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There are no plans for a guide to other match-ups at this time. This guide was an entirely organic effort from TL community members of similar interests.
FoxShine
Profile Joined January 2012
United States156 Posts
December 04 2012 01:42 GMT
#621
This is an amazingly well done guide. The information needed to go into this exists for all the other match ups, but it is important to note that HoTS is coming out. I think that information should be gathered and sorted from the beta to prepare for the creation of this after release of HotS. This should be a model for future projects; with particular emphasis on graphics and the way it is outlined.

/Cheers
We do what we must, because we can
probeater
Profile Joined October 2012
124 Posts
December 04 2012 12:40 GMT
#622
On December 04 2012 10:42 FoxShine wrote:
This is an amazingly well done guide. The information needed to go into this exists for all the other match ups, but it is important to note that HoTS is coming out. I think that information should be gathered and sorted from the beta to prepare for the creation of this after release of HotS. This should be a model for future projects; with particular emphasis on graphics and the way it is outlined.

/Cheers

well i don't think too much information should be gathered during the beta because the game will always be changing..wait until thegame settles down then start to gather a lot of info on new builds, strats etc.
I have a Dark Templar Statue at home.
ZikO
Profile Joined April 2006
United Kingdom27 Posts
December 05 2012 14:44 GMT
#623
Hi,
This article is huge and not everyone may want to read it in one go. If any of you travel frequently and uses Kindle (lol), this might help. I converted PDF to MOBI that is used by Kindle (not Fire HD). Unfortunately, pictures are poorly displayed and broken. However, the text remains clear and almost everything is intact.

This is the link to the file
http://zebik.republika.pl/PvZ Guide.zip

PS> THe zip file contains Cover, MOBI file (the one), and OTF file that is I believe used by Calibre to maintain meta info. If this file violates copyrights (I hope not, I gave all possible credits) I will remove the link from this forum. If not, I hope i can help others. If think the MOBI file has to uploaded to the device and it will be ready to use.
vudulp
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil45 Posts
December 05 2012 21:43 GMT
#624
I'd like to know, from the writers, are translations being allowed?

great job! keep up the good work.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 21:47:34
December 05 2012 21:47 GMT
#625
On December 05 2012 23:44 ZikO wrote:
Hi,
This article is huge and not everyone may want to read it in one go. If any of you travel frequently and uses Kindle (lol), this might help. I converted PDF to MOBI that is used by Kindle (not Fire HD). Unfortunately, pictures are poorly displayed and broken. However, the text remains clear and almost everything is intact.

This is the link to the file
http://zebik.republika.pl/PvZ Guide.zip

PS> THe zip file contains Cover, MOBI file (the one), and OTF file that is I believe used by Calibre to maintain meta info. If this file violates copyrights (I hope not, I gave all possible credits) I will remove the link from this forum. If not, I hope i can help others. If think the MOBI file has to uploaded to the device and it will be ready to use.

thanks!

On December 06 2012 06:43 vudulp wrote:
I'd like to know, from the writers, are translations being allowed?

great job! keep up the good work.

Contact me about this.
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FlyingBeer
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States262 Posts
December 11 2012 23:38 GMT
#626
This is a really great guide. I just have one comment. A lot of gate first builds include an early forge, but many don't. If you have it, great, but building a forge re-actively to scouting early all-ins is an unnecessary departure from the build order. In the case of an in-base hatchery, it's also a great way to lose. If you don't have a forge, defend pressure with gateway units. 90 seconds of waiting for the forge and then cannons to finish plus 450 minerals down the drain is a huge waste for an attack that may not even be coming.
Malhavoc
Profile Joined October 2010
Italy308 Posts
December 12 2012 22:14 GMT
#627
So awesome that you've been featured by Blizzard itself! :D

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/6768180/The_Ultimate_Guide_to_PvZ-12_12_2012
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
December 12 2012 22:21 GMT
#628
Ya we already knew they'd do that
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Krynhildr
Profile Joined November 2012
Sweden1 Post
December 13 2012 14:35 GMT
#629
I hope there will be a guide for the other matchups
mbmonk
Profile Joined April 2009
United States16 Posts
December 15 2012 19:35 GMT
#630
I just wanted to thank all the participants in this project.
Rich people ask how much. Poor people ask how much a month.
nunFalco
Profile Joined October 2011
Mexico3 Posts
December 16 2012 02:43 GMT
#631
Oh my! I'm too greatfully
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
December 16 2012 07:34 GMT
#632
This beats the hell out of those "strategy" guides they try to sell you in gaming shops. Great guide!
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
December 17 2012 06:06 GMT
#633
On December 16 2012 16:34 Onlinejaguar wrote:
This beats the hell out of those "strategy" guides they try to sell you in gaming shops. Great guide!

Yeah no kidding
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
December 17 2012 07:50 GMT
#634
Lol this guide is being translated into Chinese O.O First part can be found over here for those interested haha http://s.163.com/12/1217/15/8IUFJPA700314D01.html

That's like such a crazy thing to do haha. This is soooooooooooooooooo long!!
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
December 17 2012 07:52 GMT
#635
I hear Spanish and French versions are coming along too. =P
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cwalk
Profile Joined May 2012
United States26 Posts
December 18 2012 22:03 GMT
#636
Amazing guide. Currently trying to learn Hero's stargate into robo into 4gate build. However I'm having trouble hitting the benchmarks since it seems like I'm just not getting enough minerals in the early game, and therefor all my buildings are late, with the stargate being made 30 seconds later than what the benchmark is. Not sure if it's because I'm not mineral stacking well enough, or if Hero possesses ancient Korean magic.
For Aiur!
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
December 18 2012 22:09 GMT
#637
When that happens it's simply better probe production most of the time.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
cwalk
Profile Joined May 2012
United States26 Posts
December 18 2012 22:36 GMT
#638
That's definitely a factor later on, since I'm only in plat, but even in the first few minutes, where there's not much for me to mess up, he's able to get his forge about 15 seconds faster, and his gateway 30 seconds faster, which adds up over time.
For Aiur!
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 23:31:10
December 18 2012 23:30 GMT
#639
On December 19 2012 07:36 cwalk wrote:
That's definitely a factor later on, since I'm only in plat, but even in the first few minutes, where there's not much for me to mess up, he's able to get his forge about 15 seconds faster, and his gateway 30 seconds faster, which adds up over time.


Provide a replay somewhere and someone can help you figure out if you're doing anything wrong.
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
December 19 2012 01:27 GMT
#640
What a well constructed guide. Can we get a RvR one soon? :DDD
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