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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 05 2010 08:19 GMT
#1521
This is my new wallpaper:
[image loading]
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
July 05 2010 15:18 GMT
#1522
woohoo finally got the bar to sit on my little shoulders. looks like my form just needed tweaking

training went ok, kinda leaned back too much on the last rep/set of the press and i know that's horrible for the lower back. i actually found myself grunting halfway through the movement but then i restrained myself (didn't want everyone looking at me i guess lol) which is probably why my last rep sucked. i'll try not to give a shit next time.

as far as upper body compounds are concerned i think the press probably works the abs the most. man my abs are toast....

^ lol at wallpaper. 450lbs?! good luck in trying to lift that (but i'm sure there are a few guys here that can).

"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 05 2010 15:32 GMT
#1523
On July 06 2010 00:18 unknown.sam wrote:
woohoo finally got the bar to sit on my little shoulders. looks like my form just needed tweaking

training went ok, kinda leaned back too much on the last rep/set of the press and i know that's horrible for the lower back. i actually found myself grunting halfway through the movement but then i restrained myself (didn't want everyone looking at me i guess lol) which is probably why my last rep sucked. i'll try not to give a shit next time.

as far as upper body compounds are concerned i think the press probably works the abs the most. man my abs are toast....

^ lol at wallpaper. 450lbs?! good luck in trying to lift that (but i'm sure there are a few guys here that can).



495....

And yeah, people underesetimate how good some compound exercises are in core work. YOu really don't need extra core work most of the time.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 16:05:20
July 05 2010 15:58 GMT
#1524
gaah forgot about the damn bar T_T
well in that case, i don't think anyone here can actually lift it based on the numbers guys have been posting
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
July 05 2010 19:58 GMT
#1525
On July 06 2010 00:58 unknown.sam wrote:
gaah forgot about the damn bar T_T
well in that case, i don't think anyone here can actually lift it based on the numbers guys have been posting

Getting close! I hope to be able to by the end of the year.
Think I fucked my back up dead lifting though
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
July 05 2010 20:39 GMT
#1526
On July 06 2010 04 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              06 2010 04      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:58 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 00:58 unknown.sam wrote:
gaah forgot about the damn bar T_T
well in that case, i don't think anyone here can actually lift it based on the numbers guys have been posting

Getting close! I hope to be able to by the end of the year.
Think I fucked my back up dead lifting though


I hope it's not that bad, injuries suck. Tried to max out on the Bench today, but above 175lb my shoulder started to hurt again. Did 132x20 out of frustration afterwards, lol. Screw Bench. I will just go very high reps with very low weights there for the time being and work on my other lifts.

I also made that barbell my new wallpaper. Looks like a solid piece of motivation
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
July 05 2010 21:32 GMT
#1527
90kg snatch pr today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

max clean and jerk tomarrow!
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
mofoo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden96 Posts
July 05 2010 21:49 GMT
#1528
On July 03 2010 13:06 RowdierBob wrote:
Question regarding overhead -- I have massive problems with my shoulders in that the joints are quite loose and prone to subluxation. Ive done my left shoulder three times and right shoulder once. I probably need surgery to tighten the ligaments, but given I'm no elite athlete and I get by fine mostly it's hard to justify the cost.

I've been considering switching to using machines for overhead press as I'm really not very confident lifting heavier weight given my shoulder could give out (it has happened at the gym before).

Are the machines vastly inferior that I should persevere with free weights, or could I use machines and maybe supplement with some different should exercises?


You should focus more on rotator cuff muscles. Not not use much weight in these exercises.

Example:

SC2 will change my life!
Noggin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
July 05 2010 22:03 GMT
#1529
I'm 6'8 and have a nightmare of a time building muscle evenly and gaining mass (be it fat or muscle) in general.

