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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 15:03:21
October 14 2010 15:01 GMT
#3001
On October 14 2010 23:52 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 22:43 decafchicken wrote:
On October 14 2010 15:20 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Ugh, I'm starting to develop a real love/hate relationship with my genetics. You see, if I cut down now--maybe 1-2 months from now--I would look really good. I have a large amount of muscle mass throughout my body. My biceps are 17" (not fatceps), my chest 47", and my waist is currently 34" thanks to this milk/creatine/rice bloat.

I look like I should be moving a lot of weight, but I can't. Guys half my size bench more, squat more, and dead more than me. I just don't understand; I'm big and I'm solid, but I'm as weak as a little girl.


That's how dimsum makes me feel so light yet so beastly.


How much does Dimsum squats O,o?

Something like 350 at 150 bodyweight iirc
Also, he could probably pick me up and throw me out the roof
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 15:04:56
October 14 2010 15:04 GMT
#3002
phyre:

you shouldn't work through pain.

Where does it hurt? What movements hurt?
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
October 14 2010 15:58 GMT
#3003
Im not working throuh pain - even though i feel better when i do squats, i took the day off from them, as well as deadlifts and anything else that could utilize my legs. I've had a bad knee for about six years now, ever since growth spurts back around 13/14 years old. Its only running and dancing and jumping that bother it.

As far as where it bothers me... everywhere? Its a general stiffness throuhout my knee, a sharp pain directly under the knee cap, a soreness both at the top of the tibia and in my quadriceps muscle (so above and below the knee) and a deep ache in the entire back of my knee. Massages help the ache and the quadricep, but other than that i just have to stay off it as muh as i can, and wait for it to subside. Its something i really should have gone to visit a doctor for years ago, but just never got around to.
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
October 14 2010 16:28 GMT
#3004
On October 15 2010 00:01 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 23:52 funkie wrote:
On October 14 2010 22:43 decafchicken wrote:
On October 14 2010 15:20 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Ugh, I'm starting to develop a real love/hate relationship with my genetics. You see, if I cut down now--maybe 1-2 months from now--I would look really good. I have a large amount of muscle mass throughout my body. My biceps are 17" (not fatceps), my chest 47", and my waist is currently 34" thanks to this milk/creatine/rice bloat.

I look like I should be moving a lot of weight, but I can't. Guys half my size bench more, squat more, and dead more than me. I just don't understand; I'm big and I'm solid, but I'm as weak as a little girl.


That's how dimsum makes me feel so light yet so beastly.


How much does Dimsum squats O,o?

Something like 350 at 150 bodyweight iirc
Also, he could probably pick me up and throw me out the roof

yeah dim is a beast.

@dim: btw, how long have you been lifting??
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 16:44:42
October 14 2010 16:35 GMT
#3005
thanks haha

I have been olympic weightlifting for maybe like 15-17 months. But I have been in the gym since I was 16 doing random stuff and im 21 right now.

btw uploading world weightlifitng championships to rutgers youtube account, it will be easier to access than the cctv website.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 19:54:31
October 14 2010 19:49 GMT
#3006
As a random offside, a trainer at my school who works primarily with 'combat athletes' (military members and mma fighters) has a website, http://www.combattrainingsystems.com, if any of you want to check it out for some politically incorrect ranting :p
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
October 14 2010 20:03 GMT
#3007
On October 15 2010 04:49 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
As a random offside, a trainer at my school who works primarily with 'combat athletes' (military members and mma fighters) has a website, http://www.combattrainingsystems.com, if any of you want to check it out for some politically incorrect ranting :p


Imma print his article on CrossFit and read it all the way. It seems he has a really good stance on the subject. Thanks for sharing!
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 23:50:14
October 14 2010 23:49 GMT
#3008
So i've had trouble with a pinched nerve in my C4 but its usually not too bad. Today just messing around in practice my buddy pushed my shoulder and i hit the deck as half my arm lit on fire and went numb. Not good T_T Guess ill try to make all my tackles on my right shoulder for saturday

Any lifts/stretches/etc i should be doing?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
October 15 2010 01:18 GMT
#3009
On October 15 2010 08:49 decafchicken wrote:
So i've had trouble with a pinched nerve in my C4 but its usually not too bad. Today just messing around in practice my buddy pushed my shoulder and i hit the deck as half my arm lit on fire and went numb. Not good T_T Guess ill try to make all my tackles on my right shoulder for saturday

Any lifts/stretches/etc i should be doing?


I forgot to thank you. You (a while back) gave me some info about strained adductor. and It helped me tons with my pain (back in those days). And I have it again, it hopefully works and I will thank you again if it does .

CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
October 15 2010 01:44 GMT
#3010
On October 15 2010 04:49 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
As a random offside, a trainer at my school who works primarily with 'combat athletes' (military members and mma fighters) has a website, http://www.combattrainingsystems.com, if any of you want to check it out for some politically incorrect ranting :p


i read his article, and am kinda concerned about something he mentions in the last bit..

