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maximuspita
Profile Joined April 2010
1093 Posts
July 05 2011 05:37 GMT
#221
On July 05 2011 14:33 Kiante wrote:
Bisu gets record for most wins in proleague.
ever.

flash slumps

flash #1
bisu #5

i'm sorry what?

Flash ties NaDA in starleague golds
Bisu drops out of OSL to hyvaa.

Yes?
Korean Air, please save Fox.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
July 05 2011 05:51 GMT
#222
90% winrate vs 50% winrate.
yes?
Writer
maximuspita
Profile Joined April 2010
1093 Posts
July 05 2011 05:57 GMT
#223
On July 05 2011 14:51 Kiante wrote:
90% winrate vs 50% winrate.
yes?

Keep cherry picking PL stats from just a month. All of these have been dealt with and more by Mortality and others.
Korean Air, please save Fox.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
July 05 2011 06:06 GMT
#224
Considering the power rank is decided by month. i dont see how comparing win rates over the month in question is "cherry picking"
Writer
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 05 2011 06:07 GMT
#225
On July 05 2011 14:51 Kiante wrote:
90% winrate vs 50% winrate.
yes?


Sorry making it individual leagues while doing good in proleague is way better then just being a proleague boss lol. Jaedong/Flash should be ahead of Bisu for sure this PR, and with how jaedong is playing in individual leagues and proleague should stay ahead of him.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
July 05 2011 06:10 GMT
#226
On July 05 2011 15:07 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 14:51 Kiante wrote:
90% winrate vs 50% winrate.
yes?


Sorry making it individual leagues while doing good in proleague is way better then just being a proleague boss lol. Jaedong/Flash should be ahead of Bisu for sure this PR, and with how jaedong is playing in individual leagues and proleague should stay ahead of him.


going 1-5 in proleague is "good"? thats not good, thats terrible.
Writer
vaMpYr
Profile Joined July 2009
France119 Posts
July 05 2011 08:55 GMT
#227
forget it Kiante . they wont listen .
jaedong > flash in OSLs ; jaedong > flash in MSLs ; jaedong > flash in WCGs ; jaedong > flash in proleagues . what else ? NESPRESSO ( old quote =( )
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
July 05 2011 09:59 GMT
#228
PL is team based, induvidual leagues are where it`s at.
Simply because it lets you measure players up against eachother, instead of having to base things off a number.
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 10:36:27
July 05 2011 10:36 GMT
#229
On July 05 2011 14:33 Kiante wrote:
Bisu gets record for most wins in proleague.
ever.

flash slumps

flash #1
bisu #5

i'm sorry what?


Flash was #1 the previous PR, he only needed to maintain his spot this month. He won the MSL in this PR's set of data that's a lot more important than some PL wins. Come complain if the situation is the same when Bisu decides to actually do something in the individual leagues. Good in PL only keeps Bisu in the PR 3-5 spots. Bad wrist included, nobody is a favorite in a BO5 against Flash. For me that's a pretty good metric of where a player should be ranked.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 11:25:47
July 05 2011 11:13 GMT
#230
On July 05 2011 15:10 Kiante wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 15:07 blade55555 wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:51 Kiante wrote:
90% winrate vs 50% winrate.
yes?


Sorry making it individual leagues while doing good in proleague is way better then just being a proleague boss lol. Jaedong/Flash should be ahead of Bisu for sure this PR, and with how jaedong is playing in individual leagues and proleague should stay ahead of him.


going 1-5 in proleague is "good"? thats not good, thats terrible.


I think you're missing something. Most people don't care about a month's worth of proleague games when there's major individual league stuff going on. Flash won a title and made it into OSL, Bisu dropped out of OSL and never had a shot at the MSL. Bisu is clearly the better proleague player, but no one but Bisu fans care or think it's enough reason to award him #1.