Do taller frames require more substance and thicker diets to achieve similar goals to average body height individuals or is it all in my head?

decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
July 05 2010 22:22 GMT
#1530
On July 06 2010 06:32 AoN.DimSum wrote:
90kg snatch pr today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

max clean and jerk tomarrow!


holy shit dude you're fuckin nuts. i can't even imagine snatching close to my body weight rofl. go big or go home tomorrow
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
July 05 2010 22:28 GMT
#1531
http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video.php?v=1386199093437&ref=mf

im not sure if you can see this, its my coach's video
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 05 2010 22:58 GMT
#1532
On July 05 2010 17:19 eshlow wrote:
Deadlift should be at the end.

SS only has DL every other session because squats + DL is a bit too intense for novices.

Fair enough, but... since I weight train at 24-hour shitness, I have to fight those awesome squat-rack curlers to squat/DL there. I try to get them both done at once, otherwise when I come back I gotta wait like 10 minutes.

IMO squats+DL is nowhere near as intense as squats + power clean.

If you try to modify SS it's not SS anymore, and that's why you're going to have problems not making good progress.......

The program is made the way it is for a reason, and that is because it works the way it was designed to for the majority of novices. Whenever someone modifies templated programs they assume their own responsibility for lack of gains, because essentially you are saying that you know more about how to progress with your lifting than people who have been coaching new lifters for decades.

And yes, if your weight is dropping you are not eating enough.

Not trying to be harsh or anything but it is what it is. You modify the program and have bad results then that's your own fault.

The progress is fine, just that my energy drops by a lot after the 3rd exercise or so. I'm lifting heavier weights and actually passed the 200 mark on squats.
The template is slowly turning back into SS in terms of sets and reps. I have to DB bench instead of BB bench though, because of the shoulder/back problem that my HMO refuses to acknowledge, and the SS book said that DB is superior to BB in every way except if you want to enter powerlifting competitions.

I was just wondering if there was anything I can do to get extra energy or had any recovery techniques...
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 00:12:36
July 06 2010 00:03 GMT
#1533
On July 06 2010 05:39 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 04 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              06 2010 04      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:58 decafchicken wrote:
On July 06 2010 00:58 unknown.sam wrote:
gaah forgot about the damn bar T_T
well in that case, i don't think anyone here can actually lift it based on the numbers guys have been posting

Getting close! I hope to be able to by the end of the year.
Think I fucked my back up dead lifting though


I hope it's not that bad, injuries suck. Tried to max out on the Bench today, but above 175lb my shoulder started to hurt again. Did 132x20 out of frustration afterwards, lol. Screw Bench. I will just go very high reps with very low weights there for the time being and work on my other lifts.

I also made that barbell my new wallpaper. Looks like a solid piece of motivation

yeah injuries are such a pain in the arse. there's so many things you can't do and there's that feeling of helplessness

sentiments aside, have you tried dips in place of bench? you might wanna give those a go if you haven't already.
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 00:12:13
July 06 2010 00:08 GMT
#1534
On July 06 2010 07:28 AoN.DimSum wrote:
http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video.php?v=1386199093437&ref=mf

im not sure if you can see this, its my coach's video

i think we need to give you a get well card, cause that was just sick!!
oh and congrats on the new PR. you had a little trouble at the start but you pulled it off. great stuff!

maybe you can post a vid of the clean and jerk as well :D
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 06 2010 01:18 GMT
#1535
On July 06 2010 07:28 AoN.DimSum wrote:
http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video.php?v=1386199093437&ref=mf

im not sure if you can see this, its my coach's video


...hooooly fuck dude, thats awesome
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 06 2010 02:27 GMT
#1536
Broke my own record for my run today, it felt really good. Now down to 47 minutes from 1 hour and 8 minutes.
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 02:50:21
July 06 2010 02:43 GMT
#1537
So I'm a 6'3.5" vegetarian who's always had a reallllly hard time putting on weight. I weigh about 165 lbs now, which has never been a problem with me in any respect, except that sometimes people tell me I'm skinny. But I've never had a problem with sports or girls, so this is really just vanity talking now. :D

I would like more muscle definition, just because I think it looks good on thinner guys. Working out intensively makes my biceps pretty big, but almost literally no other muscle seems to respond. Not even my triceps.

