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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
July 02 2010 18:34 GMT
#1481
Bleh i'm like equal with you on everything except shoulder press, i can probably only put up around 170. Need to work on that a lot more.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-02 18:44:00
July 02 2010 18:43 GMT
#1482
You Power Clean more than me. 187 only right now, but I finally can train them again. Lots of potential left there. I clearly lack explosive power, after 4-5 sets for 3 reps at Power Cleans, I am done and cannot apply enough speed to the bar during the shrug.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
July 02 2010 19:59 GMT
#1483
On July 03 2010 02:55 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 02 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              03 2010 02      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:39 GunSec wrote:
On July 03 2010 02:19 unknown.sam wrote:
On July 02 2010 02:26 Malinor wrote:
On July 01 2010 23:49 unknown.sam wrote:


@malinor: what do you Press btw? i'm guessing around 135-150?


No, much more. I have done 165x5 2-3 months ago, not on the same level right now but close. I will max out in a few days and I can tell you my max-single.

based on this site (http://www.nsca-lift.org/fly solo program/onearm.asp) and your numbers, your 1RM was about 190lbs 2-3 months ago. so right now that would probably be closer to 200+ lbs. man that's heavy. i'd be pretty happy if i could reach 100+lbs lol (which happens to be my goal btw).

@st3roids: dude why so pessimistic? maybe you just need a hug eh?

@bosu: you definitely don't need creatine or protein powders if your a beginner/novice.

@gunsec: how can you have cramps right at the beginning?? that's pretty weird. how about you try brisk walking instead?


I think it's because I have not exercised for a while and is not used to exerting myself. I could actually jog a little bit more today, but still it's annoying to get stiff legs after jogging for only about 500 m. I could definitely try brisk walking but that looks a little bit embarassing XD. It could also be my shoes but I doubt it.



I cannot help you directly with that, but I've had a similar experience. When I started working out again after 2-3 years of doing nothing, whenever I did crunches/sit-ups I would get really bad cramps in my stomach area. In the beginning after some reps, but the more I trained the later I got any problems and by now they have completely vanished. However I did not push it, so basically the moment it startet to hurt just slighty I stopped.

So what I'm saying is that you are probably right and your body needs to adapt first. I assume you didn't have any major injuries in the past there?.
What I would do in your position is power walking the moment it starts hurting. I know it looks kinda embarrasing and is not much fun, but it could probably help you. It really should not take more than 1-2 weeks to adapt though.

And while I was talking about crunches, don't do them, they suck (unless you are a bodybuilder).


Yeah exactly, I also think my body has to adapt to the exercising and probably in a week or so I should be able to jog without any breaks. I'm bicycling a lot as well, and nope I have never had any injuries in my legs before but one thing that should be mentioned is that I'm flat footed. I don't know if that contributes to my cramping but I have basically solved that problem with arch support, I think. It sucks to be flat footed :/
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
July 02 2010 22:42 GMT
#1484
Fuck yeah i just picked up 455 pounds off the floor. Took everything i had shouting and yelling and about to explode but i picked that mother fucking weight off the ground. hell yes. time to go get hammered for the weekend.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-02 23:08:11
July 02 2010 23:07 GMT
#1485
nice job decaf!

Had my workout a couple hours ago. I am terrible at power cleans, i cut my pull way too much and my timing blows. Plus i my thumb is bothering me so i cant hook grip for awhile
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
July 03 2010 00:05 GMT
#1486
455 pound deadlift, that's serious. Grats!
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 03 2010 00:11 GMT
#1487
nice! i love the feeling of locking out a deadlift.

i hope by "hammered" you mean using the "hammer strength" machine!
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 03 2010 00:27 GMT
#1488
On July 03 2010 07:42 decafchicken wrote:
Fuck yeah i just picked up 455 pounds off the floor. Took everything i had shouting and yelling and about to explode but i picked that mother fucking weight off the ground. hell yes. time to go get hammered for the weekend.


Oh god, I love this feeling, granted for me it's only 365 at the moment. Congrats dude
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UberThing
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain410 Posts
July 03 2010 00:29 GMT
#1489
Man I am getting hench this summer!!!!
My aim this summer is to go from 65kg to 70kg.
Currenty I am eatin around 3000 calories a day and a 4 day a week hardcore gym plan.
You should see my biceps!!!
Will post pics if anyone wants
Wag1
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 03 2010 00:35 GMT
#1490
I sense a troll, unless you tell me you're really young and/or short? 140lbs just can't be associated with big biceps unless I'm mistaken.
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
July 03 2010 00:46 GMT
#1491
On July 03 2010 09:35 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
I sense a troll, unless you tell me you're really young and/or short? 140lbs just can't be associated with big biceps unless I'm mistaken.