He'd probably have a shot at stealing it if he could've made it out of prelims, but that was the nail in the coffin.
Remember Violet.
vaMpYr
Profile Joined July 2009
France119 Posts
July 05 2011 11:40 GMT
#231
On July 05 2011 20:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 15:10 Kiante wrote:
On July 05 2011 15:07 blade55555 wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:51 Kiante wrote:
90% winrate vs 50% winrate.
yes?


Sorry making it individual leagues while doing good in proleague is way better then just being a proleague boss lol. Jaedong/Flash should be ahead of Bisu for sure this PR, and with how jaedong is playing in individual leagues and proleague should stay ahead of him.


going 1-5 in proleague is "good"? thats not good, thats terrible.


I think you're missing something. Most people don't care about a month's worth of proleague games when there's major individual league stuff going on. Flash won a title and made it into OSL, Bisu dropped out of OSL and never had a shot at the MSL. Bisu is clearly the better proleague player, but no one but Bisu fans care or think it's enough reason to award him #1.

He'd probably have a shot at stealing it if he could've made it out of prelims, but that was the nail in the coffin.



is PR belongs to flash fans for several time now ? we all know flash is the best player ever . nobody will say he is not . nobody . but i think you all are really overratted him compare to some others players and are too much seeing his "legend" thing . i think its really unfair to many other players . flash had many many 1# PR , more than everyone . and to defend his 1# spot this month with his "nada lol achievement" or others legend things about him is simply unfair to the "june players" bisu , jangbi , jaedong , movie , hoejja , soo ect ect . flash just failed his june month , and he deserve to down because of that . his MSL crush should just maitain him in the top 5 or top 3 . but not 1# . its unfair .
jaedong > flash in OSLs ; jaedong > flash in MSLs ; jaedong > flash in WCGs ; jaedong > flash in proleagues . what else ? NESPRESSO ( old quote =( )
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 11:47:48
July 05 2011 11:47 GMT
#232
Funny how you, Kiante, talk about Bisu getting most wins in PL (over the entire season that spans over a period of many many months) ever and then all of a sudden turns around completely and argues about the winrate of just this specific month because ''the power rank is decided by month''.

I really don't see how Bisu could have a realistic shot at #1 with his constant failures in the individual leagues. It hasn't happened once, not twice... it happens every single time! Every single Starleague since a couple of years back. In the meantime Flash is busy tying Nada by stomping through his competition with 3-0's in a ridiculously dominating fashion while having wrist problems.

Bisu is a ridiculous monster in PL, but that has NEVER been more important to the PR than winning golds in the Starleagues. He has something to prove, and he just hasn't done it so far.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
vaMpYr
Profile Joined July 2009
France119 Posts
July 05 2011 12:01 GMT
#233
if you have and argument who can prove that bisu does not deserve 1# ( which is really defendable ) , flash still does not deserve 1# spot either . we can have jangbi or jaedong in 1# .
jaedong > flash in OSLs ; jaedong > flash in MSLs ; jaedong > flash in WCGs ; jaedong > flash in proleagues . what else ? NESPRESSO ( old quote =( )
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 12:02:42
July 05 2011 12:01 GMT
#234
On July 05 2011 20:40 vaMpYr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 20:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 05 2011 15:10 Kiante wrote:
On July 05 2011 15:07 blade55555 wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:51 Kiante wrote:
90% winrate vs 50% winrate.
yes?


Sorry making it individual leagues while doing good in proleague is way better then just being a proleague boss lol. Jaedong/Flash should be ahead of Bisu for sure this PR, and with how jaedong is playing in individual leagues and proleague should stay ahead of him.


going 1-5 in proleague is "good"? thats not good, thats terrible.


I think you're missing something. Most people don't care about a month's worth of proleague games when there's major individual league stuff going on. Flash won a title and made it into OSL, Bisu dropped out of OSL and never had a shot at the MSL. Bisu is clearly the better proleague player, but no one but Bisu fans care or think it's enough reason to award him #1.

