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nimdil
Poland3746 Posts
On March 16 2014 01:04 LongShot27 wrote: I doubt it, the headphones are in your ears, the generators may interfere but I doubt it would be noticable Oh come one - white noise generator would reduce comfort of playing so much! | ||
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Ludwigvan
Germany2362 Posts
On March 16 2014 00:56 NovemberstOrm wrote: Putting them in other rooms may be the only way. Don't they use that at IEM or just play loud music in the headphones? dunno, if a tournament organizer that has this kind of money distribution would put the players in a other room. especially, because this location they have is so amazingly awesome. Oh well, I do not have an answer. | ||
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dream-_-
United States1857 Posts
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Sanhadrian
Poland33 Posts
A shame Naniwa is leaving, though. I can empathize with him, seeing as I also am prone to self-sabotage. It's just a personality thing. | ||
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Heouf
Netherlands787 Posts
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NoobSkills
United States1591 Posts
On March 16 2014 05:53 Heouf wrote: Well i couldnt hear anything. So polt just got lucky with scouting. First minute of game. Intense cheering/movement of crowd/ vibration of booth all signals something is up. If someone gets excited at minute 20 nobody knows what exactly that means, but that early in the game it is only one thing. Nobody cheers if someone goes 3 nexus lol. Honestly though Naniwa is an asshat. If you're not prepared/don't want to play, then don't show up. That is less disgraceful than blaming your loss on external factors. What was he really going to do proxy gate to 1st place? This isn't how you "fight" for anything. | ||
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Ravomat
Germany422 Posts
On March 16 2014 03:43 maartendq wrote: Without viewers, there isn't any progaming, assuming that progaming means making a living off of playing competitive video games. Hence if progamers don't entertain, people don't watch. Also, being a human being, Naniwa is also expected to adhere to a set of societal norms. One of those is that acting the way he does is not acceptable for a 24-year-old. The competition should be considered the main entertaining factor in a tournament, not the players nor the games. This doesn't mean that they shouldn't or couldn't be entertaining. Competitors don't owe the viewer anything. They are there to win even if their play is absolutely boring and predictable. If someone thought his best chance to win a tournament was to 11/11 or 5rax reaper every game he'd do it and there would be nothing you could do about it. Making the game entertaining is not the player's job. Without viewers there would still be the game with its competing players who would invest a lot of time in it without being paid. Being paid is certainly a benefit for the players but not a necessity though if they are they should behave decently I'll give you that. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
from what i hear, naniwa has used crowd's noise in the past (returning to missed proxy after crowd roaring). im certain its happened before to other players in the history of booths, players have heard crowd but not make out what it means, some players dont pay attention to it because it can mean anything. players complain and looked into. whatever the case, its sort of unavoidable and its been dealt with for a decade, a fucking more than a decade but since naniwa cried about it, its an issue all of a sudden. the crowd noise in relation to polt's scout was and is a non-issue, but naniwa just cried/rage about it and left the game (no different than random rage quit on ladder due to lag, imba, cat, dog, whatever). some of you guys are giving too much benefit of doubt. | ||
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CutTheEnemy
Canada373 Posts
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Ravomat
Germany422 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:07 jinorazi wrote: a non-issue has become the talkative topic because naniwa used it as an excuse... ... the crowd noise in relation to polt's scout was and is a non-issue, but naniwa just cried/rage about it and left the game (no different than random rage quit on ladder due to lag, imba, cat, dog, whatever). some of you guys are giving too much benefit of doubt. Naniwa and soundproofing should be 2 separate discussions not a combined one because people get emotional about Naniwa and dismiss anything he says. He said he doesn't have any motivation and didn't train at all which was obvious after watching his WCS matches so any discussion about him is entirely pointless unless you feel disrespected because he robbed you of a best of 5 and doesn't give a shit about anyone. In that case you should get a tissue and cry a little. Or call your mom to comfort you if you are really pissed about it. The soundproofing thing came up yet again in GSL recently so that should be looked into. | ||
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:25 Ravomat wrote: Naniwa and soundproofing should be 2 separate discussions not a combined one because people get emotional about Naniwa and dismiss anything he says. He said he doesn't have any motivation and didn't train at all which was obvious after watching his WCS matches so any discussion about him is entirely pointless unless you feel disrespected because he robbed you of a best of 5 and doesn't give a shit about anyone. In that case you should get a tissue and cry a little. Or call your mom to comfort you if you are really pissed about it. The soundproofing thing came up yet again in GSL recently so that should be looked into. i like how you edited out the part where i said "unavoidable and dealt with for a decade" and say it like i didnt then say it, with a touch of personal insult. classy. rofl | ||
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pms
Poland611 Posts
