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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5195 Posts
November 06 2025 17:21 GMT
#1
Sometimes I wonder how many (natural) processes, or at least things humans have figured out that we can ascribe as a process, can be mapped onto mankind as a holistic property. Something like how many inndividuals who have structured themselves into a dense network of communication, infrastructure and mobility, akin to a cell, and then when zooming out, the region as a tissue or organ and even larger, the complete multicellular organism.
Or how our climate works is basically just a very complex chemical reaction, with different substates in time and place, but that doesn't mean it abides by different rules, it just might have a bigger capacity to resist change. But when change does happen, due to a change in equilibrium and the system can't buffer any longer, the change will be quick - in terms of the size of the system - and unstoppable.
I think one of the processes we're running into over and over is saturation and how we're unable to understand it yet on a metaphysical level. Either it's people not understanding supply-demand, or it's assuming they're too big to be denied, or they think they can force supply down people's throats and the demand will (begrudgingly) come sooner or later.
Are companies supposed to grow indefinitely? This is something I don't understand. What's wrong with being steady state and tagging along inflation?
What's the end goal of capitalism? Does it envision a free market where the price of goods have raced to the bottom so everyone can share in the pie? Or is this constant push towards becoming bigger and bigger something unsustainable? Microsoft-Acitivison-Blizzard, like what is that even? How many companies has Alphabet under its umbrella by now. Maybe I don't understand the larger vision. Maybe it's very simple (I do because I can), but they are so far beyond what I can comprehend that I can't do anything else than hope it'll turn out okay in the long run (it won't).
I think the world would've benefited by setting some rules for the game of capitalism in advance. Like you don't more personal wealth than making it comfortable for you and 2 generations down the line for example. Or no more expanding/acquiring when your market cap exceeds "insert random number here based on global/regional metrics".
Democracy is being stretched to its limits (and snapping at some places) due to these economic forces being so dominant. But there's also other factors aiding this destruction. I truly think we've reached our limit as to how far we are willing to compromise in our ideology. Call it being stubborn, or call it inevitable break up, that's to be decided. All I know is that it feels like we're in some kind of denial phase.

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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17707 Posts
November 19 2025 14:31 GMT
#2
On November 07 2025 02:21 Uldridge wrote:
What's the end goal of capitalism?

it is up to the people running the nation to insure the system put in place maximizes the quality of life of its citizens. We need pro free market politicians who are willing to put the fear of God into the leaders of big business so they behave in an ethical manner.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1548 Posts
November 24 2025 17:14 GMT
#3
Cancer. We are basically monkeys setting shit on fire everywhere without a worry in the world until it inevitably hits us personally. Our critical thinking ability is pretty limited in it's capacity to personally and societally steer us away from instincts and impulses. We are just smart enough to know better and evil enough to do worse. To be fair transcending nature is pretty difficult task (if possible at all). Keep trying until it works!
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12128 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-11-29 22:49:15
November 29 2025 22:48 GMT
#4
I think capitalism could work if you limited company size to a maximum of 5k employees or something like that. Meaning consolidation isn't as worthwhile. You don't get full economy of scale but also don't get massive company influence on politics.

The basic premise of the system is fine. You just need to put in boundaries so the optimization challenge benefits us instead of going cancerous.
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