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On July 04 2011 02:49 holyhalo5 wrote:
This question is addressed to anyone who wishes to answer.
What would it take for Flash to get to #2? How horribly must Flash fail (short of retirement) to make you finally consider Flash's past achievements null, and move him down on the PR?
I don't disagree that Flash has been the most dominant player for 3 years now, and that he deserved every single #1 he got (I even thought that one #2 sometime ago was quite unfair for him). But the way flamewheel justified THIS time's #1 made me scared; he actually gives me the impression that short of retirement, nothing can rob Flash of his #1 spot. Flamewheel implies that only two excuses are needed to justify this: Flash's wrist injury, and Flash's past achievements. Flash deserved #1 this time, but does he deserve it next month if he keeps performing below par?
He didn't get #1 just because of his past achievements; he got it because he won the MSL this month and because he's also won MSLs in the past, this got him the golden badge. It's likely he'll fall in the coming months with his injury.
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On July 04 2011 02:49 holyhalo5 wrote:
This question is addressed to anyone who wishes to answer.
What would it take for Flash to get to #2? How horribly must Flash fail (short of retirement) to make you finally consider Flash's past achievements null, and move him down on the PR?
I don't disagree that Flash has been the most dominant player for 3 years now, and that he deserved every single #1 he got (I even thought that one #2 sometime ago was quite unfair for him). But the way flamewheel justified THIS time's #1 made me scared; he actually gives me the impression that short of retirement, nothing can rob Flash of his #1 spot. Flamewheel implies that only two excuses are needed to justify this: Flash's wrist injury, and Flash's past achievements. Flash deserved #1 this time, but does he deserve it next month if he keeps performing below par?
Don't act like a chicken with its head cutoff. Flamewheel was also the person who dropped Flash to #5 after that abysmal performance in December of last year. What Flamewheel was pointing out is that Flash has now tied NaDa's gold medal count in a manner that is, shall we say, most thoroughly convincing. He's not just saying "look at what Flash has done," but also pointing to when it was done. Flash has appeared in 7 of the past 9 finals. Even with an injury Flash STILL took the MSL gold, STILL had the best overall result of anyone last month. Basically, this is the equivalent to the "Don't even try to argue this one" that Savior received on the PR.
Does not mean Flash will receive #1 forever. He could drop next month. But this month? Anyone trying to argue it looks like a douche.
On July 04 2011 05:19 Holgerius wrote:You don't have to literally stop posting yo. Unless a moderator bans you.  But if you don't want to be unpopular amongst the TL crowd you might want to change some things about your posting.
Honestly? I'd like for him to stop posting. He's ignorant AND arrogant.
Ignorant: "...maybe you dont have the same idea than me for PR , maybe you dont see it with the same seriousness as me , but if in fact you do , i think its time to grow up and work on PR more about objectivity and reality and less about feelings." I've posted more comments in PR threads than he has posted on the entire forum. And most of my posts are long. And I'm not the only one. He thinks he cares more than we do?
Ignorant: "bisu going 64 - 16 and 80% ratio is easily equivalent to 2 OSL/MSL titles ." So many things are wrong with this statement it just boggles my mind. And also, Flash is 76% so there really is not such a difference. Bisu might have scored a higher % last month, but he did so against WEAK opponents. And he also lost his most important games. Because he is not clutch. He is UNclutch.
Ignorant: "and now proleague is THE competition of SC . a korean's friend of me really confirmed that to me . OSL and MSL are not what it was in the early years , now its about PL . yes sure , OSL and MSL are still very important and very prestigious , but proleague is now more . its everyday , korea live with it everyday . with a large bigger media coverage than 5 - 6 years ago . 80% of the TV SC games in korea are now in SPL . so give it credit . im not making publicity stunt here , but i think you all are underrating the importance of SPL ." OSL and MSL make more money than PL does. You know why? Because most people DO NOT WATCH every PL game. Everybody watches these events: OSL finals (3 times per year), MSL finals (3 times per year), PL grand final (1 time per year). PL grand final is considered the most important, but it is a TEAM EVENT. Yes the best football player can be on a team that never wins, but the best tennis player as you mentioned all had GOOD results in tournaments. That was proof of their skill. Bisu has NO RESULTS in tournaments:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=125&part=games&vs=all&league=individual&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=7&from_day=22&to_year=2011&to_month=6&to_day=26&action=Update
NEVER making for about a year now. Bisu cannot play S-class Starcraft without his TEAM standing behind him. As I said, he is UNclutch.
Ignorant AND arrogant: "ok i heard what i want . so TL doesnt want to see the game like koreans do . i think its a little stupid but whatever ." ... "koreans know SC better than you can ever imagine . pretend to make some defensible power ranking with your own opinion of SC is completely stupid . you have to live in the reality ." -- ROFL? TLnet has former PROGAMERS who lived in Korea and played on professional teams. TLnet has native Koreans who are active on Korean message boards. TLnet is visited by coaches of Korean professional teams. Professional gamers are all aware of this site, sometimes mentioning us in interviews.
