EPT[EURO 2016] Semi Finals - Page 32
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sharkie
Austria18762 Posts
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9331 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
On July 08 2016 06:04 GumBa wrote: Germany need to produce another quality striker. ASAP. Well Müller wasn't up to his game in this tournament. The man is burned out, too many games. If he scores a few goals, our attack wouldn't look so toothless, even without a top striker. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On July 08 2016 06:02 sharkie wrote: You thinking talent can win you matches in football is just so stupid... Talent does shit without tactics. Case study : England 2016 :D | ||
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hootsushi
Germany3468 Posts
On July 08 2016 06:06 sharkie wrote: I can't believe that Germany misses Klose more than Lahm. Kimmich is the real deal, give him some time and we'll have a quality replacement for Lahm | ||
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sharkie
Austria18762 Posts
How salty can you get lol... This coming from the same country who called Poldi a mascot | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On July 08 2016 06:02 sharkie wrote: You thinking talent can win you matches in football is just so stupid... Talent does shit without tactics. It's like I'm talking to a child. No fucking shit talent alone doesn't win everything. 11 of the world's best players running around like headless chickens won't win. If you had any kind of intellectual integrity you would realize that the argument is that there are clearly better tactical choices that can be made with the amount of talent that Germany has. There is no excuse for having only 1 striker on the roster. There's no excuse for sticking to a system that makes this team consistently underperform relative to the amount of quality they have. Slowing the game down this much and trying to pass the ball into the back of the net doesn't work with this team. It didn't win them the WC (they won that on an awful Brazilian side and a brilliant 2-man counter attack in the 113th minute combined with Higuain choking hard). Again, I ask you to say with a straight face that you think that the unimpressive performances that Germany has put on in the last two tournaments (against Ghana, the U.S., Algeria, France, Argentina, Ukraine, Poland, North Ireland, Italy, and France, none of which looked convincing even when they won) are actually indicative of the quality of players that Germany has at its disposal. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4558 Posts
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On July 08 2016 06:08 sharkie wrote: So in the last two hours I saw Germans wanting Poldi and shittalk Müller. How salty can you get lol... This coming from the same country who called Poldi a mascot Poldi gets much more shit than he deserves, though. He's not a top level player but it's not like he's much worse than the other reserve players. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On July 08 2016 06:08 sharkie wrote: So in the last two hours I saw Germans wanting Poldi and shittalk Müller. How salty can you get lol... This coming from the same country who called Poldi a mascot That's how much we wanted to see a goal. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10014 Posts
England's failures go way, way deeper. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18762 Posts
On July 08 2016 06:09 Stratos_speAr wrote: It's like I'm talking to a child. No fucking shit talent alone doesn't win everything. 11 of the world's best players running around like headless chickens won't win. If you had any kind of intellectual integrity you would realize that the argument is that there are clearly better tactical choices that can be made with the amount of talent that Germany has. There is no excuse for having only 1 striker on the roster. There's no excuse for sticking to a system that makes this team consistently underperform relative to the amount of quality they have. Slowing the game down this much and trying to pass the ball into the back of the net doesn't work with this team. It didn't win them the WC (they won that on an awful Brazilian side and a brilliant 2-man counter attack in the 113th minute). Again, I ask you to say with a straight face that you think that the unimpressive performances that Germany has put on in the last two tournaments (against Ghana, the U.S., Algeria, France, Argentina, Ukraine, Poland, North Ireland, Italy, and France, none of which looked convincing even when they won) are actually indicative of the quality of players that Germany has at its disposal. It brought them results, that's all people like you care. Also Löw changed his system three times this tournament. Why do you blame him for Boateng and Schweinsteiger's Ballerina handballs? Or Neuer having a blackout. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On July 08 2016 05:59 sharkie wrote: I saw Germany playing kamikaze in 2010 and lose to Spain. Germany play defense in 2014 and win the title. Löw did everything correctly. OK I agreed with you till this point. Germany played Kamikaze in 2010 ? DID YOU SEE THAT SEMI ? I wish they played kamikaze. I went through 14 pints that game because Germany wouldnt leave their half and the booze kept me interested. | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
On July 08 2016 06:09 Laurens wrote: Müller only 36 touches this game. Even if he had 100, he wouldn't have scored anyway. So who gives a damn. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18762 Posts
On July 08 2016 06:11 mderg wrote: Poldi gets much more shit than he deserves, though. He's not a top level player but it's not like he's much worse than the other reserve players. I am a big Poldi fan. I think his record speaks volumes. People saying he scores only goals vs the small teams - well this Germany cannot even score vs small teams. You need players like Klose and Poldi | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
On July 08 2016 06:09 Stratos_speAr wrote: It's like I'm talking to a child. No fucking shit talent alone doesn't win everything. 11 of the world's best players running around like headless chickens won't win. If you had any kind of intellectual integrity you would realize that the argument is that there are clearly better tactical choices that can be made with the amount of talent that Germany has. There is no excuse for having only 1 striker on the roster. There's no excuse for sticking to a system that makes this team consistently underperform relative to the amount of quality they have. Slowing the game down this much and trying to pass the ball into the back of the net doesn't work with this team. It didn't win them the WC (they won that on an awful Brazilian side and a brilliant 2-man counter attack in the 113th minute). Again, I ask you to say with a straight face that you think that the unimpressive performances that Germany has put on in the last two tournaments (against Ghana, the U.S., Algeria, France, Argentina, Ukraine, Poland, North Ireland, Italy, and France, none of which looked convincing even when they won) are actually indicative of the quality of players that Germany has at its disposal. Germany has the best midfield by far currently, the lauded French midfield hardly put up a fight for most of the game. Even if there are injuries, there are good replacements on the bench. And there is the best goalkeeper as well as two top centre backs. But the German squad has clear weaknesses when it comes to the full back position and the striker position, and it's worse now than in 2014. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On July 08 2016 06:12 sharkie wrote: It brought them results, that's all people like you care. Also Löw changed his system three times this tournament. Why do you blame him for Boateng and Schweinsteiger's Ballerina handballs? Or Neuer having a blackout. Löw changed from Götze to Gomez and then changed formations and then back. He's stuck to his ways of a serious lack of strikers, slowing down the game immensely, and prioritizing possession and a passing game over the strong attack and pace that Germany played with until around 2013. And on what planet do you live on? I've been following this team for nearly 2 decades and have been a consistent critic of Löw on these boards since I first started talking about football here in 2010. Results aren't the only thing that matter precisely because of this; if your results aren't reliable, then you're liable to slip up and lose when it matters. Germany has the best midfield by far currently, the lauded French midfield hardly put up a fight for most of the game. Even if there are injuries, there are good replacements on the bench. And there is the best goalkeeper as well as two top centre backs. But the German squad has clear weaknesses when it comes to the full back position and the striker position, and it's worse now than in 2014. Germany had a great option at LB in Schmelzer, who is criminally underrated and played one of his best seasons ever at BVB this year. They also have Kruse and Volland who weren't even brought with this year. And should we talk about how Löw snubbed Kießling for years and years? The precise problem is that Löw knew exactly what Germany's weaknesses were in 2014 and did absolutely nothing to address them. In fact, those weaknesses were only worse this tournament. | ||
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