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United States889 Posts
A long time back, when I was like 5, my family had a computer. It had like 32 mb of RAM, and an equally depressing processor. It was also an Apple. I loved that computer. I have awesome memories of games like Crystal Crazy, the ORIGINAL Prince of Persia and Prince of Persia 2, Shadow & Flame, as well as the Staff of Ra and other great games.
As I look at what Apple became as I grew up, indifference changed to dislike, to what it is now. Apple became glitzy, superficial, and obnoxiously unhelpful. Ever try calling Apple tech support? It's worse than HP's, and I have routinely spent ~1 hour on with HP tech support just to get them to repair the power structure on a laptop (and I had to diagnose the problem for them!).
Here are 5 ways Apple is like everything I hate in people:
1. Apple products are shiny and glitzy rather than reliable. Apple computers are prone to hardware problems. iTunes is essentially malware. The iPad is just a big iPhone. Yet, they are used, because, as previously mentioned, they're shiny and glitzy.
2. Closely related to #1, Apple products are superficial, having practically no substance behind them whatsoever. The iPad is pathetic as a computer. iPods and iPhones have lamentable battery life and malleability. Apple computers looks sleek and cool but dollar for dollar compared with Dells, HPs, etc., are completely terrible computers.
3. Apples are trendy. College students love them because they think Apples are cool, and look how awesome it is that the little icon bounces up and down on the dock bar. Everyone flocks to buy iPhones and iPads, diregarding the fact that aside from the 'coolness factor' there's no reason to get one.
4. Apple is exceedingly unhelpful. I'll not elaborate too much on this, as you need to experience it for yourself, but every experience of myself and my acquaintances has produced the same unhelpfulness, long waits, and disinterest in your business.
5. You can't fix it yourself. This is only tangential to people, and stretch the metaphor if you will, but it is more important that I complain about Apple steadfastly refusing to make their machines accessible. There are only a few models, a very few, that even put a backplate for replacing the RAM. They'd prefer to solder everything into the mobo so if something even simple goes wrong you have to replace the whole damn machine and they make more money. I could literally go on for hours about this, but I'll spare you.
 
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The things you hate about Apples are probably shared by everyone else who hates Apples, but in reality, Apple has a hardcore fan base (I would argue more hardcore than the TL.net community is towards Starcraft) which is willing to consistently dish out hundreds of dollars to own that latest Apple product, regardless of how overpriced, inconsistent, or wasteful it is/we feel it is.
edit: Just look at the iPad. Prior to its release, it seemed that even Apple fan boys felt it was a waste of money and was missing so many key features - just an "oversized Apple touch". When it eventually was released though, that thing sold like hotcakes and racked up so many sales regardless.
For the record, I completely agree with all your points.
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I agree, I never have and never will buy any of their computers, iPhones, iPods or anything, superior and cheaper alternatives are available for everything.
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Canada9720 Posts
most of what you wrote is nonsense, but the self-service complaint is a valid one. however, it's the price you pay for apple's excellent design
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You state the obvious. Nothing can beat an home made computer :p
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It's more about being self esteem and being cool than it is about being professional
And what's more professional than being cool?
That said, as a college guy, I think Apples are popular because they're simpler to use. College students don't want a hassle with their computer and would prefer to keep it as simple as possible. Therefore the Apple "qualities" of reliability (perhaps a myth), style and ubiquitousness make it much easier to whip out the plastic and get one than it is to spend hours deliberating among the many laptop makers out there, with all of their models and specifications.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
i only have 1st generation nano lolollol it has served me well since whnever it was released till now and is still going strong although battery life is a bit lower now haha
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Zurich15366 Posts
Hi, let me make up a couple of stats so I can justify my envy fueled Apple hatred.
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completely disagree. what a stupid blog. most of what you state is not true in any way shape or form.
another apple hate post from teamliquid. it's despicable.
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I totally agree
Everyone knows that as far as computers that are cool, the hierarchy is Kubuntu > Windows > Apple.
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Agreed. I'm glad to see other people that don't fall for apple's trickery. However, I must escape before this blog becomes consumed in flames.
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8751 Posts
What's wrong with the iPhone? Not sure what shitty students you know but every student I know who has an iPhone has made good use of it. I've never seen any of them try to appear cool for having an iPhone. I've also never seen an iPhone's battery fail to last through the day. But if it did fail to last through the day, it must have been getting a damn lot of use, like all day non-stop use, and so there goes any argument that it's not useful and is only there for the coolness factor.