Another issue that I have found with CrossFit style of training is the lack of individualization. If you train in a large group, then CrossFit works great. BUT if you train by yourself or with a partner and are looking for the fastest gains, then the programs MUST be individualized. Take the example of someone in anterior pelvic tilt (which seems to be most people nowadays). If most of the workouts prescribed involve squats, deadlifts and presses, chances are the pelvis will remain in anterior pelvic tilt. Prolonged exposure to these type of exercises while in anterior pelvic tilt will inevitably lead to back problems. Not surprisingly, I get alot of ex-CrossFitters that needed to stop because of back troubles. Please realize that I did analyze their techniques for all the lifts and it was great. The problem was that each one of them was in anterior pelvic tilt.


???squats deadlifting and press will give you back problems if in "anterior pelvic tilt" even if you use good form.??? Can some1 knowledgeable on the subject explain more about this? I THINK anterior pelvic tilt has something to do with sitting too long and having tight hip muscles, but thats a guess.
aka DragOn[NaS]
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
October 15 2010 02:19 GMT
#3011
On October 15 2010 10:44 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 04:49 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
As a random offside, a trainer at my school who works primarily with 'combat athletes' (military members and mma fighters) has a website, http://www.combattrainingsystems.com, if any of you want to check it out for some politically incorrect ranting :p


i read his article, and am kinda concerned about something he mentions in the last bit..

Show nested quote +
Another issue that I have found with CrossFit style of training is the lack of individualization. If you train in a large group, then CrossFit works great. BUT if you train by yourself or with a partner and are looking for the fastest gains, then the programs MUST be individualized. Take the example of someone in anterior pelvic tilt (which seems to be most people nowadays). If most of the workouts prescribed involve squats, deadlifts and presses, chances are the pelvis will remain in anterior pelvic tilt. Prolonged exposure to these type of exercises while in anterior pelvic tilt will inevitably lead to back problems. Not surprisingly, I get alot of ex-CrossFitters that needed to stop because of back troubles. Please realize that I did analyze their techniques for all the lifts and it was great. The problem was that each one of them was in anterior pelvic tilt.


???squats deadlifting and press will give you back problems if in "anterior pelvic tilt" even if you use good form.??? Can some1 knowledgeable on the subject explain more about this? I THINK anterior pelvic tilt has something to do with sitting too long and having tight hip muscles, but thats a guess.


From what I remember from one of his lectures, it's exactly that. If you sit for long periods of time (aka, everyone), your hip flexors effectively shorten. Try standing up relaxed, and then push your hips forward like you're humping the air, you'll notice that your hip flexors are probably pretty tight.

At least, that's how I remember him explaining it; doing hip flexor flexibility work helps.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
October 15 2010 05:56 GMT
#3012
Just bought $200 worth of food and starting back at the gym tomorrow (fending off a cold atm, stupid American food killed my immune system).

So excited to get back into it!
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
October 15 2010 13:30 GMT
#3013
On October 15 2010 14:56 Energies wrote:
Just bought $200 worth of food and starting back at the gym tomorrow (fending off a cold atm, stupid American food killed my immune system).

So excited to get back into it!


Vitamin D man...
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
October 15 2010 14:13 GMT
#3014
On October 15 2010 11:19 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 10:44 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
On October 15 2010 04:49 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
As a random offside, a trainer at my school who works primarily with 'combat athletes' (military members and mma fighters) has a website, http://www.combattrainingsystems.com, if any of you want to check it out for some politically incorrect ranting :p


i read his article, and am kinda concerned about something he mentions in the last bit..

Another issue that I have found with CrossFit style of training is the lack of individualization. If you train in a large group, then CrossFit works great. BUT if you train by yourself or with a partner and are looking for the fastest gains, then the programs MUST be individualized. Take the example of someone in anterior pelvic tilt (which seems to be most people nowadays). If most of the workouts prescribed involve squats, deadlifts and presses, chances are the pelvis will remain in anterior pelvic tilt. Prolonged exposure to these type of exercises while in anterior pelvic tilt will inevitably lead to back problems. Not surprisingly, I get alot of ex-CrossFitters that needed to stop because of back troubles. Please realize that I did analyze their techniques for all the lifts and it was great. The problem was that each one of them was in anterior pelvic tilt.


???squats deadlifting and press will give you back problems if in "anterior pelvic tilt" even if you use good form.??? Can some1 knowledgeable on the subject explain more about this? I THINK anterior pelvic tilt has something to do with sitting too long and having tight hip muscles, but thats a guess.


From what I remember from one of his lectures, it's exactly that. If you sit for long periods of time (aka, everyone), your hip flexors effectively shorten. Try standing up relaxed, and then push your hips forward like you're humping the air, you'll notice that your hip flexors are probably pretty tight.

At least, that's how I remember him explaining it; doing hip flexor flexibility work helps.


