EPTTL Health and Fitness Initiative 2010 - Page 74
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4757 Posts
On July 02 2010 07:08 travis wrote: are joint problems really a sure thing with lifting heavy? I don't know of this. No. It's just a stupid myth. On the professional level, injuries in all sports are pretty common as you probably know. That's just mainly because these guys have to constantly test and expand their limits. But as a recreational 3xweek lifter who pays attention to exercise correctly, of course you won't ruin your joints, the body is capable of so much more without breaking down. It's like not playing soccer with your friends because you could tear your ligaments and tendons, who would do something like that? | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
What's the point of that story? Well after that time I really had no motivation to do anything, yet I managed to lose all that weight simply by enforcing habits. I still eat Pizza/Candy/Crisps all that unhealthy stuff, It's just that I do it once a month. I still eat large portions of food, I just eat fewer times a day. Nothing is banned and I never ate something I genuinly disliked. I now run(back then walk) a 45 minute route each day in my area. It used to take 1 hour and 8 minutes starting out. It takes about 2 weeks then you're into the habit and it gets much much easier. One of the absolute best tips I can give to anyone is grabb audiobooks, they are freaking magical when you are trying to lose those extra pounds, just make sure you only listen when you are doing your exercise if you're in a really intense place in the book it really makes you want to go out and take that round that day. I'm now fit enough to play in a lowerleague fotballteam (Soccer if you're from the crazy country) and it feels really great. So everyone trying to lose weight don't start by making huge commitments like gymcards or "I'm gonna follow this diet". Start out by making good healthy habits and move from there. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On July 02 2010 08:01 Malinor wrote: No. It's just a stupid myth. On the professional level, injuries in all sports are pretty common as you probably know. That's just mainly because these guys have to constantly test and expand their limits. But as a recreational 3xweek lifter who pays attention to exercise correctly, of course you won't ruin your joints, the body is capable of so much more without breaking down. It's like not playing soccer with your friends because you could tear your ligaments and tendons, who would do something like that? This is correct.... If you lift heavy too often it;s easy to develop overuse injuries... true. But if you take care to make proper progressions and progress you'll be fine. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
I like following fitness threads because it's a great way to get motivated, compare progress with others, and overall maintain a positive outlook on my goals as well as get advice when needed. You slammed on a guy doing crossfit. A guy asked how much he could run after work, and you responded by saying he's never gonna be a top tier marathon runner. And now you're killing people who want to lift heavier because they're never gonna be in the Olympics. We're all in this together and we all have different goals and different ways to get there, with the overall goal of looking better and being healthier. Please don't undermine anyone's achievements. | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On July 02 2010 08:50 eshlow wrote: But it will never just sneak up on you one day and go "Hello, I'm cronic joint pain", unless you have an accident. If you are doing something wrong your body will tell you distinctly "This isn't good, stop it" people that ignore that are the ones that end up with the joint pain.This is correct.... If you lift heavy too often it;s easy to develop overuse injuries... true. But if you take care to make proper progressions and progress you'll be fine. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20168 Posts
On July 02 2010 06:59 st3roids wrote: Sure so i guess u all gonna be competing into the olympics in 2012 then. Spare me with ambition thing lol ill be weight lift 18 years , thats more than some guys overall age here. Just a notice when ur back or ur joints will killing you some years after , come and tell me how ambitious u were , i call it ego u can call it as u like. ps it just a tip though just consider it a bit more than starting with the - im not opting for vanity and im ambitious to break the world record ps2 i lift for been healthy overall , none that likes to look good does this for 18 years Whats up with you? Got a problem with people setting healthy goals and achieving them? In 10 years when i'm still playing rugby and squatting 400+(by then 500, 600+) my joints will be fine and i will be happy i strived to be the best i can be. Fuck aesthetics. Functional strength leads to great aesthetics not the other way around. Deadlifting 455 tomorrow and the only thought running through my mind will be "you can do more than this...get stronger...don't be stopped by anything" | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On July 02 2010 09:52 Hynda wrote: But it will never just sneak up on you one day and go "Hello, I'm cronic joint pain", unless you have an accident. If you are doing something wrong your body will tell you distinctly "This isn't good, stop it" people that ignore that are the ones that end up with the joint pain. Absolutely true. Joints will tell you if they're being overworked by being sore. It's distinctly different from muscle soreness too. Also, travis I'll get to your post in a couple hours. I gotta go take a test. