• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:23
CEST 02:23
KST 09:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results1Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !11Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results MaNa leaves Team Liquid Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 SC2 INu's Battles#16 <BO.9> Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
Pros React to: TvT Masterclass in FlaSh vs Light ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Flashes ASL S21 Ro8 Review BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [ASL21] Semifinals A [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1981 users

MVP's Coach on NASL Korean exit

Forum Index > SC2 General
676 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 32 33 34 Next All
oPlaiD
Profile Joined March 2011
United States31 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 06:23:43
August 17 2011 03:43 GMT
#1
ESFI had the chance to talk with Youn-Sang Choi, the head coach and manager of MVP, and he wanted to weigh in on the current controversy surrounding the withdrawal of Korean teams from NASL.

As MVP did not participate in NASL and Coach Choi was not privy to the negotiations between the Korean teams and NASL, but he wanted to give his own opinion on how the Korean players became disillusioned with the league, from his third party perspective and based off what teams and players had told him about the NASL event.

He also talks about what he would need to see from NASL before he would consider letting MVP compete in the league.

You can read the full article at ESFI, but below is an excerpt.

MVP has not competed in NASL and has no plans to currently, but Coach Choi might reconsider if NASL fixes a few issues with their league, including clearing up the problem of the deposit.

He listed the things he would personally like to see from NASL before he would let his team participate.

"[NASL] should first release an apology about what happened," he said, "The Korean Teams feel that NASL is only trying to cover up their mistakes and blame the Korean teams. NASL posted their opinion on Team Liquid and not through official channels, causing not only the five Korean teams in question but also the rest of the Korean teams to feel that they lost their reputation. This is seen as extremely amateurish in Korea."

"Second, they should fix the poor operation of NASL, in both the online league and finals," said the coach, "Making the players wait for such a long period of time like that greatly affects their conditions and their performance.

"Finally, because I’m answering what NASL should change in order for MVP team to participate, NASL should take better care of the players, including pick up from the airport, accomodations, and scheduling, instead of focusing only on the broadcast. If NASL want the tournament to grow, the players’ convenience should be the first priority in order to create great matches so that the fans will become enthusiastic."

Coach Choi hopes that his comments will not cause controversy, as he wants both sides to reach an amicable conclusion to the disagreement.

"I am not saying these things because of ill will towards NASL," added Choi, "I have no reason to hate NASL. I simply wish, as a fan of major tournaments, that NASL will be able to fix their mistakes in order to improve as an event."


Update:

Coach Choi wanted to emphasize the fact that the language barrier and time difference makes communication difficult and hopes that all sides will work together to prevent arguments like this one from occurring in the future.

I think the biggest problem is the difference in traditional values and language barrier, more than anything else. Because of the different time zones, communication doesn't precede right after the other. So I believe that instead of just speaking of one’s opinions, it will be an important step to have open mind and listen closely to what each other has to say, and try to compromise if there are any differences in opinions. As people who equally love Starcraft 2, it will be good to reduce unilateral announcements or manipulating the media, and instead publish suggestions at the same time after both have reflected their opinions.


Check out the full article at ESFI.
Facebook Twitter Reddit
Samuel Lingle - Senior Editor - http://www.esfiworld.com/
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 17 2011 03:45 GMT
#2
Thank you for posting this! Will read now.
Vinx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada259 Posts
August 17 2011 03:47 GMT
#3
... and would it kill you to lay out some red carpet!!!
Starcraft 2 > RL ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10720 Posts
August 17 2011 03:49 GMT
#4
very nice , I'm glad to read what the koreans say about NASL, and I kinda agree, it is amateurish to post on TL before talking to all of them / working something out with them, I totally feel how the korean teams are feeling at this point in time.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Iberville
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada207 Posts
August 17 2011 03:49 GMT
#5
Finally someone telling it how it is. I fully agree with this and hope the NASL is taking notes. I want the NASL to succeed, and will support it. Hopefully this mess will blow over soon.
I promise not to make a tasteless joke.
Bro_Stone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States510 Posts
August 17 2011 03:49 GMT
#6
More controversy yaaay!
Stim Go Go GO!
ThreeActPlay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 03:50:58
August 17 2011 03:50 GMT
#7
"Finally, because I’m answering what NASL should change in order for MVP team to participate, NASL should take better care of the players, including pick up from the airport, accomodations, and scheduling, instead of focusing only on the broadcast. If NASL want the tournament to grow, the players’ convenience should be the first priority in order to create great matches so that the fans will become enthusiastic."

Sorry, but this is bunk to me. If you have to be wined and dined to compete, tough. NASL should focus on the production and the broadcast, since that's what the fans care about.
twitter.com/haethos
Pieismyign
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States176 Posts
August 17 2011 03:51 GMT
#8
why cant nasl rent a car and pick them up from an airport....
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
August 17 2011 03:51 GMT
#9
On August 17 2011 12:50 ThreeActPlay wrote:
"Treat us like the rock stars that we are, OK?" I'm sure they want free steak dinners and limo service thrown in too.


When YOU are in foreign country, it would be nice if your host picks you up from the airport. They just want to be treated like a guest, not a rock star. So please dont insult their simple request...you are only insulting your own intelligence and manner.
Phaded
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia579 Posts
August 17 2011 03:53 GMT
#10
I'd be pretty pissed off too if a tournament greets me at the airport with an $80 bill for transport.

