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Stormich
Profile Joined August 2003
Croatia336 Posts
July 06 2010 08:52 GMT
#1541
So I'm up to 96kg on the deadlift and my wrists are starting to hurt from the weight. I even use the switched wrist grip (don't know the actual name). Is this normal or should I be doing something to make the wrists/grip stronger?
hi
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
July 06 2010 09:00 GMT
#1542
going to the gym tomorrow, will probably go for free weights and focus on legs, stomach and arms. Need to get that upper muscular body :D
[RB]Black
Profile Joined July 2004
United States55 Posts
July 06 2010 09:02 GMT
#1543
On July 06 2010 17:52 Stormer wrote:
So I'm up to 96kg on the deadlift and my wrists are starting to hurt from the weight. I even use the switched wrist grip (don't know the actual name). Is this normal or should I be doing something to make the wrists/grip stronger?



you should be working grip/wrist strength anyway. try doing some deadlifts with the grips in the same direction and just do more sets of low reps. My real suggestion would be to start wokring some high rep kettlebell swings
Noggin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 10:46:29
July 06 2010 10:35 GMT
#1544
On July 06 2010 11:43 kajeus wrote:
So I'm a 6'3.5" vegetarian who's always had a reallllly hard time putting on weight. I weigh about 165 lbs now, which has never been a problem with me in any respect, except that sometimes people tell me I'm skinny. But I've never had a problem with sports or girls, so this is really just vanity talking now. :D

I would like more muscle definition, just because I think it looks good on thinner guys. Working out intensively makes my biceps pretty big, but almost literally no other muscle seems to respond. Not even my triceps.

What I'm looking for here is input from any other tall male vegetarians, especially if you're genetically pretty thin. No offense, but I tend to find input from shorter guys or meat-eaters to be a little clueless...

So let me know if you're like me.

EDIT: By the way, I'm more accurately a "pescetarian," if that's helpful. I eat eggs, dairy products, and all kinds of seafood.


I'm in a slightly similar boat. 6'8 and genetically slender and have a terribly uphill battle even gaining a single pound.

Since you are okay with dairy; I imagine milk + protein mix would be a step in the right direction but then again I didn't have stellar results.
I could knock out ~2-5lbs of protein mix a month and have no change at all; and this was ontop of a nice diet of fats and carbs.

I really think that taller frames just have some extra hurdles.
I'm pretty much lurking around for advice and tips as well but find some to be inapplicable.


[RB]Black
Profile Joined July 2004
United States55 Posts
July 06 2010 10:49 GMT
#1545
you need to squat and deadlift a lot.... and heavy
Stormich
Profile Joined August 2003
Croatia336 Posts
July 06 2010 10:53 GMT
#1546
Ya, GOMAD (gallon of milk a day) + Heavy compound exercises should do the trick
hi
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13036 Posts
July 06 2010 13:44 GMT
#1547
On July 06 2010 19:35 Noggin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 11:43 kajeus wrote:
So I'm a 6'3.5" vegetarian who's always had a reallllly hard time putting on weight. I weigh about 165 lbs now, which has never been a problem with me in any respect, except that sometimes people tell me I'm skinny. But I've never had a problem with sports or girls, so this is really just vanity talking now. :D

I would like more muscle definition, just because I think it looks good on thinner guys. Working out intensively makes my biceps pretty big, but almost literally no other muscle seems to respond. Not even my triceps.

What I'm looking for here is input from any other tall male vegetarians, especially if you're genetically pretty thin. No offense, but I tend to find input from shorter guys or meat-eaters to be a little clueless...

So let me know if you're like me.

EDIT: By the way, I'm more accurately a "pescetarian," if that's helpful. I eat eggs, dairy products, and all kinds of seafood.


I'm in a slightly similar boat. 6'8 and genetically slender and have a terribly uphill battle even gaining a single pound.

Since you are okay with dairy; I imagine milk + protein mix would be a step in the right direction but then again I didn't have stellar results.
I could knock out ~2-5lbs of protein mix a month and have no change at all; and this was ontop of a nice diet of fats and carbs.

I really think that taller frames just have some extra hurdles.
I'm pretty much lurking around for advice and tips as well but find some to be inapplicable.


Quite often when you think you're eating a lot, you're probably not. That or you may be eating the wrong types of foods.

It's often really helpful to post an average daily eating schedule and let one of the knowledgeable guys like eshlow show you where you can improve.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
July 06 2010 13:44 GMT
#1548
On July 06 2010 17:52 Stormer wrote:
So I'm up to 96kg on the deadlift and my wrists are starting to hurt from the weight. I even use the switched wrist grip (don't know the actual name). Is this normal or should I be doing something to make the wrists/grip stronger?


What is the problem with your wrists? Im not sure why your wrist would hurt.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13036 Posts
July 06 2010 13:47 GMT
#1549
And you'll need a lot more than just a gallon of milk a day to put a decent amount of weight on a 6'8 frame.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
July 06 2010 13:57 GMT
#1550
On July 06 2010 17:52 Stormer wrote:
So I'm up to 96kg on the deadlift and my wrists are starting to hurt from the weight. I even use the switched wrist grip (don't know the actual name). Is this normal or should I be doing something to make the wrists/grip stronger?

errr...doesn't pain (as far as exercises are concerned) only occur in movements/positions where force is applied to bent wrists? that doesn't seem to be the case when you deadlift. so yeah i'm pretty confused @_@
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Noggin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 14:17:39
July 06 2010 14:06 GMT
#1551
On July 06 2010 22:47 RowdierBob wrote:
And you'll need a lot more than just a gallon of milk a day to put a decent amount of weight on a 6'8 frame.


