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Medrea
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JingleHell
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On March 31 2012 05:22 Medrea wrote: Oh its a laptop too. Fuck that shit. I already dont touch those with 10 ft polls. Yeah, laptops... ugh. A million times more frustrating than desktops. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:22 Medrea wrote: Oh its a laptop too. Fuck that shit. I already dont touch those with 10 ft polls. It's not so bad. Due to moving around in college and going from campus to home I've been using a laptop exclusively for the last four and a half years. I've had two high end HPs now, and despite the fact that the first one literally fell apart, heat issues are the only problems I've had on the second; actually pretty happy with it. Granted now that I'm done with college I'd much rather have a desktop again like I used to, but unfortunatly buying things requires money so.... -edit: also I can play Civ V while laying in bed, which is like infinate win; laptop just needs to be on something flat to avoid frying... | ||
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Medrea
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Im surprised you had the battery power to type that whole paragraph. | ||
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SoulWager
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Jaso
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What do you guys think of this? With a coupon it gets down to $209.49, which seems like a great deal for a 240gb SSD.. I'm just wondering if there's any problems with OCZ I should be concerned about. | ||
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skyR
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Jaso
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skyR
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
I'll just wait until the day 256GB SSDs cost $150. :D | ||
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phar
United States1080 Posts
On March 31 2012 01:48 JingleHell wrote:http://jinglehelltech.blogspot.com/2011/10/anti-aliasing-gpu-murder-justified-or.html Not to pimp my own blog, but pictures are needed to really explain it, and I covered the AA topic there once. It's enough information that the link is easier. Not at all, thanks for the link. More information is always helpful. I'll revisit the budget-to-hit-60-fps again later I suppose. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On March 31 2012 11:00 phar wrote: Not at all, thanks for the link. More information is always helpful. I'll revisit the budget-to-hit-60-fps again later I suppose. I'd assume that the pictures make it much easier to understand why most of our regulars don't suggest spending the large piles of extra cash needed to max games completely? The difference is minimal enough in a screenshot, and at 60 FPS, it's really hard to see even if you know what you're looking for, unless your pixel density is terrible. Given that maxing AA tends to cost $300+ more (including PSU and better motherboard if you go SLI midrange cards, or just a lot more on a single GPU), most people who are at all concerned about cost-effectiveness should be aiming at the high-maxed with no to minimal AA range. | ||
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Medrea
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JingleHell
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On March 31 2012 12:17 Medrea wrote: Anti-aliasing also diminishes. Visual impact from 0x to 2x is way higher than 4x to 8x. So if I do AA its usually the first setting. I go as high as I can Vsync to 60+. But then, I'm using a bad pixel density, and enjoy doing crazy shit. | ||
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Medrea
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I dont want 120 FPS. I just dont want to have to choose between tearing at 62 FPS or 30 FPS. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On March 31 2012 12:42 Medrea wrote: I hate vsync, and the horrors it can cause of maintaining a good framerate. And also what it does to visual latency. I hope to one day get a 120hz monitor so I can be free from the tyranny that is vsync. I dont want 120 FPS. I just dont want to have to choose between tearing at 62 FPS or 30 FPS. Yeah, I know the feeling. You either can't come close to maxing demanding games, or you tear like hell in a lot of them. But then, Vsync may be an imperfect solution, but it beats the problem, hands down. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Or do computer hardware reviewers not know how to do anything other than run canned benchmarks and report the fps or some type of score or time? | ||
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Medrea
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On March 31 2012 12:51 JingleHell wrote: Yeah, I know the feeling. You either can't come close to maxing demanding games, or you tear like hell in a lot of them. But then, Vsync may be an imperfect solution, but it beats the problem, hands down. And trying to mine from the spare resources of a program with Vsync activated is impossible sometimes. The miner will see your card is taxiing until the next frame and try to dynamically adjust the intensity of the formula, but then the next frame comes and its GOGOGOGO time in gameland again but the miner needs time to go up or down. Don't even get me started on RAGE by iD. That shit is hilarious because Rage ALSO dynamically allocates resources based on how much is available so both the miner and the rage engine fight for who can be the least busy. You basically cant vsync a game while mining. This is not a problem in a game like SC2, which is implemented quite well, the tearing is not bad at all. But games like Mass Effect 3 is just a slap in the face. When you disable Vsync in ME3, you hit a hard cap of 62. Obviously at 62 FPS you get worst case scenario tearing and splitting. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On March 31 2012 12:59 Myrmidon wrote: Did any of the GTX 680 reviews actually really look at the adaptive virtual VSync? Anybody actually review that newer Lucid VSync-related stuff (that apparently works on Z68 motherboards today) yet, that probably doesn't really work some or all of the time? Or do computer hardware reviewers not know how to do anything other than run canned benchmarks and report the fps or some type of score or time? Yes, PCPer and HWC did, I'm sure there's others as well. | ||
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phar
United States1080 Posts
On March 31 2012 12:01 JingleHell wrote:I'd assume that the pictures make it much easier to understand why most of our regulars don't suggest spending the large piles of extra cash needed to max games completely? The difference is minimal enough in a screenshot, and at 60 FPS, it's really hard to see even if you know what you're looking for, unless your pixel density is terrible. Given that maxing AA tends to cost $300+ more (including PSU and better motherboard if you go SLI midrange cards, or just a lot more on a single GPU), most people who are at all concerned about cost-effectiveness should be aiming at the high-maxed with no to minimal AA range. Yes, you have answered the AA question fully. I will come back when benchmarks & prices are out closer to the time I'll actually be buying. | ||
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