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United States889 Posts
On June 28 2010 22:58 zatic wrote:
Hi, let me make up a couple of stats so I can justify my envy fueled Apple hatred.
Envy don't enter into it.
I don't even hate Apple. I have an iPod, and it's actually quite a nice device. I would just never buy an Apple computer or phone, because they cost a ridiculous amount of money compared to Dells or HPs (or Droids) to do the same thing.
I also thought it was self evident that they were trendy and glitzy. It's also empirically verifiable that their service is not good and that they don't let you upgrade their computers.
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On June 28 2010 22:58 Eiserne wrote:
completely disagree. what a stupid blog. most of what you state is not true in any way shape or form.
another apple hate post from teamliquid. it's despicable.
Aside from #2, they are all true.
As for #2, I think MBPs are actually quite good, though I don't own one, I wouldn't mind paying $1500 (or something close I hope) for one. The only laptops that are close to MBP in terms of reliability and specs are probably ThinkPads (which I use and love), and they aren't cheap either. MBPs are actually very good computers especially for software developers (and I am part of this group) and people who edit videos (or so I hear). I don't understand why regular college kids who don't fall into these two categories would want one though... a 500$ Dell would serve the same purpose as an MBP for most people.
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But yes, MBP has its fair share of problems covered by OP; still good build though (case overheating is a bitch, but I don't use it on my lap that often, if ever).
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I completely agree with 3. Apple started marketing their products in a way that gave them the "cool" factor. Pure Genius.
Without doing this, they may have gone out of business.
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On June 28 2010 23:07 Neo27 wrote:
I completely agree with 3. Apple started marketing their products in a way that gave them the "cool" factor. Pure Genius.
Without doing this, they may have gone out of business.
Bingo. That's exactly what gave Apple its life. That's also what Microsoft is trying to be (Hi Bing commercials), but they are failing miserably at it.
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I enjoy my iPhone a lot. I would say jailbreaking is almost necessary. But it's still way near the top of best smartphone list. The ui is so smooth and easy to use. If you aren't willing to learn iTunes then yes I can see that argument, but if you do use all the features with auto updating and shopping for your digital purchases it's fantastic. The integration works soooo well. Going from my 3G to my 4, was so simple. Plugged the 4 in typed in my ATT info in two boxes and a few minutes later the backup for my 3G was imported to my 4.
Apple was very helpful without giving me the runaround to replace my phone when brought to an Apple store. Looked at it. Confirmed the flaw (headphone jack went bad at my fault  ) and replaced the whole phone right there after asking if I had a backup of it at home. Was outta there within 15 mins after showing up on time.
Not being able to repair it yourself is a valid concern. But there are 3rd party kits to replace the glass and screens for much lower than the cost of a new one.
I'll conclude by saying that iPhone is the only product I've owned from Apple. But so far, if I wasn't grown up on Microsoft based PCs I wouldn't hesitate to get a mac.
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United States889 Posts
On June 28 2010 23:01 Liquid`NonY wrote:
What's wrong with the iPhone? Not sure what shitty students you know but every student I know who has an iPhone has made good use of it. I've never seen any of them try to appear cool for having an iPhone. I've also never seen an iPhone's battery fail to last through the day. But if it did fail to last through the day, it must have been getting a damn lot of use, like all day non-stop use, and so there goes any argument that it's not useful and is only there for the coolness factor.
When they released the OS, many iPhones wouldn't download it. I know somebody whose iPhone was bricked by the new OS. I also don't like the fact that Apple locks their software to third party programs, which is their perrogative of course, but they void the warranty if you exercise fair use and unlock it to third party programs (i.e jailbreaking as it is known).
No battery removal is an issue. Just like the upgrade issues with the computers, they require you to send (I actually don't know about the newest iPhone but I suspect that it's the same) in the phone to have them replace the battery. It's a battery replacement...it's simple and cheap for everyone else, why not for Apple too?
Those are a few things that are undesirable about the iPhone. It was an innovation, but I don't understand why Apple can't play nice like everyone else, make their upgrading system usable and not detrimental, let you exercise fair use (same thing with their unlocking verification system with iTunes purchases), and let you replace the battery yourself and not charge you an arm and a leg for simple things. And maybe I'm old fashioned, but if your phone battery doesn't get you at least a few days, isn't that a bad thing to begin with? My phone battery gets me a week, and I use it frequently.
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