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On July 02 2010 03:06 travis wrote: so, lol it took forever but after being patient, my wrist felt at about 98% so i decided to give a workout a go today apparently it was a bad idea. it was going fine until planche. boom, i move into advanced tuck planche - ow, shit. have to get out right away cuz my wrist starts hurting immediately, i wouldn't be surprised if i set it back another week. currently icing it atm. so, i figure i'll just skip tommorrow, then do workouts but cut out planche work, it's really only that which seems to antagonize it also, eshlow, a question about gymnastic ratings. cuz i don't understand them. front lever is rated A, right? and so is back lever? does this make any sense? I have been training front lever for nearly a year and i have almost never trained back lever yet i am still a good ways away from front lever and i can pretty much do a full back lever(though with shitty form). i really don't understand that. oh, eshlow, another question i want to work on splits so i went to do exercise #1, here: http://members.fortunecity.com/tchb1/Splits.htm but.. even that is kinda intense for me. just getting in position at all where my hands could reach the ground like that it felt like it was kind of too intense, i was worried about pulling something. what should i do instead? maybe just do it but put blocks on the ground for my hands? Code of points: http://www.sendspace.com/file/rb0rg9 Back lever used to be a B skill but in 2004 it was changed to an A skill. the problem is that front lever is somewhere between the difficulty of cross and back lever... so you're going to have to group it with either A or B skills. Since peopel have gotten a lot stronger in the 90s and 00's now they decided to downgrade it to A. I'm writing a book atm on bodyweight strength progressions and I'm making a chart of "relative difficulty" which is going to be mucho useful. for splits, yeah use a chair or two or blocks/cushions/couch/whatever you need to so that you can ease yourself into it. | ||
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GunSec
1095 Posts
 . I weigh about 82 kg and I'm like 175 cm, I have been jogging 2.5 km 4 days in a row this week. But I have this muscle cramp in the beginning which cause me to walk most of the time :/ | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
On July 02 2010 02:26 Malinor wrote: No, much more. I have done 165x5 2-3 months ago, not on the same level right now but close. I will max out in a few days and I can tell you my max-single. based on this site (http://www.nsca-lift.org/fly solo program/onearm.asp) and your numbers, your 1RM was about 190lbs 2-3 months ago. so right now that would probably be closer to 200+ lbs. man that's heavy. i'd be pretty happy if i could reach 100+lbs lol (which happens to be my goal btw). @st3roids: dude why so pessimistic? maybe you just need a hug eh? @bosu: you definitely don't need creatine or protein powders if your a beginner/novice. @gunsec: how can you have cramps right at the beginning?? that's pretty weird. how about you try brisk walking instead? | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 02 2010 16:16 Bosu wrote: What do you guys think about creatine and/or protein powders? I have only been lifting for a few weeks and have just been eating more protein. Are there any reasons I shouldn't use it? Maybe it wouldn't be necessary at my low level. As a post-workout supplement, protein powder will benefit anyone. Just don't expect it to be a miracle product that'll blow your biceps up overnight, it's meant as a recovery aid, and can also be taken at intervals during the day to increase your protein intake. I know lots of friends of mine who think that if they start taking protein they'll be fuckin' h00j, without having to do the work to get there. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4757 Posts
On July 03 2010 02 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 03 2010 02 end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 03 2010 02 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:19 unknown.sam wrote: based on this site (http://www.nsca-lift.org/fly solo program/onearm.asp) and your numbers, your 1RM was about 190lbs 2-3 months ago. so right now that would probably be closer to 200+ lbs. man that's heavy. i'd be pretty happy if i could reach 100+lbs lol (which happens to be my goal btw). @st3roids: dude why so pessimistic? maybe you just need a hug eh? @bosu: you definitely don't need creatine or protein powders if your a beginner/novice. @gunsec: how can you have cramps right at the beginning?? that's pretty weird. how about you try brisk walking instead? This calculator is pretty decent. I maxed out today and did 190lb. My training was pretty disturbed with injureies and illness plus more endurance work, so I am pretty satisfied that I did not lose any strength at all. But 200lb seems like a good goal for the upcoming weeks. Of course it is heavy, but I'm probably a much bigger guy than you, so it's all relative. I have to say I think Overhead Press is much more fun than Bench Press. Tomorrow Deadlift, this will be interesting. | ||
