their basic functions. Ripped jeans do not serve the basic clothing functions of keeping you covered, keeping you warm, and keeping you comfortable. Apple computers have such limited customization and compatibility that it cannot run a lot of popular games and applications.
Their stylishness is more of a lack of it. Although there are a few people that wear ripped jeans because they enjoy the look, the majority of people who wear them only wear them because everyone else is wearing them. They have absolutely no sense of style or fashion whatsoever and just like to follow the crowd. Apple computers only come in one style as well. There are a few people out there who likes the Apple style the best, but for most Apple users, there are styles that they would enjoy much more if they bothered to explore different PC cases.
They are completely incapable of anything higher level. Ripped jeans cannot be worn to anything formal, they don't make you look professional, heck you can't even wear them to work on casual friday. Apple computers do not let you change most parts, fix individual parts, and you have to buy an entire new computer if you want any sort of upgrade.
That is the worst analogy of Apple I have ever heard. Ripped jeans what? Nobody bests apple in design and few are just now catching up. Ripped jeans make absolutely no sense.
there you are wrong... on so many levels. If apple was unparalleled in design I wouldn't have had to build a cooling station for my macbook pro. There would be a way to completely turn off mouse acceleration. Applications could/would quit when you close the window. If you want a well designed system try linux.
... The only reason you don't worry about viruses on macs is because apple computers never had a large enough market for people to want to make viruses for them. It's not that hackers can't do it... it's just that they think it's not worth their time. The iphone was jailbroken on the first day....
I guess the virus thing applies to linux too? No one thinks it's worth a damn to hack it?
Your first paragraph is wrong on so many levels. Yeah, I can do that too.
Nobody wants to run a virus that will hurt less than 1% of the world's computers when the people using those computers are already nerds for the most part who actually know their way around the computer.
When it comes down to it, OS X doesn't have a large enough part of the market for people to direct viruses at it, but if viruses are directed at it, OS X does not have any of the anti-virus libraries that Windows does.
On June 30 2010 20:11 THE_DOMINATOR wrote: ... The only reason you don't worry about viruses on macs is because apple computers never had a large enough market for people to want to make viruses for them. It's not that hackers can't do it... it's just that they think it's not worth their time.
I think OSX has traditionally been better than Windows (maybe even up to Windows 7) in terms of security, but what you said here definitely has merit.
7 is actually better for security right now. I think Vista probably was as well. It mostly comes down to the user anyways, but I believe Win 7 + Chrome is the hardest to crack, while OSX + Safari is the easiest (as long as you're not talking about XP anymore.)
On June 30 2010 03:43 Chairman Ray wrote: To me, Apple is like ripped jeans.
They are both overpriced for what they bring to the table, and do not adequately serve their basic functions. Ripped jeans do not serve the basic clothing functions of keeping you covered, keeping you warm, and keeping you comfortable. Apple computers have such limited customization and compatibility that it cannot run a lot of popular games and applications.
Their stylishness is more of a lack of it. Although there are a few people that wear ripped jeans because they enjoy the look, the majority of people who wear them only wear them because everyone else is wearing them. They have absolutely no sense of style or fashion whatsoever and just like to follow the crowd. Apple computers only come in one style as well. There are a few people out there who likes the Apple style the best, but for most Apple users, there are styles that they would enjoy much more if they bothered to explore different PC cases.
They are completely incapable of anything higher level. Ripped jeans cannot be worn to anything formal, they don't make you look professional, heck you can't even wear them to work on casual friday. Apple computers do not let you change most parts, fix individual parts, and you have to buy an entire new computer if you want any sort of upgrade.
That is the worst analogy of Apple I have ever heard. Ripped jeans what? Nobody bests apple in design and few are just now catching up. Ripped jeans make absolutely no sense.
there you are wrong... on so many levels. If apple was unparalleled in design I wouldn't have had to build a cooling station for my macbook pro. There would be a way to completely turn off mouse acceleration. Applications could/would quit when you close the window. If you want a well designed system try linux.
