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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-31 21:24:56
July 31 2011 21:16 GMT
#4461
On August 01 2011 05:42 bdictkam wrote:
Seems absurd to me that i can eat 4 of those and lose weight!! Is there something im not doing right when calorie counting?? If i kept myself feeling hungry all day i could probably make due with like 1250 calories... when i need 2.6 u said. So whats going on? I feel fine too.. Guess i will take your word for it and aim for 1.8ish

Why do u say whole grains are bad? Calorie is a calorie right? I believe in balance so i want some of them if im hungry wont my body use the grains to energy right away rather then make fat store?


Just want to address the edits:

1800 is for you to be able to get away with not being "hungry" all the time, but not stuffed full either. Remember, we want this to be a lifestyle - something you can support for your entire life. Always being hungry, and expecting to stick with it is not a realistic goal. 1800 is a sort of balance between "what I used to eat" and "super duper fat loss starving myself mode". Start out with 1800 - after a few weeks on that, we can play around with the numbers and see what REALLY works best for you.

Hell - you're going to bring 1800 UP after some time. To stick forever at 170 pounds and your height, you're going to need to eat something like 2150. For now, 1800 will help you reach your weightloss "goals" though.

Whole grains are bad because they contain Gluten. Gluten is essentially the protein that grains (which do not want to get eaten) have evolved to "defend" themselves from "predators" - it sticks to your intestines, where it damages the lining (and therefore their efficiency) and causes an exaggerated auto-immune response. This Auto-Immune response to gluten (as well as to chemicals in processed foods and to fructose, among other things) is responsible for a lot of the chronic diseases in society today. Bread and such is fine for the calorie content - it's what makes up those calories that turn it to the bad side of things. Stick as much as you can to meat, veggies, potatoes, and occasionally some fruit. Drink Water, Milk, and Tea (unsweetened, or perhaps with honey) in that order.

as to "using the grains right away" - your body will do that with anything that you put into it. That's why we're restricting the calorie intake in the first place.

On August 01 2011 06:10 bdictkam wrote:
Yeh my sub was under 600 cals, lean and just veggies no extra things. U keep saying grains are bad, but if calories are under the amount say 1.8k, who cares if theres grains? Why do u say grains are bad.. my body gonna burn them in a deficit no? Seems to be the most confusing aspect of diet...

whats wrong with eating a breakfast of 5 eggs? If i eat 4-5 meals that are 300-400 cals...

I will do freeweight from now on, are sit ups a waste of time?


Good for you on picking the "right" ingredients for a sub - but bread and processed turkey meat are still not the best things for you to be eating. 560 calories for whole wheat bread, turkey breast, and veggies (footlong). Write that down wherever you keep track of calories.

Read above for "why grains are bad" - as well, you can search through both this topic and the newer one for the research supporting these statements, as well as a multitude of resources and websites that explain the problem more properly and more in-depth than I ever could.

Nothing is -wrong- with 5 eggs for breakfast. I just don't know many people trying to lose weight who would eat 5 eggs and tell me that it isn't much food, because it's a very good amount, and it's loaded with protein and healthy (saturated) fats that will keep you full for a while. Personally, I can barely finish my breakfast every day, which is three or four strips of bacon and three of four eggs over medium... and I've been eating that for almost a year now. I'm 6'3 180 pounds, been gaining weight steadily for a year now, just for reference.

Also, yes. Situps are a waste of time. Try L-sits, Leg raises, planks and weighted planks, Weighted Push Crunches, windshield wipers - heavy things, and harder things. These will build muscle in your core (your stomach) but nothing besides diet will make you lose weight there.
bdictkam
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-31 21:37:39
July 31 2011 21:24 GMT
#4462
Thanks for your educating responses

Oh maybe one last thing u can advise, what do u do for on the go, food? Say i need to take dinner or lunch with me, i dont always want to package a full chicken breast and veg in tubberware.. Like any easy to wrap/portable foods you do?

Do you think alchohol is healthy in small amounts? I am thinking of making a meal once every 2 days of some nuts and wine/beer, making it approx 300cals

Oh and dairy? I watched a documentary a while ago with a study that dairy made people lose fat.. but ive read places that dairy is a nono... I like cheese :X
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 31 2011 22:17 GMT
#4463
On August 01 2011 06:24 bdictkam wrote:
Thanks for your educating responses

Oh maybe one last thing u can advise, what do u do for on the go, food? Say i need to take dinner or lunch with me, i dont always want to package a full chicken breast and veg in tubberware.. Like any easy to wrap/portable foods you do?

Do you think alchohol is healthy in small amounts? I am thinking of making a meal once every 2 days of some nuts and wine/beer, making it approx 300cals

Oh and dairy? I watched a documentary a while ago with a study that dairy made people lose fat.. but ive read places that dairy is a nono... I like cheese :X


Dairy is fine.

Great article on alcohol here:
http://www.leangains.com/2010/07/truth-about-alcohol-fat-loss-and-muscle.html

It's one of those things that is pretty clearly bad for you, but people do it anyway and don't care. Just weigh the benefits, and see if it seems worth it to you personally or not.

As far as eating on the go - I don't. That's one of the easiest ways to kill a diet. I don't usually eat lunch, so that's not a challenge. I have a big breakfast, and a reasonably early dinner after I work out. The only reason not to eat breakfast is if I woke up late - in which case I won't have time to eat on the go either, and if I have something to do that forces me to skip dinner, I'll just eat later at night.

If I want something quick for a snack between meals though - almonds are awesome. Cans of Tuna are decent (just drain it and pour a little lemon juice in). USually either of those with a glass or two of milk keeps me from being hungry until I can sit down to a real meal.
bdictkam
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada155 Posts
August 03 2011 04:44 GMT
#4464
Is it perfered to eat before a workout +cardio or after? And how much time before of after?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
August 03 2011 04:49 GMT
#4465
Can you guys stop bumping this thread please
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