What the hell...
I am down but I am far from over
deerpark87
Profile Joined January 2011
760 Posts
August 17 2011 03:55 GMT
#11
I can understand why the koreans should withdraw from NASL. Waking 4am and then long delays of 1-2 will sure screw up your performance when GSTL starts.
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
August 17 2011 03:55 GMT
#12
NASL was poorly ran and executed. No excuse about it. They sound even more amateur by trying to blame the Koreans on their incompetence...
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
August 17 2011 03:55 GMT
#13
Fair enough. But its missing the whole point - signed contracts were violated. If you think a tournament is not up to standard, don't compete. Don't sign up for qualifiers and then pull out
Solinos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States105 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 03:58:16
August 17 2011 03:57 GMT
#14
On August 17 2011 12:51 ninjamyst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 12:50 ThreeActPlay wrote:
"Treat us like the rock stars that we are, OK?" I'm sure they want free steak dinners and limo service thrown in too.


When YOU are in foreign country, it would be nice if your host picks you up from the airport. They just want to be treated like a guest, not a rock star. So please dont insult their simple request...you are only insulting your own intelligence and manner.



Fair enough point - requesting that travel from the airport to the tournament be taken care of is fine. Most of the Korean pros don't have great English skills, and they're all going to be really tired from the flight. At the same time, I'm not sure how much money NASL has to throw around at this sort of thing, and it would be fairly rude to make accommodations for Koreans and not for the European pros. I'm not entirely clear what happened with season one travel - it seemed to me as though NASL had footed that $80 bill before, and now it seems like they didn't.

As far as the article's points: Reducing technical issues, wait time, and generally increasing the level of professionalism at NASL events are obvious musts that need to happen as NASL continues on. I can't imagine what else they'd do, though - it's not like anyone at NASL is sitting there thinking, "Boy, we loved having all that deadtime at the finals! Made it really exciting, you know?"
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
August 17 2011 03:58 GMT
#15
As an business decision I can totally understand due to effects on GSL/GSTL performance, possibility of losing money, and wasting 9 weeks of effort for nothing; though still wrong to go against the contract after going through qualifiers.

On August 17 2011 12:50 ThreeActPlay wrote:
"Finally, because I’m answering what NASL should change in order for MVP team to participate, NASL should take better care of the players, including pick up from the airport, accomodations, and scheduling, instead of focusing only on the broadcast. If NASL want the tournament to grow, the players’ convenience should be the first priority in order to create great matches so that the fans will become enthusiastic."

Sorry, but this is bunk to me. If you have to be wined and dined to compete, tough. NASL should focus on the production and the broadcast, since that's what the fans care about.


The problem is that the fans care about game quality and the Koreans bring the quality of games to a new level and to keep the Koreans well...
Gameplay > Personality
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 17 2011 03:59 GMT
#16
On August 17 2011 12:55 Azzur wrote:
Fair enough. But its missing the whole point - signed contracts were violated. If you think a tournament is not up to standard, don't compete. Don't sign up for qualifiers and then pull out


In addition to this, there is a point where it is a mutual relationship: the Koreans seem to make it out to be they are doing a favor to NASL, and not getting much in return. Lest we forget, 40$k is up for grabs, in addition to the whole 100$k prizepool. NASL shouldnt hae to wait hand and foot in return for something the Koreans are benefiting from.
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
August 17 2011 03:59 GMT
#17
On August 17 2011 12:50 ThreeActPlay wrote:
"Finally, because I’m answering what NASL should change in order for MVP team to participate, NASL should take better care of the players, including pick up from the airport, accomodations, and scheduling, instead of focusing only on the broadcast. If NASL want the tournament to grow, the players’ convenience should be the first priority in order to create great matches so that the fans will become enthusiastic."

Sorry, but this is bunk to me. If you have to be wined and dined to compete, tough. NASL should focus on the production and the broadcast, since that's what the fans care about.

While his demand's are a bit extreme, fans also care about the players. Also NASL focusing on the production and broadcast is a bit ironic, considering most of their problems are with the production and broadcast.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
August 17 2011 03:59 GMT
#18
They really need to set a certain schedule to play. Telling koreans to wait at 3 am till 6 am really hurts their schedule.
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
August 17 2011 04:00 GMT
#19
Just a quick note: it wasn't Choo-Suk when NASL announcement came. It was, however, a 3-day weekend with Monday off as a national holiday in Korea.
Greyjoy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada29 Posts
August 17 2011 04:00 GMT
#20
I'm starting to lose a lot of respect for both the korean teams and nasl. They seem to release childish articles taking potshots at each other. Furthermore what the hell are the official channels? Nasl released their piece on TL, the site for english sc2. Where else would they post it?
We do not sow
1 2 3 4 5 32 33 34 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Amantes de StarCraft 2 #44
CranKy Ducklings37
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Vindicta 101
Ketroc 20
ROOTCatZ 2
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 11854
GuemChi 4319
Aegong 100
NaDa 23
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm139
League of Legends
Doublelift10270
summit1g8640
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox463
AZ_Axe79
PPMD37
Other Games
gofns15195
tarik_tv10125
C9.Mang0362
Artosis354
JimRising 309
monkeys_forever307
PiGStarcraft164
Maynarde157
ViBE95
Livibee55
CosmosSc2 43
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta52
• musti20045 36
• Adnapsc2 9
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP8
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 13
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21508
League of Legends
• Scarra665
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
9h 37m
Classic vs Solar
herO vs SHIN
OSC
12h 37m
Big Brain Bouts
15h 37m
sebesdes vs Iba
Percival vs YoungYakov
Reynor vs GgMaChine
Korean StarCraft League
1d 2h
RSL Revival
1d 9h
Clem vs Rogue
Bunny vs Lambo
IPSL
1d 15h
Dewalt vs nOmaD
Ret vs Cross
BSL
1d 18h
Bonyth vs Doodle
Dewalt vs TerrOr
GSL
2 days
Cure vs herO
SHIN vs Maru
IPSL
2 days
Bonyth vs Napoleon
G5 vs JDConan
BSL
2 days
OyAji vs JDConan
DragOn vs TBD
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-13
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.