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United States8476 Posts
On November 30 2012 01:32 ineversmile wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 07:42 monk. wrote:On November 29 2012 04:51 Channel Pressure wrote:Any plans for another matchup writeup in the future? Im serious about the donation, does TL have a way to donate to TL? I know you guys didn't do it for that but. . Well tis the season I guess . Tbh, I would accept donations if we actually had expenses when making the guide. But there's honestly nothing significant I can think of and I don't want to take money from people if it's not directly going to help with the upkeep and maintenance of this guide or to help with the writing of future guides. If anyone has any ideas of ways money could actually go to the guide, I'd be up for that. In other news, thanks for everyone who responded to me, offering to volunteer for future updates/guides. I now have a team of at least 10 additional people who offered to do busy work. And even though there are no concrete plans for a future guide, there will probably be future guides. I don't want to get anyone's hopes up, but I'm currently trying to recruit a team of guide-writers from other races. Hopefully, one day, we can get all 9 match-ups. Have you considered that your time is worth an amount of money? How many hours were spent putting this together? Guess
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Are you f***ing kidding me??? OMG so much content. CRAZY. Even crazier is that I think I will read it all
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On November 28 2012 20:02 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 19:59 Joneleth wrote:On November 28 2012 19:57 Teoita wrote: Do you have any vods of pro games with that build? No I dont have any on the top of my head, and Im not keen on spending more time on the subject, just wanted to inform about it. But hey take it or leave it, I'll be more than happy to kill unsuspecting protoss who imagine I wont be aggressive. Well the standard we set for the guide was to only include statements that can be backed by a relevant Vod or replay, so all we could do at this point is slightly reword that part. We'll try to keep the guide updated for HotS afaik, but it will be a while until the game stabilizes so there will be a period in which it won't be too relevant.
First game of Stephano vs Hero in IPL 5
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Italy12246 Posts
That was absolutely not comparable to a roach max or any other kind of meaingful, scary aggression, it's just one round of injects in lings...
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On November 30 2012 06:24 Teoita wrote: That was absolutely not comparable to a roach max or any other kind of meaingful, scary aggression, it's just one round of injects in lings...
Stephano vs Hero game 2 IPL5, 30 lings done at 8:30 mark, Hero never expanded but attacked so they were used defensively but they more than had aggressive potentiel.
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On November 30 2012 06:24 Teoita wrote: That was absolutely not comparable to a roach max or any other kind of meaingful, scary aggression, it's just one round of injects in lings...
Stephano vs Hero game 3 IPL 5, 20-40 lings done at 8:20-8:30 WITH speed done, dont tell me that has no aggressive potentiel if the protoss is expanding.
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This is incredible and awesome. And will probably remain in SC2 history .
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Italy12246 Posts
On November 30 2012 06:58 Joneleth wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 06:24 Teoita wrote: That was absolutely not comparable to a roach max or any other kind of meaingful, scary aggression, it's just one round of injects in lings... Stephano vs Hero game 3 IPL 5, 20-40 lings done at 8:20-8:30 WITH speed done, dont tell me that has no aggressive potentiel if the protoss is expanding.
That was ling aggression off speed before lair. It can be done off of any 3base zerg opening pretty much.
You are just confusing things. Stephano's pvz early/midgame lately is a combination of that poke and double evo chamber, but the two aren't necessarily linked.
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On November 30 2012 07:19 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 06:58 Joneleth wrote:On November 30 2012 06:24 Teoita wrote: That was absolutely not comparable to a roach max or any other kind of meaingful, scary aggression, it's just one round of injects in lings... Stephano vs Hero game 3 IPL 5, 20-40 lings done at 8:20-8:30 WITH speed done, dont tell me that has no aggressive potentiel if the protoss is expanding. That was ling aggression off speed before lair. It can be done off of any 3base zerg opening pretty much. You are just confusing things. Stephano's pvz early/midgame lately is a combination of that poke and double evo chamber, but the two aren't necessarily linked.
It *can* be done with any BO but if isnt done with any BO, typical a zerg will get lair before ling speed if his going roach heavy to get roach speed faster, and its infinitely more likely that it happens if the zerg is going double evo. If Hero had expanded then stephano would have followed those lings up with alot more units to punish the 3rd.
