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Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
July 24 2025 11:51 GMT
#161
On July 24 2025 18:05 johnnyh123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2025 16:04 MJG wrote:
On July 24 2025 16:02 Optimus Prime2 wrote:
On July 24 2025 04:55 Balnazza wrote:
On July 24 2025 04:28 Optimus Prime2 wrote:
On July 23 2025 22:42 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote:


Ball is at OP's court, show some actual proof. Show the receipts. Not just throw bs claims without any basis.

Sure i can't and nobody other than Tastless himself can. Thats why transparency is must have thing here. If Tasteless is doing things right, he have no problem to show how he spreads this money.


So you sit there with your dick in your hand and have squat...which is already rounded up. Just to repeat myself: "Staggeringly unhelpful"

what you say here is useless fanboy advocating, with no facts yourself on tasteless's transparencys , you jumping around and yelling abouts proofs.

The onus is on the accuser to bring proof.


I tend to agree with this.

But this is mostly healthy behavior, to bring things to the attention of the community.



Healthy behavior when the guy has 29 post 24 trying to create drama out of thin air and 5 responding to match fixing drama
Yep seems very healthy to me
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25568 Posts
July 24 2025 13:02 GMT
#162
On July 24 2025 18:05 johnnyh123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2025 16:04 MJG wrote:
On July 24 2025 16:02 Optimus Prime2 wrote:
On July 24 2025 04:55 Balnazza wrote:
On July 24 2025 04:28 Optimus Prime2 wrote:
On July 23 2025 22:42 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote:


Ball is at OP's court, show some actual proof. Show the receipts. Not just throw bs claims without any basis.

Sure i can't and nobody other than Tastless himself can. Thats why transparency is must have thing here. If Tasteless is doing things right, he have no problem to show how he spreads this money.


So you sit there with your dick in your hand and have squat...which is already rounded up. Just to repeat myself: "Staggeringly unhelpful"

what you say here is useless fanboy advocating, with no facts yourself on tasteless's transparencys , you jumping around and yelling abouts proofs.

The onus is on the accuser to bring proof.


I tend to agree with this.

But this is mostly healthy behavior, to bring things to the attention of the community.

Healthy behaviour would be, well not what OP is doing.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
July 24 2025 16:32 GMT
#163
I guess at least he is keeping his topic alive, otherwise it would go down just as I predicted:

RSL/Tasteless can just wait a week or two and all of this will die down. They don't have to address any of it.


Though I guess we'll probably end up at this conclusion either way if discussion is generated at the current rate, just a week behind schedule.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1191 Posts
July 24 2025 18:38 GMT
#164
On July 24 2025 16:02 Optimus Prime2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2025 04:55 Balnazza wrote:
On July 24 2025 04:28 Optimus Prime2 wrote:
On July 23 2025 22:42 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote:


Ball is at OP's court, show some actual proof. Show the receipts. Not just throw bs claims without any basis.

Sure i can't and nobody other than Tastless himself can. Thats why transparency is must have thing here. If Tasteless is doing things right, he have no problem to show how he spreads this money.


So you sit there with your dick in your hand and have squat...which is already rounded up. Just to repeat myself: "Staggeringly unhelpful"

what you say here is useless fanboy advocating, with no facts yourself on tasteless's transparencys , you jumping around and yelling abouts proofs.


Honey, I don't care about RSL. Or GSL for that matter. Literally no interest in it.
So you can't even get that one right...
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Optimus Prime2
Profile Joined May 2025
64 Posts
August 07 2025 07:14 GMT
#165
(Wiki)RSL Revival/Season 2 group play starts in 4 weeks , while qualifiers begin in 1 day already from now. Doesnt it feel like patreon money dragging?
Second news are Clem and herO are both joining Serral, and declining participation in this event. Still saving sc2 ? or more players realise what type of event is that?
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-07 07:34:29
August 07 2025 07:20 GMT
#166
On August 07 2025 16:14 Optimus Prime2 wrote:
(Wiki)RSL Revival/Season 2 group play starts in 4 weeks , while qualifiers begin in 1 day already from now. Doesnt it feel like patreon money dragging?
Second news are Clem and herO are both joining Serral, and declining participation in this event. Still saving sc2 ? or more players realise what type of event is that?

