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Josh_rakoons
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Womwomwom
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Josh_rakoons
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Radeon 7950 i5 2500k 4.5 ghz (will be overclocking further soon) This is sc2 btw. | ||
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Womwomwom
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\/\/\/\/\/ Are you sure because 60 FPS is awfully specific (in a way extremely unspecific because when do you get 60 FPS? 60FPS in late game battles is perfectly normal for instance). You should not expect high FPS in late game battles; in the early game, you should be well past 100 FPS. Check your drivers and turn off anything that may override ingame settings. This includes antialiasing settings. | ||
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
Anti aliasing settings : http://i.imgur.com/fi6EM.jpg All drivers i believe are up-to-date. | ||
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Josh_rakoons
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And about 30 in big-ingame 1v1 battles. | ||
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JingleHell
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On April 01 2012 01:21 Josh_rakoons wrote: Although this didnt turn out as "simple" as i thought it would, i would greatly appreciate some help. Well, you could try getting an LGA 2011 i7 CPU, disabling HT, running a custom loop with dual 360mm rads, and OCing to 6Ghz or so, that might let you get 60+ FPS in SC2 under nearly all reasonable circumstances... otherwise, worry about games that weren't optimized by rabid chipmunks to only utilize 2 threads, despite eating CPUs like a silicon based Jabba the Hutt. | ||
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maareek
United States2042 Posts
7950 is a strong card, but Extreme settings in a large battle on a large screen takes a stiff toll. Still, you should probably be seeing more than 30fps in 1v1 battles (though I definitely wouldn't count on doubling that), so double check the cleanliness of your rig, double check the drivers and then give us all the information you can about the rig if those things don't help. Still, running SC2 at 60+ FPS at Extreme off a single GPU card seems unlikely in actual gaming situations. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On April 01 2012 01:42 maareek wrote:+ Show Spoiler + What's your resolution? Have you made sure all the parts of your computer are clean? Do you have any issues like stuttering or the like or is it just the fps drop? 7950 is a strong card, but Extreme settings in a large battle on a large screen takes a stiff toll. Still, you should probably be seeing more than 30fps in 1v1 battles (though I definitely wouldn't count on doubling that), so double check the cleanliness of your rig, double check the drivers and then give us all the information you can about the rig if those things don't help. Still, running SC2 at 60+ FPS at Extreme off a single GPU card seems unlikely in actual gaming situations. Spoilered for bad advice. You should be letting the grown-ups talk. SC2 is incredibly CPU limited on 99% of rigs. http://www.techspot.com/review/305-starcraft2-performance/page10.html As you can see, GPU stops making a difference, even at extreme resolution and Ultra settings, quite early. The issue is that the game is "optimized" to only use two threads, despite being incredibly CPU intensive. RAM also makes little to no discernible difference. All you can really do is OC higher. Which may or may not be viable depending on your rig and CPU. The best you can do is be sure you're not running into CPU related heat issues, and make sure no other CPU intensive tasks are cutting into your performance. There could be GPU driver issues, but the hardware itself is fine. And going multi-GPU doesn't fix driver issues for new hardware or new games, it exacerbates them. | ||
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maareek
United States2042 Posts
On April 01 2012 01:49 JingleHell wrote: Spoilered for bad advice. You should be letting the grown-ups talk. SC2 is incredibly CPU limited on 99% of rigs. http://www.techspot.com/review/305-starcraft2-performance/page10.html As you can see, GPU stops making a difference, even at extreme resolution and Ultra settings, quite early. The issue is that the game is "optimized" to only use two threads, despite being incredibly CPU intensive. RAM also makes little to no discernible difference. All you can really do is OC higher. Which may or may not be viable depending on your rig and CPU. Thanks for the heads up, and for at least adding in some numbers instead of just calling me an idiot. Now maybe the OP will understand your previous post instead of just thinking you were being mean to him. Edit @ below: lol. Angry devourer? Now that sounds scary. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On April 01 2012 01:55 maareek wrote: Thanks for the heads up, and for at least adding in some numbers instead of just calling me an idiot. Now maybe the OP will understand your previous post instead of just thinking you were being mean to him. Oh no, it's easy to tell when I'm being mean, as my icon changes to match the red text that shows up in the post. Or at least, that's the typical precedent. No, lockdown. When I cross the fine line between sarcasm that gets people's attention and being cruel, I have a tendency to do it efficiently enough to get in trouble. I've discovered that sarcasm makes people want to follow the links to look for proof I'm wrong, where just posting information politely has a tendency to make them stick with what they originally said. Get the hackles raised a bit and they actually look at what you posted more clearly, as a rule. | ||