'Specially those of us int he classroom a lot or desk jobs.

Gotta get up every so often and stretch
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
October 15 2010 22:36 GMT
#3015
I've been browsing this thread, but its a bit overwhelming wondering if I can get some help.

Currently weigh in at a staggering 145lbs (64.7kg).

I need to gain 10lbs (4.5kg) in 3-4 weeks. I know it's nearly impossible, but need to gain as much weight as possible. I started to try and gain weight about a month ago. Went to GNC for some whey protein and other body building stuff. I read up a bit on what to look for beforehand and the guy there was helpful and helped me make up a workout schedule.

Been doing it now for a month and haven't gained ANY weight. My body does feel denser and I do feel stronger, but no weight gain.

My current "program" consists of taking 1 scoop of whey protein with milk after breakfast. Breakfast is usually 4 eggs and 4 pieces of toast.

After an hour wait I go to the gym and do a full body workout. I avoid running because I hate it, but try to do it at least once a week.

Immediately after the workout I take 2 scoops "AMP Amplified Mass XXX" (105g) with milk.

Have lunch which is usually chicken, fish, or steak and then dinner later on which is the usually the same. Side dishes vary from beans, rich, and veggies. I snack here and there to take more food in, but not really that much. Before I go to sleep I take another two scoops of the AMP stuff with milk.

I've been reading up and from what I've found I'm suppose to double the amount of whey protein after 2-3 weeks if my strength is about the same. I feel stronger, but not heavier so not sure if I should proceed in doing that. I know your suppose to take .7g of protein for every pound you weigh.

Any recommendations? I'm pretty much open to anything right now and am willing to switch up my schedule entirely.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
October 15 2010 22:45 GMT
#3016
Won't be going to the gym today.

I didn't eat well at all due to this (Just got mugged.) and I'm feeling pretty weak right now.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-15 23:05:17
October 15 2010 23:02 GMT
#3017
don't let it bother u man. stuff happens, don't see why u should let getting mugged hold any special significance


bugzitooni:


eating more protein does not make u gain weight. eating more calories makes you gain weight. eat more calories. A LOT more.
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
October 16 2010 02:14 GMT
#3018
I need to gain 10lbs (4.5kg) in 3-4 weeks. I know it's nearly impossible, but need to gain as much weight as possible. I started to try and gain weight about a month ago. Went to GNC for some whey protein and other body building stuff. I read up a bit on what to look for beforehand and the guy there was helpful and helped me make up a workout schedule.

Been doing it now for a month and haven't gained ANY weight. My body does feel denser and I do feel stronger, but no weight gain.

My current "program" consists of taking 1 scoop of whey protein with milk after breakfast. Breakfast is usually 4 eggs and 4 pieces of toast.

After an hour wait I go to the gym and do a full body workout. I avoid running because I hate it, but try to do it at least once a week.

Immediately after the workout I take 2 scoops "AMP Amplified Mass XXX" (105g) with milk.

Have lunch which is usually chicken, fish, or steak and then dinner later on which is the usually the same. Side dishes vary from beans, rich, and veggies. I snack here and there to take more food in, but not really that much. Before I go to sleep I take another two scoops of the AMP stuff with milk.

I've been reading up and from what I've found I'm suppose to double the amount of whey protein after 2-3 weeks if my strength is about the same. I feel stronger, but not heavier so not sure if I should proceed in doing that. I know your suppose to take .7g of protein for every pound you weigh.

Any recommendations? I'm pretty much open to anything right now and am willing to switch up my schedule entirely.


The OP has information on this, but I'll give it to you here anyway: Starting Strength and a gallon of whole milk a day. Go look Starting Strength wiki up on Google.

If you follow the program right (that means to the letter), and drink your gallon of milk a day, you'll gain 10-15 pounds in a couple of weeks.

The problem with people at GNC and other trainers is that they suck at what they do. Increasing the weight "based on feeling" is a terrible concept for a novice, as you should be increasing your weight sessionly, even if you feel like it'll be too heavy. You'll surprise yourself at times... last Tuesday I bench pressed 88kg x 5 x 3, and I felt it was really heavy. That Sunday, I bench pressed 90kg x 5 x 3, keeping my 2kg/session increases, and it was a joke. The point here is that if you push your body to grow, and you take in enough calories, you will hit your strength and muscle gain goals.

Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
October 16 2010 02:23 GMT
#3019
On October 15 2010 22:30 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 14:56 Energies wrote:
Just bought $200 worth of food and starting back at the gym tomorrow (fending off a cold atm, stupid American food killed my immune system).

So excited to get back into it!


Vitamin D man...


Have been taking 10,000iu a day for the last 5-6 days. I think I'd be dead otherwise.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
October 16 2010 02:23 GMT
#3020
BuGzlToOnl:

Starting Strength + milk

Don't waste money on supps when you can buy milk and other high calorically dense foods.
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