what? You can can get big biceps at any weight.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
UberThing
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain410 Posts
July 03 2010 00:47 GMT
#1492
No troll intended ShaLLoW[baY]
Well im indian origin in uk you see and I used to be really skinny like 58kg 2 years ago. I always wanted to be big but never knew how. (This sounds strange now looking back)
Now I am 20 years so made a massive effort to get big in the last year so I am basically eating a hell of a lot and going gym. I must recommend this to anyone who is in the same bind as I was. My biceps arnt that huge( i was just kinda excited at posting) but I havnt much fat on me as I get big so the muscle growth is quite apparent. (I think this is called definition)
Any tips?
Wag1
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
July 03 2010 00:51 GMT
#1493
On July 03 2010 09:47 UberThing wrote:
No troll intended ShaLLoW[baY]
Well im indian origin in uk you see and I used to be really skinny like 58kg 2 years ago. I always wanted to be big but never knew how. (This sounds strange now looking back)
Now I am 20 years so made a massive effort to get big in the last year so I am basically eating a hell of a lot and going gym. I must recommend this to anyone who is in the same bind as I was. My biceps arnt that huge( i was just kinda excited at posting) but I havnt much fat on me as I get big so the muscle growth is quite apparent. (I think this is called definition)
Any tips?



what is your workout btw?
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
UberThing
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain410 Posts
July 03 2010 00:57 GMT
#1494
Basically i do 3 sessions.
1 Chest and arms
2 Legs
3 Shoulders and back
I do 1 then 2 then rest then 3 and 1 rest followed by 2 and 3 etc. Basically i get a rest every third day

Abs and cardio I do whenever i feel like, usually abs at least every 2 sessions and cardio is less than that.
Each one I do a variety of exercises, starting with the compound and big muscle groups. (Deadlifts, bench and squats)

What do you think AoN.DimSum?
Wag1
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 03 2010 01:38 GMT
#1495
On July 03 2010 09:57 UberThing wrote:
Basically i do 3 sessions.
1 Chest and arms
2 Legs
3 Shoulders and back
I do 1 then 2 then rest then 3 and 1 rest followed by 2 and 3 etc. Basically i get a rest every third day

Abs and cardio I do whenever i feel like, usually abs at least every 2 sessions and cardio is less than that.
Each one I do a variety of exercises, starting with the compound and big muscle groups. (Deadlifts, bench and squats)

What do you think AoN.DimSum?


you should do a full body routine like starting strength
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
UberThing
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain410 Posts
July 03 2010 01:58 GMT
#1496
On July 03 2010 10:38 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 09:57 UberThing wrote:
Basically i do 3 sessions.
1 Chest and arms
2 Legs
3 Shoulders and back
I do 1 then 2 then rest then 3 and 1 rest followed by 2 and 3 etc. Basically i get a rest every third day

Abs and cardio I do whenever i feel like, usually abs at least every 2 sessions and cardio is less than that.
Each one I do a variety of exercises, starting with the compound and big muscle groups. (Deadlifts, bench and squats)

What do you think AoN.DimSum?


you should do a full body routine like starting strength


What do you mean exactly by this exactly? I'm havnt come across this before
Wag1
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 00:14:01
July 03 2010 03:07 GMT
#1497
^ The info is on the first page. It's pretty good.

Just reporting that I recieved my Starting Strength manual today. It's really good. Expensive, but good. Possibly avoidable if you have a good trainer, but Rip goes into a nice amount of detail explaining logically why he wants certain exercises done a certain way.

The novice period stuff is confusing to me though. If I can't fulfill StartingStrength right now (ignoring why for the moment please), should I just not do much so that my gains are good ... or could I do a heavy cardio routine and count on switching to a weight lifting routine to disturb my body's rhythm?

edit: Goal is strength. It just might be significantly easier to fulfill the routine by time I return to school.

edit: Sweet. actually having no problems doing the bench. Need to find a regular partner to spot me, but using a machine (fucking impossible to get a proper grip with it/ no balance work -.-) now.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 03 2010 03:12 GMT
#1498
On July 03 2010 12:07 Sabu113 wrote:
^ The info is on the first page. It's pretty good.

Just reporting that I recieved my Starting Strength manual today. It's really good. Expensive, but good. Possibly avoidable if you have a good trainer, but Rip goes into a nice amount of detail explaining logically why he wants certain exercises done a certain way.

The novice period stuff is confusing to me though. If I can't fulfill StartingStrength right now (ignoring why for the moment please), should I just not do much so that my gains are good ... or could I do a heavy cardio routine and count on switching to a weight lifting routine to disturb my body's rhythm?


Uhhh what are your goals? Muscle mass? Strenght?
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13036 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 04:06:39
July 03 2010 04:06 GMT
#1499
Question regarding overhead -- I have massive problems with my shoulders in that the joints are quite loose and prone to subluxation. Ive done my left shoulder three times and right shoulder once. I probably need surgery to tighten the ligaments, but given I'm no elite athlete and I get by fine mostly it's hard to justify the cost.

I've been considering switching to using machines for overhead press as I'm really not very confident lifting heavier weight given my shoulder could give out (it has happened at the gym before).

Are the machines vastly inferior that I should persevere with free weights, or could I use machines and maybe supplement with some different should exercises?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
July 03 2010 08:29 GMT
#1500
^ from your description, the overhead press doesn't sound like an exercise you should be doing whether it be machine or free weights. i think you should err on the side of caution and go consult a doc before engaging in such exercises.

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