He'd probably have a shot at stealing it if he could've made it out of prelims, but that was the nail in the coffin.



is PR belongs to flash fans for several time now ? we all know flash is the best player ever . nobody will say he is not . nobody . but i think you all are really overratted him compare to some others players and are too much seeing his "legend" thing . i think its really unfair to many other players . flash had many many 1# PR , more than everyone . and to defend his 1# spot this month with his "nada lol achievement" or others legend things about him is simply unfair to the "june players" bisu , jangbi , jaedong , movie , hoejja , soo ect ect . flash just failed his june month , and he deserve to down because of that . his MSL crush should just maitain him in the top 5 or top 3 . but not 1# . its unfair .

It is fair, because the same treatment would be given to anyone else doing the same thing. Remember when JD went 0-3 in the PL finals, then went 1-3 in the MSL? No one gave a shit about that; JD smashed through his competition in the OSL (including the same guy who made a fool out of him in the PL final) and won the Golden Badge! He then proceeded to lose to Stork in WCG in the same month, but once again; no one fucking cares because he won back to back OSLs for the first time since Boxer himself did it!

Stop assuming this is a conspiracy to keep Flash at the top. He does deserve the #1 spot, and you will find that most people agree with that.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
July 05 2011 12:02 GMT
#235
Might have bumped Bisu over Hydra but i can't consider him a contender for first place when Flash takes home a TITLE. Nevermind the significance of him equaling nada, thats an MSL GOLD.
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
July 05 2011 12:09 GMT
#236
i must say vampyr i dont follow your logic
i can promise you that in the next PR flash wont be amended 1# spot for tying nada's record
if that helps your feeling and it may be very well we wont be seeing flash playing in quite some time with the wrist problem and all.
i have no problem you expressing you subjective/objective feeling
but i dont think anyone here is sharing them objectively/subjectively
so just remember when u'r driving your car on the highway and wondering to your self why so many cars are driving on the opposite way in the same rout
you need to take a breath count to 5 .... slowly and realize its you driving on the wrong side
and if we're at it with this analogy plz stop wasting fuel
dear god the world has a shortage dont you know
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
July 05 2011 12:18 GMT
#237
people are arguing as if Flash won the gold and tied Nada last year instead of last June
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
4vvhiplash7
Profile Joined December 2010
South Africa392 Posts
July 05 2011 12:26 GMT
#238
On July 05 2011 21:01 vaMpYr wrote:
if you have and argument who can prove that bisu does not deserve 1# ( which is really defendable ) , flash still does not deserve 1# spot either . we can have jangbi or jaedong in 1# .


I thought you were going to stop posting? I read, re-read and tried again to understand your argument... but to no avail. I still don't see where you're coming from with this... Give it a break
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
July 05 2011 12:35 GMT
#239
i can't help but think that we are all getting trolled
but the thing is, there are other people who share his line of thinking
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 14:47:06
July 05 2011 12:57 GMT
#240
On July 05 2011 21:01 vaMpYr wrote:
if you have and argument who can prove that bisu does not deserve 1# ( which is really defendable ) , flash still does not deserve 1# spot either . we can have jangbi or jaedong in 1# .


Any player who fails in OSL prelims and in the first round of MSL does not deserve to be #1 on PR. They could go undefeated in PL for the entire month and win multiple ace games and they'd just be Leta 2.0.

Anyone who wins a title against strong competition has a shot at #1. Anyone who 6-0's their strong competition to win a title will always get #1 on the PR. There is no double standard here, Holgerius pointed out another time where a player got absolutely trashed in everything but one league and got #1 because they trashed one league (Jaedong did so 3-1, 3-0).

Name me one thing anyone else in this past month did that was bigger or more important than the MSL. If we're going to go on a month only basis and pick out Flash's PL losses, then we will. Please tell me ANYTHING anyone has done this month that is as important or as impressive as winning an MSL -- I'm completely disregarding all of Flash's history and pointing only to the MSL win, I'm not bringing up any biased arguments for my undying love of Flash, I want you to tell me what anyone else has done that's greater than winning an MSL.
Remember Violet.
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