On March 15 2014 20:28 Iduakil wrote: Tat ta!!! NANIWA!!! We wont miss you - you pice of lazy, childish, unprofessional douchebag!!! This community is a community of douchebags. Unfortunately, I'm not surprised, given that Stephano dares judging on his Twitter another player as "pure evil" and asks his fans for hatred toward that player. I've never heard such a thing in my life from a respected "celebrity". Asking publicly for hatred toward another person?! This is how you want your community leaders to speak? I'm not surprised that people here are full of hatred after hearing and propagating comments such as Stephano's comment. Unfortunately, such people make this community disgraceful. This community is in fact disgusting because of how aggressive it became. I start to wonder why do I even follow it. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On March 16 2014 07:33 pms wrote: This community is a community of douchebags. Unfortunately, I'm not surprised, given that Stephano dares judging on his Twitter another player as "pure evil" and asks his fans for hatred toward that player. I've never heard such a thing in my life from a respected "celebrity". Asking publicly for hatred toward another person?! This is how you want your community leaders to speak? I'm not surprised that people here are full of hatred after hearing and propagating comments such as Stephano's comment. Unfortunately, such people make this community disgraceful. This community is in fact disgusting because of how aggressive it became. I start to wonder why do I even follow it. Haha Stephano's thing was a joke he is a huge troll. And with the things Naniwa has said about fellow players I don't see why you are complaining. But by all means continue to point out the flaws in other players and ignore Naniwa's. | ||
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pms
Poland611 Posts
On March 16 2014 07:37 Darkhorse wrote: Haha Stephano's thing was a joke he is a huge troll. And with the things Naniwa has said about fellow players I don't see why you are complaining. But by all means continue to point out the flaws in other players and ignore Naniwa's. This sounds like a joke to you? I hope people finally understand why Naniwa is pure evil and just a massive shit and will share my hatred for him from now on. Right, just a joke, and everybody of 300 people who re-tweeted it know it. | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
Adios, Naniwa. I wish I could say you'll be missed. | ||
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blinken
Canada368 Posts
On March 16 2014 08:33 IPA wrote: Don't let the door hit you on the way out. For all his skill, he continuously shows himself to have the emotional maturity of a child. He's too fragile and at this point, his antics are frankly annoying. It seems to me the people complaining about his antics are the ones who are emotionally immature. Why do a bunch of people care so much about the behavior of someone they don't even know? The attitudes around this scene in relation to players is very strange. We don't own them, and they don't owe us anything. Our viewership provides their current careers, and for some reason this makes people feel they have power over the progamers. It's batshit crazy to me. We received countless hours of entertainment from Naniwa, and he was well paid. Quid pro quo as far as I'm concerned. Naniwa was always a favorite player of mine. He probably worked harder than any foreigner, and reaped the benefits. He was very passionate about his own play and rightly so. Do I care he walked off mid series? Not at all. He's finished and that's how he decided to exit. His choice. Thanks for the countless epic series Naniwa. Best foreigner that SC2 will probably ever know. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On March 16 2014 08:11 pms wrote: This sounds like a joke to you? Right, just a joke, and everybody of 300 people who re-tweeted it know it. Address the rest of my post please. Like how Naniwa said he hopes Vortix's family gets cancer or some shit. Really puts calling someone "pure evil" into perspective. | ||
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pms
Poland611 Posts
On March 16 2014 08:51 Darkhorse wrote: Address the rest of my post please. Like how Naniwa said he hopes Vortix's family gets cancer or some shit. Really puts calling someone "pure evil" into perspective. I'm not defending Naniwa, just attacking Stephano and other "douchebags" of this community. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On March 16 2014 08:48 blinken wrote: It seems to me the people complaining about his antics are the ones who are emotionally immature. Why do a bunch of people care so much about the behavior of someone they don't even know? Because he represents a game that they like to potential new viewers, sponsors, etc. Also people get upset when someone they are rooting for gives zero effort. The attitudes around this scene in relation to players is very strange. We don't own them, and they don't owe us anything. Our viewership provides their current careers, and for some reason this makes people feel they have power over the progamers. It's batshit crazy to me. We received countless hours of entertainment from Naniwa, and he was well paid. Quid pro quo as far as I'm concerned. If you're going to spend your time and potentially money to watch Starcraft, you kind of want to see some Starcraft. Professional players should deliver that when they are paid to do so. It would have been extremely easy for him to half ass his way through the rest of that series but instead he just decided to quit. Naniwa was always a favorite player of mine. He probably worked harder than any foreigner, and reaped the benefits. He was very passionate about his own play and rightly so. Do I care he walked off mid series? Not at all. He's finished and that's how he decided to exit. His choice. Thanks for the countless epic series Naniwa. Best foreigner that SC2 will probably ever know. It was in fact his choice to walk out like that. But as many selfish people do he didn't take into account how that would affect the viewers, and more importantly, IEM. First off IEM had to spend money to fly Naniwa out and pay for his hotel for him to put in this horrible performance. Secondly, Naniwa delayed the tournament and took up main stage time (which later became important as a series had to be pushed to the following day). Third, fans who had tuned in to see Naniwa play and had potentially cancelled plans just to see him (I have done this for certain players) cancelled their plans for nothing. So call me emotionally immature if you want but I think Naniwa's actions were disrespectful to the tournament and the viewers. | ||
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