So it IS more difficult?
:X

This is going to get wildly expensive


Creatine and protein mix are fairly cheap though... so I guess I'll just really sit down for a week or so and develop a huge freaking diet plan using info in this thread and see how to budget it effectively.

It'll be a fun project. :D



edit: found this article
http://www.stayfitbug.com/the-fitness-bug/building-muscles-for-tall-men-vs-building-muscles-for-short-men/
Which felt a bit bias but the comments seemed to back up the claims o.o
I guess the end result will be so worth it ^^
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13036 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 15:17:53
July 06 2010 15:13 GMT
#1552
On July 06 2010 23:06 Noggin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 22:47 RowdierBob wrote:
And you'll need a lot more than just a gallon of milk a day to put a decent amount of weight on a 6'8 frame.


So it IS more difficult?
:X

This is going to get wildly expensive


Creatine and protein mix are fairly cheap though... so I guess I'll just really sit down for a week or so and develop a huge freaking diet plan using info in this thread and see how to budget it effectively.

It'll be a fun project. :D



edit: found this article
http://www.stayfitbug.com/the-fitness-bug/building-muscles-for-tall-men-vs-building-muscles-for-short-men/
Which felt a bit bias but the comments seemed to back up the claims o.o
I guess the end result will be so worth it ^^


I've been in a similar boat to you, so here's what I've found to be good:
* Make your meals count: don't eat crappy empty carbs (processed food) and focus on quality proteins, fats and carbs. If you can't legitimately trace the food back to its original source, it most likely isn't so good for you.

* Food over supplements. Protein powders are OK in helping achieve weight gain, but they are no substitute for good quality food. I personally only use them on training days pre and post workout, but others in this thread may have better tips. As in point one, eat real, quality food first and foremost. Creatine in debatable, but personally I'd save your money and not bother with it.

* Learn how to cook (if you can't already). Eating healthy food is great for your body, but it is mostly bland and a bit depressing to eat all the time. I'm no hardcore lifter like many in this thread and I really enjoy my food. There are a lot of things you can still do to make healthy, but often bland food, taste good. If you enjoy what you're eating and not forcing yourself to eat, mealtime will be enjoyable and not a chore. It's also cheaper.

* Aim to eat six meals a day minimum. If you're trying to gain max weight, don't stress too much about what your eating (as long as it's real food) -- just keep feeding the engine.

edit: from earlier in the thread, this is generally what I eat on a daily basis to maintain around 87-90kgs.

Cereal
Milk (between 1.5-2 litres depending if it's a training day)
Footlong from Subway (try stick to the better ones)
100g tin of Tuna
Wholemeal english muffins with chesse/vegemite
Steak/Chicken with veg (dinner)
Fruits (depending on season)
Pancakes or french toast (I have a great, healthy, pancake recipe if anyone wants it).
About 3-3.5L water

But I'm no saint. I still love Pop Tarts and basically anything with copious amounts of sugar. It's fine to eat a bit of (tasty) crap every now and then; just don't overdo it.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Noggin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 15:34:07
July 06 2010 15:22 GMT
#1553
I think once I settle down I can revamp my lifestyle a bit and budget a bit for a 6+ meal a day diet.

Until then I will plan and research

thanks for the solid advice, sir~

edit after your edit: I would love your pancake recipe! :D
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13036 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 15:26:05
July 06 2010 15:25 GMT
#1554
oops.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Stormich
Profile Joined August 2003
Croatia336 Posts
July 06 2010 17:13 GMT
#1555
It hurt like it was being stretched appart, also my wrist tends to crack (the sound like when you crack your fingers) here and there. It's fine now it just hurt after the last 1x5 set (doing SS).
hi
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
July 06 2010 17:15 GMT
#1556
Does anyone know any good lower back stretches? I've gotten my abs strong enough to where it is only my lower back holding me back now Or maybe some techniques to not strain your lower back as much when doing abs?
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
Stormich
Profile Joined August 2003
Croatia336 Posts
July 06 2010 17:17 GMT
#1557
Ab wheel is good for core muscles, other than that deadlift is the best for lower back/core
hi
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 06 2010 19:14 GMT
#1558
On July 07 2010 02:15 zizou21 wrote:
Does anyone know any good lower back stretches? I've gotten my abs strong enough to where it is only my lower back holding me back now Or maybe some techniques to not strain your lower back as much when doing abs?


do reverse hyperextensions.... high rep
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 20:43:57
July 06 2010 20:40 GMT
#1559
FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU

i was just maxing cleans today, went for 120 and i slammed my wrist on my knee. Now I learned not to use straps when I clean. -__-

I hit a 1 kg pr with 116, went up easy too even with me cutting my pull....
fuck im so mad T_T
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by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
alicia458
Profile Joined July 2010
Philippines1 Post
July 06 2010 20:58 GMT
#1560
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