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xasuma
Chile62 Posts
I bought some new parts for my computer about a little over a week ago. I got a blue screen about 3 days ago. And now I got a bunch this morning, it said that there was a problem with the disk and needed to be checked. Everytime it went to check it, came back to blue screen , so i cancelled that checking and now i am here . I figured my power supply is too small and a new one it s on its way. Also they blue screen keeps telling me to check tht every new hardware was installed properly. How would I know if something its wrong? I barely knew how to put it together..  All the fans are running good, but the light that is usually on the motherboard its not on. I installed new motherboard, new cpu, added another ddr3 ram. and new graphics card. I know the power supply doesnt go with the miniumum of my graphics card at least. do you guys think that should be it ? Or could something else be wrong? | ||
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
running a Noctua NH-D14. I imagine this is a driver issue, but after several releases of the "new and improved" drivers, i'm rather sceptical. | ||
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JingleHell
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On April 01 2012 02:00 xasuma wrote: Hi guys i need some help. I bought some new parts for my computer about a little over a week ago. I got a blue screen about 3 days ago. And now I got a bunch this morning, it said that there was a problem with the disk and needed to be checked. Everytime it went to check it, came back to blue screen , so i cancelled that checking and now i am here . I figured my power supply is too small and a new one it s on its way. Also they blue screen keeps telling me to check tht every new hardware was installed properly. How would I know if something its wrong? I barely knew how to put it together.. All the fans are running good, but the light that is usually on the motherboard its not on. I installed new motherboard, new cpu, added another ddr3 ram. and new graphics card. I know the power supply doesnt go with the miniumum of my graphics card at least. do you guys think that should be it ? Or could something else be wrong? Sounds like HDD issues, to me. Did you by any chance try to stick the HDD in with the new hardware without re-installing windows? Chipset drivers can get pissy with that. Power supply tends to crash hard, not bluescreen. On April 01 2012 02:01 Josh_rakoons wrote: My load temps are nowhere near throttling - CPU - ~60C (intelburntest) GPU - ~70C (Max furmark) running a Noctua NH-D14. I imagine this is a driver issue, but after several releases of the "new and improved" drivers, i'm rather sceptical. To test if it's a driver issue, watch a replay from first person POV at max settings, watch your framerate, then lower GPU graphics settings a good bit and watch the same replay, same POV, and watch framerate at the same time points. If FPS goes up, it's GPU related and probably just shit drivers. If it stays put, it's probably CPU related. | ||
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xasuma
Chile62 Posts
Should I? :o Also my motherboard came with a cable for Sata 3.0 that i did not use. I kept using the old one tht was attatched to my HDD. I think it was sata 2.0 maybe . Update it is a HJK sata 6gb/s and they are two, they have different plugs, to like fit the HDD probably. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On April 01 2012 02:10 xasuma wrote: I didn't do anything with the HDD. I just left it there and plugged it to the new motherboard. I did not install windows again nor anything like that. Should I? :o Also my motherboard came with a cable for Sata 3.0 that i did not use. I kept using the old one tht was attatched to my HDD. I think it was sata 2.0 maybe . Yes, you should generally reinstall windows when you install a new motherboard, and then install your chipset drivers. As it turns out, your OS and hardware need to be able to communicate with each other for the magic box to work properly. Nobody has found a reason yet, we think it may be related to the phases of the moon. | ||
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
These drivers are also fucking shit for overclocking, experience game crashes and huge fps drops when temps are fine. | ||
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JingleHell
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On April 01 2012 02:13 Josh_rakoons wrote: Ok, well then its definitely drivers. thanks very much, JingleHell. These drivers are also fucking shit for overclocking, experience game crashes and huge fps drops when temps are fine. That may be voltage related, but yes, drivers for new architectures and games tend to be horrendous across the board lately. Last year when DA2 released, you couldn't max it with Nvidia cards for a few months. SLI 460s @825, which is enough to Vsync it at 60+ fully maxed now, 1080p, couldn't run above 4x AF and 2xAA with the high-res textures at ultra without dropping to a slideshow, for months. | ||
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