But I can see this is going nowhere, for some reason you do not think 30 speed lings in the toss 3rd at a time when toss usually has 5-6 units out is noteworthy aggression but more of a "poke"
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On November 30 2012 02:09 monk. wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 01:32 ineversmile wrote:On November 29 2012 07:42 monk. wrote:On November 29 2012 04:51 Channel Pressure wrote:Any plans for another matchup writeup in the future? Im serious about the donation, does TL have a way to donate to TL? I know you guys didn't do it for that but. . Well tis the season I guess . Tbh, I would accept donations if we actually had expenses when making the guide. But there's honestly nothing significant I can think of and I don't want to take money from people if it's not directly going to help with the upkeep and maintenance of this guide or to help with the writing of future guides. If anyone has any ideas of ways money could actually go to the guide, I'd be up for that. In other news, thanks for everyone who responded to me, offering to volunteer for future updates/guides. I now have a team of at least 10 additional people who offered to do busy work. And even though there are no concrete plans for a future guide, there will probably be future guides. I don't want to get anyone's hopes up, but I'm currently trying to recruit a team of guide-writers from other races. Hopefully, one day, we can get all 9 match-ups. Have you considered that your time is worth an amount of money? How many hours were spent putting this together? Guess
It was more of a rhetorical question. This project clearly took a lot of work. Even though it was something for the community, it took a lot of damn effort. Out of respect for you and the others who helped put this together, I think it would be reasonable if you took donations to a relatively low limit and just budgeted in a small hourly wage for your time. Even the non-corrupt non-profit organizations still pay their workers; a man has to eat.
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Once Heart of the Swarm is released, and the game starts to settle; are there any plans to update it to be usable in Heart of the Swarm? Or will this stay a WoL PvZ guide?
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United States8476 Posts
On November 30 2012 11:41 ineversmile wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 02:09 monk. wrote:On November 30 2012 01:32 ineversmile wrote:On November 29 2012 07:42 monk. wrote:On November 29 2012 04:51 Channel Pressure wrote:Any plans for another matchup writeup in the future? Im serious about the donation, does TL have a way to donate to TL? I know you guys didn't do it for that but. . Well tis the season I guess . Tbh, I would accept donations if we actually had expenses when making the guide. But there's honestly nothing significant I can think of and I don't want to take money from people if it's not directly going to help with the upkeep and maintenance of this guide or to help with the writing of future guides. If anyone has any ideas of ways money could actually go to the guide, I'd be up for that. In other news, thanks for everyone who responded to me, offering to volunteer for future updates/guides. I now have a team of at least 10 additional people who offered to do busy work. And even though there are no concrete plans for a future guide, there will probably be future guides. I don't want to get anyone's hopes up, but I'm currently trying to recruit a team of guide-writers from other races. Hopefully, one day, we can get all 9 match-ups. Have you considered that your time is worth an amount of money? How many hours were spent putting this together? Guess It was more of a rhetorical question. This project clearly took a lot of work. Even though it was something for the community, it took a lot of damn effort. Out of respect for you and the others who helped put this together, I think it would be reasonable if you took donations to a relatively low limit and just budgeted in a small hourly wage for your time. Even the non-corrupt non-profit organizations still pay their workers; a man has to eat. Yea, but with donations, I doubt we'll even break $1/hour of work.
On December 02 2012 10:39 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote: Once Heart of the Swarm is released, and the game starts to settle; are there any plans to update it to be usable in Heart of the Swarm? Or will this stay a WoL PvZ guide? Yes. No.
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On December 02 2012 10:39 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote: Once Heart of the Swarm is released, and the game starts to settle; are there any plans to update it to be usable in Heart of the Swarm? Or will this stay a WoL PvZ guide?
I imagine they would create a new one all together so that people who stay playing WoL for whatever reason can read this one and since their different games as well.
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Canada13378 Posts
On December 02 2012 10:39 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote: Once Heart of the Swarm is released, and the game starts to settle; are there any plans to update it to be usable in Heart of the Swarm? Or will this stay a WoL PvZ guide?
Monk is assembling a number of people to work on the strat forum in general. I believe the plans are currently to hold off on MAJOR enormous projects like this one until well after HotS release. The amount of time it took to do this guide and the amount of time before HotS completely changes everything don't seem too congruent.
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This is a extremely well made Guide.
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I now have no excuse for losing against zerg, even infestors because no one in gold/plat ever uses them
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On December 03 2012 00:12 probeater wrote: I now have no excuse for losing against zerg, even infestors because no one in gold/plat ever uses them This is a crazy thought to me. They really don't use their best unit?
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Italy12246 Posts
Sometimes master's can't either don't worry. Chargelots smash into them and they go WTFISTHISSHITOMGOMGOMG,
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most golds have no idea infestors exist, while plats usually only get 3-4 if any, plus they bring them SO close to my army to fungal that they just die instantly :D
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