The thing is, you don't actually give a shit what Koreans think. You only care what YOU think and then hide behind the banner of "my Korean friend" when there are HUNDREDS of users here who have LIVED in Korea and HUNDREDS who have been following the Korean community for a decade or longer.
You want everyone to do what you want. You are a self-centered egomeniacal fuck who thinks he knows better than everyone else when he doesn't know shit. You have no respect for anyone else's viewpoint and then you are going to whine about how nobody respects yours? Go take your whining elsewhere.
BE GONE. GOOD RIDDANCE.
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Ya, as I said; if TL had an Ignore-function so I didn't have to see his posts I would definitely use it on Vampyr. It's just that ''Stop posting'' sounds a little cruel to me.  He's welcome to keep on posting if he changes these irritating traits that he has.
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i'll say one thing: Bisu is low (and should be lower imo) for the same reason horang2 isn't in the PR: Dropping out of starleagues in your best matchup in the offline prelims despite having decent PL performance doesn't cut it.
In all honesty, Jangbi deserves a higher spot than Bisu.
I'm quite tired of seeing bisu high in the PR because he's bisu.
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On July 04 2011 06:57 Holgerius wrote:Ya, as I said; if TL had an Ignore-function so I didn't have to see his posts I would definitely use it on Vampyr. It's just that ''Stop posting'' sounds a little cruel to me. He's welcome to keep on posting if he changes these irritating traits that he has.
Expecting someone like that who disrespects the knowledge and understanding of an entire community of maybe more than a hundred thousand people, some of whom played professionally, to recognize that he is not special is unrealistic. Either he'll learn after he gets called out several times or he'll never learn and remain self-centered his whole life. It's not my job to play e-therapist.
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just one thing important i need to say :
i never wanted to make uncredible TL about SC . you cant never imagine how much i love this site , how much i respect the work done and how much its important for me .
and mortality , yes i want everyone to do what i want , because im god .
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On July 04 2011 07:38 vaMpYr wrote:
and mortality , yes i want everyone to do what i want , because im god .
You're probably 13.
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On July 04 2011 09:11 Elefanto wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 07:38 vaMpYr wrote:
and mortality , yes i want everyone to do what i want , because im god .
You're probably 13.
And probably like Asian comic books too.
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Hey, let's not diss manga. There's some good shit in there.
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On July 04 2011 10:39 Mortality wrote:
Hey, let's not diss manga. There's some good shit in there.
qft :D
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On July 04 2011 09:45 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 09:11 Elefanto wrote:On July 04 2011 07:38 vaMpYr wrote:
and mortality , yes i want everyone to do what i want , because im god .
You're probably 13. And probably like Asian comic books too.
I love Asian comic books.. <3 (But then again, I AM Asian so I'm biased :D)
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Nice game from jangbu. Now I'm convinced.
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It seems none of you except Holgerius read my post, namely the last sentence of it. And it also seems that most of you guys agree with me - if Flash continues to lose games next month he won't keep #1. But does flamewheel think that too?
For those of you who didn't read my entire post, I agree with Flash #1 this month.
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On July 04 2011 12:55 holyhalo5 wrote:
It seems none of you except Holgerius read my post, namely the last sentence of it. And it also seems that most of you guys agree with me - if Flash continues to lose games next month he won't keep #1. But does flamewheel think that too?
For those of you who didn't read my entire post, I agree with Flash #1 this month.
I fully expect to be dropping him when SKT (Bisu) or CJ (Hydra) wins the PL grand final in the Ace match.
Even barring that I doubt he'll be playing that many games...
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On July 04 2011 05:11 vaMpYr wrote:
ok i will stop posting . sorry for everything .
thats a good idea
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On July 04 2011 13:23 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 12:55 holyhalo5 wrote:
It seems none of you except Holgerius read my post, namely the last sentence of it. And it also seems that most of you guys agree with me - if Flash continues to lose games next month he won't keep #1. But does flamewheel think that too?
For those of you who didn't read my entire post, I agree with Flash #1 this month. I fully expect to be dropping him when SKT (Bisu) or CJ (Hydra) wins the PL grand final in the Ace match. Even barring that I doubt he'll be playing that many games...
KT will win the PL GF so.... uhhhhhhhhhh.
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Two paewangs and arguably 3 silver surfers.
What has Power Rank come to!!
(just kidding I love you Yellow/Jangbang/Godhand
and I guess Zero too OK!)
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Wow, every time I check the PL results it seems Bisu gets another win and Fantasy another loss. Right now Fantasy has the same Elo as Soo. I'm thinking Bisu stole all of Fantasy's mojo.
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On July 05 2011 07:08 Goragoth wrote:
Wow, every time I check the PL results it seems Bisu gets another win and Fantasy another loss. Right now Fantasy has the same Elo as Soo. I'm thinking Bisu stole all of Fantasy's mojo.
Fantasy burned up all of his getting a gold, for someone in the kong line that takes a lot of mojo, Fantasy's debt is pretty big.
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Bisu gets record for most wins in proleague.
ever.
flash slumps
flash #1
bisu #5
i'm sorry what?
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