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GunSec
1095 Posts
On July 03 2010 02:19 unknown.sam wrote: based on this site (http://www.nsca-lift.org/fly solo program/onearm.asp) and your numbers, your 1RM was about 190lbs 2-3 months ago. so right now that would probably be closer to 200+ lbs. man that's heavy. i'd be pretty happy if i could reach 100+lbs lol (which happens to be my goal btw). @st3roids: dude why so pessimistic? maybe you just need a hug eh? @bosu: you definitely don't need creatine or protein powders if your a beginner/novice. @gunsec: how can you have cramps right at the beginning?? that's pretty weird. how about you try brisk walking instead? I think it's because I have not exercised for a while and is not used to exerting myself. I could actually jog a little bit more today, but still it's annoying to get stiff legs after jogging for only about 500 m. I could definitely try brisk walking but that looks a little bit embarassing XD. It could also be my shoes but I doubt it. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4757 Posts
On July 03 2010 02 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 03 2010 02 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:39 GunSec wrote: I think it's because I have not exercised for a while and is not used to exerting myself. I could actually jog a little bit more today, but still it's annoying to get stiff legs after jogging for only about 500 m. I could definitely try brisk walking but that looks a little bit embarassing XD. It could also be my shoes but I doubt it. I cannot help you directly with that, but I've had a similar experience. When I started working out again after 2-3 years of doing nothing, whenever I did crunches/sit-ups I would get really bad cramps in my stomach area. In the beginning after some reps, but the more I trained the later I got any problems and by now they have completely vanished. However I did not push it, so basically the moment it startet to hurt just slighty I stopped. So what I'm saying is that you are probably right and your body needs to adapt first. I assume you didn't have any major injuries in the past there?. What I would do in your position is power walking the moment it starts hurting. I know it looks kinda embarrasing and is not much fun, but it could probably help you. It really should not take more than 1-2 weeks to adapt though. And while I was talking about crunches, don't do them, they suck (unless you are a bodybuilder). | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
On July 03 2010 02:36 Malinor wrote: Oh you beat me to it. This calculator is pretty decent. I maxed out today and did 190lb. My training was pretty disturbed with injureies and illness plus more endurance work, so I am pretty satisfied that I did not lose any strength at all. But 200lb seems like a good goal for the upcoming weeks. Of course it is heavy, but I'm probably a much bigger guy than you, so it's all relative. I have to say I think Overhead Press is much more fun than Bench Press. Tomorrow Deadlift, this will be interesting. yeah overhead presses are more fun and functional than benching, not to mention they're safer too. btw, how much do you weigh? based on your 190, i'm guessing you're around 220-260lbs?? | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On July 02 2010 16:16 Bosu wrote: What do you guys think about creatine and/or protein powders? I have only been lifting for a few weeks and have just been eating more protein. Are there any reasons I shouldn't use it? Maybe it wouldn't be necessary at my low level. Creatine is dirt cheap. You can get a tub of micronized German creatine for $28, and it'll last you for years. It's definitely worth trying at that price point, because it shouldn't cost you much. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4757 Posts
On July 03 2010 02 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 03 2010 02 end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 03 2010 02 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:56 unknown.sam wrote: yeah overhead presses are more fun and functional than benching, not to mention they're safer too. btw, how much do you weigh? based on your 190, i'm guessing you're around 220-260lbs?? I don't weigh myself anymore because I hate it when the scale determines my mood. But from expierence, 260lb should be pretty accurate. My goal is basically to stay as strong as I am now while dropping to ~220lb. I look pretty good at that weight (of course by no means ripped, but that is not important to me), and 220 is my goal until march. | ||
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