Maybe they are taking a moral stand against the tournament, but then they'd have to explain why they specifically find this tournament more morally repugnant than Saudi Arabia's EWC tournament, and I don't think that's a route they can go down without twisting themselves in knots.

I do like observing expert-level mental gymnastics though, so I'd love to see them try for my amusement.

What I'm saying is that there's probably some other reason that has nothing to do with moral outrage.

EDIT:

One minute of investigation on Liquipedia has shown me that the group stages for RSL and Maestros of the Game clash with one another.

Something something Occam's Razor.

"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Haighstrom
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom202 Posts
August 07 2025 07:23 GMT
#167
On August 07 2025 16:14 Optimus Prime2 wrote:
Second news are Clem and herO are both joining Serral, and declining participation in this event.


Where's this news from? Is it confirmed?
Optimus Prime2
Profile Joined May 2025
64 Posts
August 07 2025 08:29 GMT
#168
On August 07 2025 16:23 Haighstrom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2025 16:14 Optimus Prime2 wrote:
Second news are Clem and herO are both joining Serral, and declining participation in this event.


Where's this news from? Is it confirmed?

you already see Clem is not on an invitation list , and herO said this in players chat, also not signed for korean qualifier.
funkyemy
Profile Joined May 2025
Germany11 Posts
August 07 2025 08:37 GMT
#169
Take off the tinfoil hat my man

There is some valid criticism of how the money ist distributed, but linking every little bit of information around this tournament to it being a scam is quite a stretch.

There are many reasons for why players would decline - first and foremost, Clem is French so he is naturally must be taking off all August and maybe September if he feels like it. It's his Western European genes yearning for vacation after the most stressful time of the year for him.

As for herO who knows? But it is not a lot of prize money on the line for him, so we should just let it go
"I could have gone pro, if not for [x]!"
Optimus Prime2
Profile Joined May 2025
64 Posts
August 07 2025 08:54 GMT
#170
On August 07 2025 17:37 funkyemy wrote:
Take off the tinfoil hat my man

There is some valid criticism of how the money ist distributed, but linking every little bit of information around this tournament to it being a scam is quite a stretch.

There are many reasons for why players would decline - first and foremost, Clem is French so he is naturally must be taking off all August and maybe September if he feels like it. It's his Western European genes yearning for vacation after the most stressful time of the year for him.

As for herO who knows? But it is not a lot of prize money on the line for him, so we should just let it go


Sure bro, theres so many tournaments with bigger prizemoney for herO incoming(none), u're correct .
And Clem went straight from EWC into Krakow Lan with no problem at all, also he did play Liu Cup recently, also wasnt big of a deal. So whos wearing tinfoil hat now ?
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden753 Posts
August 07 2025 11:00 GMT
#171
really a mystery why Clem would play a french tournament instead of rsl...
Optimus Prime2
Profile Joined May 2025
64 Posts
August 07 2025 11:13 GMT
#172
On August 07 2025 20:00 Kreuger wrote:
really a mystery why Clem would play a french tournament instead of rsl...

Not instead at all, as french tournament is offline for 1 day only, would not be a problem to play both.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25568 Posts
August 07 2025 11:15 GMT
#173
Oh my fucking god give it a rest already
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-07 12:15:45
August 07 2025 11:54 GMT
#174
On August 07 2025 20:13 Optimus Prime2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2025 20:00 Kreuger wrote:
really a mystery why Clem would play a french tournament instead of rsl...

Not instead at all, as french tournament is offline for 1 day only, would not be a problem to play both.

Are you a mind reader?

Players have avoided clashing tournaments since forever.

Even if they can feasibly play two at once, they might not want to worry about doing so.

Unless OP is going to bring some actual evidence, I'd suggest...

"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Optimus Prime2
Profile Joined May 2025
64 Posts
August 07 2025 12:18 GMT
#175
On August 07 2025 20:54 MJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2025 20:13 Optimus Prime2 wrote:
On August 07 2025 20:00 Kreuger wrote:
really a mystery why Clem would play a french tournament instead of rsl...

Not instead at all, as french tournament is offline for 1 day only, would not be a problem to play both.