... The only reason you don't worry about viruses on macs is because apple computers never had a large enough market for people to want to make viruses for them. It's not that hackers can't do it... it's just that they think it's not worth their time. The iphone was jailbroken on the first day....
He didn't say it was perfect, he just said the form factor is at the top level of design. The heatsink case could be better, but it's still damn fine design.
They are both overpriced for what they bring to the table, and do not adequately serve their basic functions. Ripped jeans do not serve the basic clothing functions of keeping you covered, keeping you warm, and keeping you comfortable. Apple computers have such limited customization and compatibility that it cannot run a lot of popular games and applications.
Their stylishness is more of a lack of it. Although there are a few people that wear ripped jeans because they enjoy the look, the majority of people who wear them only wear them because everyone else is wearing them. They have absolutely no sense of style or fashion whatsoever and just like to follow the crowd. Apple computers only come in one style as well. There are a few people out there who likes the Apple style the best, but for most Apple users, there are styles that they would enjoy much more if they bothered to explore different PC cases.
They are completely incapable of anything higher level. Ripped jeans cannot be worn to anything formal, they don't make you look professional, heck you can't even wear them to work on casual friday. Apple computers do not let you change most parts, fix individual parts, and you have to buy an entire new computer if you want any sort of upgrade.
I don't totally disagree, but couldn't the same be said of many of the people who have posted in this thread? A few people probably know Apple products inside and out and have reasons for disliking them, but the majority are probably just like "yeah hating on apple is cool apple is gay fuck steve jobs". Its the same idea.
Personally, if I could have either a PC or a Mac for the same price, I would choose a PC. But I do think that a lot of the Mac hate in this thread is over the top.
On June 30 2010 03:43 Chairman Ray wrote: To me, Apple is like ripped jeans.
They are both overpriced for what they bring to the table, and do not adequately serve their basic functions. Ripped jeans do not serve the basic clothing functions of keeping you covered, keeping you warm, and keeping you comfortable. Apple computers have such limited customization and compatibility that it cannot run a lot of popular games and applications.
Their stylishness is more of a lack of it. Although there are a few people that wear ripped jeans because they enjoy the look, the majority of people who wear them only wear them because everyone else is wearing them. They have absolutely no sense of style or fashion whatsoever and just like to follow the crowd. Apple computers only come in one style as well. There are a few people out there who likes the Apple style the best, but for most Apple users, there are styles that they would enjoy much more if they bothered to explore different PC cases.
They are completely incapable of anything higher level. Ripped jeans cannot be worn to anything formal, they don't make you look professional, heck you can't even wear them to work on casual friday. Apple computers do not let you change most parts, fix individual parts, and you have to buy an entire new computer if you want any sort of upgrade.
That is the worst analogy of Apple I have ever heard. Ripped jeans what? Nobody bests apple in design and few are just now catching up. Ripped jeans make absolutely no sense.
there you are wrong... on so many levels. If apple was unparalleled in design I wouldn't have had to build a cooling station for my macbook pro. There would be a way to completely turn off mouse acceleration. Applications could/would quit when you close the window. If you want a well designed system try linux.
... The only reason you don't worry about viruses on macs is because apple computers never had a large enough market for people to want to make viruses for them. It's not that hackers can't do it... it's just that they think it's not worth their time. The iphone was jailbroken on the first day....
He didn't say it was perfect, he just said the form factor is at the top level of design. The heatsink case could be better, but it's still damn fine design.
Actually it's a terrible design.
Heatsink on lap = bad Only Mini DisplayPort = bad Only 2 USB 2.0 = bad USB ports extremely close = bad
there are too many things Apple got wrong with that design.
On June 30 2010 18:15 Ciryandor wrote: They're essentially tapping into the "I want no fuss, I just want things to work." segment of the marketing pool, who also want to "I wanna be cool and not have any problems with how I roll." segment as a complement. :p That's why Apple works, you pay for "seamlessness" with their closed systems and not worry too much about things like viruses.
Granted you're probably talking about Macs and not necessarily iPods, and maybe they've significantly improved iTunes over the last few years, but trying to use iTunes years ago when I had an iPod was absolutely rage inducing. It was anything but "no fuss."
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