What I'm looking for here is input from any other tall male vegetarians, especially if you're genetically pretty thin. No offense, but I tend to find input from shorter guys or meat-eaters to be a little clueless...

So let me know if you're like me.

EDIT: By the way, I'm more accurately a "pescetarian," if that's helpful. I eat eggs, dairy products, and all kinds of seafood.
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 06 2010 02:47 GMT
#1538
On July 06 2010 11:43 kajeus wrote:
So I'm a 6'3.5" vegetarian who's always had a reallllly hard time putting on weight. I weigh about 165 lbs now, which has never been a problem with me in any respect, except that sometimes people tell me I'm skinny. But I've never had a problem with sports or girls, so this is really just vanity talking now. :D

I would like more muscle definition, just because I think it looks good on thinner guys. Working out intensively makes my biceps pretty big, but almost literally no other muscle seems to respond.

What I'm looking for here is input from any other tall male vegetarians, especially if you're genetically pretty thin. No offense, but I tend to find input from shorter guys or meat-eaters to be a little clueless...

So let me know if you're like me.



Personally, I think you should read the vegetarian myth and start eating meat.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
July 06 2010 02:49 GMT
#1539
On July 06 2010 11:47 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 11:43 kajeus wrote:
So I'm a 6'3.5" vegetarian who's always had a reallllly hard time putting on weight. I weigh about 165 lbs now, which has never been a problem with me in any respect, except that sometimes people tell me I'm skinny. But I've never had a problem with sports or girls, so this is really just vanity talking now. :D

I would like more muscle definition, just because I think it looks good on thinner guys. Working out intensively makes my biceps pretty big, but almost literally no other muscle seems to respond.

What I'm looking for here is input from any other tall male vegetarians, especially if you're genetically pretty thin. No offense, but I tend to find input from shorter guys or meat-eaters to be a little clueless...

So let me know if you're like me.



Personally, I think you should read the vegetarian myth and start eating meat.

Haha, I guess I appreciate your input, but I'll probably never eat meat again in my life.
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 06 2010 03:11 GMT
#1540
On July 06 2010 07:58 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 17:19 eshlow wrote:
Deadlift should be at the end.

SS only has DL every other session because squats + DL is a bit too intense for novices.

Fair enough, but... since I weight train at 24-hour shitness, I have to fight those awesome squat-rack curlers to squat/DL there. I try to get them both done at once, otherwise when I come back I gotta wait like 10 minutes.

IMO squats+DL is nowhere near as intense as squats + power clean.

Show nested quote +
If you try to modify SS it's not SS anymore, and that's why you're going to have problems not making good progress.......

The program is made the way it is for a reason, and that is because it works the way it was designed to for the majority of novices. Whenever someone modifies templated programs they assume their own responsibility for lack of gains, because essentially you are saying that you know more about how to progress with your lifting than people who have been coaching new lifters for decades.

And yes, if your weight is dropping you are not eating enough.

Not trying to be harsh or anything but it is what it is. You modify the program and have bad results then that's your own fault.

The progress is fine, just that my energy drops by a lot after the 3rd exercise or so. I'm lifting heavier weights and actually passed the 200 mark on squats.
The template is slowly turning back into SS in terms of sets and reps. I have to DB bench instead of BB bench though, because of the shoulder/back problem that my HMO refuses to acknowledge, and the SS book said that DB is superior to BB in every way except if you want to enter powerlifting competitions.

I was just wondering if there was anything I can do to get extra energy or had any recovery techniques...


Pretty much what I said earlier...

DL at the end... every other workout.

More rest between sets (you shoudl be resting baout 4-5 minutes between sets).
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
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