Are you a mind reader?

Players have avoided clashing tournaments since forever.

Even if they can feasibly play two at once, they might not want to worry about doing so.

Unless OP is going to bring some actual evidence, I'd suggest...


Da fk your talking about players avoiding clashes broh))) as maru and byun already signed for both rsl and maestro xD
There is no reason to avoid for players at all, as their prizepool are minimal compared to what it was even 3-5 years ago , to skip anything without real reason. You just have no clue mate

User was temp banned for this post.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-07 12:48:30
August 07 2025 12:26 GMT
#176
On August 07 2025 21:18 Optimus Prime2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2025 20:54 MJG wrote:
On August 07 2025 20:13 Optimus Prime2 wrote:
On August 07 2025 20:00 Kreuger wrote:
really a mystery why Clem would play a french tournament instead of rsl...

Not instead at all, as french tournament is offline for 1 day only, would not be a problem to play both.

Are you a mind reader?

Players have avoided clashing tournaments since forever.

Even if they can feasibly play two at once, they might not want to worry about doing so.

Unless OP is going to bring some actual evidence, I'd suggest...


Da fk your talking about players avoiding clashes broh))) as maru and byun already signed for both rsl and maestro xD
There is no reason to avoid for players at all, as their prizepool are minimal compared to what it was even 3-5 years ago , to skip anything without real reason. You just have no clue mate

Where's your evidence that they're taking a moral stand against RSL though?

EDIT:

Just because some players are willing to do both doesn't mean that all players will be.

Maru himself forfeited a spot in Bellum Gens Elite due to how close it was to GSL. Zoun played in both tournaments so it was obviously possible to do so. Are you going to claim that Maru thought Bellum Gens Elite was shady?
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25568 Posts
August 07 2025 22:54 GMT
#177
Maybe Clem being French, at a French tourney, with a French scene that is one of the most vibrant in the scene wants to actually enjoy the event, hang out with long-term buddies and fans and just kick back a bit? Have a few beers or whatever he does for fun?

Serral might just wanna chill out rolling around in the giant prize pot he just won?

Who really knows?

Hey it’s a pity for the spectacle of the tournament, but it gives some others a realistic shot at a bit more money.

I mean that’s if Tasteless doesn’t blow the pot entirely on hookers and cocaine or whatever the next complaint is gonna be…
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1169 Posts
August 12 2025 07:08 GMT
#178
On August 07 2025 16:14 Optimus Prime2 wrote:
Second news are Clem and herO are both joining Serral, and declining participation in this event. Still saving sc2 ? or more players realise what type of event is that?

Clem dropped out of uThermal's 2v2 tournament.

Clearly that tournament is some sort of shady scam intended to enrich uThermal!

"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Ch3rry
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland228 Posts
August 12 2025 08:29 GMT
#179
On August 12 2025 16:08 MJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2025 16:14 Optimus Prime2 wrote:
Second news are Clem and herO are both joining Serral, and declining participation in this event. Still saving sc2 ? or more players realise what type of event is that?

Clem dropped out of uThermal's 2v2 tournament.

Clearly that tournament is some sort of shady scam intended to enrich uThermal!


Heard that one before.

To sum up, RSL is not a scam, as they clearly explained how much money will go to Reward Pool on their Patreon Page.
Reward pool is not big, so less excitement from audience and maybe some players dropping because of this? Maybe, however still not scam.
Just another A- or B-tier tornament, ran by famous streamers this time.

/thread
Optimus Prime2
Profile Joined May 2025
64 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-12 09:41:17
August 12 2025 09:38 GMT
#180
On August 12 2025 16:08 MJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2025 16:14 Optimus Prime2 wrote:
Second news are Clem and herO are both joining Serral, and declining participation in this event. Still saving sc2 ? or more players realise what type of event is that?

Clem dropped out of uThermal's 2v2 tournament.

Clearly that tournament is some sort of shady scam intended to enrich uThermal!


And Serral casually playing it, herO not signed for RSL aswell, while signed for french cup
If you wouldn't be bias, you would bring all players , not just who you have interest in. 2v2 cup is sometihng else, not much players have fun playing it.
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