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On July 24 2025 18:05 johnnyh123 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2025 16:04 MJG wrote:On July 24 2025 16:02 Optimus Prime2 wrote:On July 24 2025 04:55 Balnazza wrote:On July 24 2025 04:28 Optimus Prime2 wrote:On July 23 2025 22:42 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote:
Ball is at OP's court, show some actual proof. Show the receipts. Not just throw bs claims without any basis. Sure i can't and nobody other than Tastless himself can. Thats why transparency is must have thing here. If Tasteless is doing things right, he have no problem to show how he spreads this money. So you sit there with your dick in your hand and have squat...which is already rounded up. Just to repeat myself: "Staggeringly unhelpful" what you say here is useless fanboy advocating, with no facts yourself on tasteless's transparencys , you jumping around and yelling abouts proofs. The onus is on the accuser to bring proof. I tend to agree with this. But this is mostly healthy behavior, to bring things to the attention of the community.
Healthy behavior when the guy has 29 post 24 trying to create drama out of thin air and 5 responding to match fixing drama Yep seems very healthy to me
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Northern Ireland25568 Posts
On July 24 2025 18:05 johnnyh123 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2025 16:04 MJG wrote:On July 24 2025 16:02 Optimus Prime2 wrote:On July 24 2025 04:55 Balnazza wrote:On July 24 2025 04:28 Optimus Prime2 wrote:On July 23 2025 22:42 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote:
Ball is at OP's court, show some actual proof. Show the receipts. Not just throw bs claims without any basis. Sure i can't and nobody other than Tastless himself can. Thats why transparency is must have thing here. If Tasteless is doing things right, he have no problem to show how he spreads this money. So you sit there with your dick in your hand and have squat...which is already rounded up. Just to repeat myself: "Staggeringly unhelpful" what you say here is useless fanboy advocating, with no facts yourself on tasteless's transparencys , you jumping around and yelling abouts proofs. The onus is on the accuser to bring proof. I tend to agree with this. But this is mostly healthy behavior, to bring things to the attention of the community. Healthy behaviour would be, well not what OP is doing.
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I guess at least he is keeping his topic alive, otherwise it would go down just as I predicted:
RSL/Tasteless can just wait a week or two and all of this will die down. They don't have to address any of it.
Though I guess we'll probably end up at this conclusion either way if discussion is generated at the current rate, just a week behind schedule.
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On July 24 2025 16:02 Optimus Prime2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2025 04:55 Balnazza wrote:On July 24 2025 04:28 Optimus Prime2 wrote:On July 23 2025 22:42 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote:
Ball is at OP's court, show some actual proof. Show the receipts. Not just throw bs claims without any basis. Sure i can't and nobody other than Tastless himself can. Thats why transparency is must have thing here. If Tasteless is doing things right, he have no problem to show how he spreads this money. So you sit there with your dick in your hand and have squat...which is already rounded up. Just to repeat myself: "Staggeringly unhelpful" what you say here is useless fanboy advocating, with no facts yourself on tasteless's transparencys , you jumping around and yelling abouts proofs.
Honey, I don't care about RSL. Or GSL for that matter. Literally no interest in it. So you can't even get that one right...
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RSL Revival/Season 2 group play starts in 4 weeks , while qualifiers begin in 1 day already from now. Doesnt it feel like patreon money dragging? Second news are Clem and herO are both joining Serral, and declining participation in this event. Still saving sc2 ? or more players realise what type of event is that?
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On August 07 2025 16:14 Optimus Prime2 wrote: RSL Revival/Season 2 group play starts in 4 weeks , while qualifiers begin in 1 day already from now. Doesnt it feel like patreon money dragging? Second news are Clem and herO are both joining Serral, and declining participation in this event. Still saving sc2 ? or more players realise what type of event is that? Maybe they are taking a moral stand against the tournament, but then they'd have to explain why they specifically find this tournament more morally repugnant than Saudi Arabia's EWC tournament, and I don't think that's a route they can go down without twisting themselves in knots.
I do like observing expert-level mental gymnastics though, so I'd love to see them try for my amusement.
What I'm saying is that there's probably some other reason that has nothing to do with moral outrage.
EDIT:
One minute of investigation on Liquipedia has shown me that the group stages for RSL and Maestros of the Game clash with one another.
Something something Occam's Razor.
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On August 07 2025 16:14 Optimus Prime2 wrote: Second news are Clem and herO are both joining Serral, and declining participation in this event.
Where's this news from? Is it confirmed?
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On August 07 2025 16:23 Haighstrom wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2025 16:14 Optimus Prime2 wrote: Second news are Clem and herO are both joining Serral, and declining participation in this event. Where's this news from? Is it confirmed? you already see Clem is not on an invitation list , and herO said this in players chat, also not signed for korean qualifier.
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Take off the tinfoil hat my man
There is some valid criticism of how the money ist distributed, but linking every little bit of information around this tournament to it being a scam is quite a stretch.
There are many reasons for why players would decline - first and foremost, Clem is French so he is naturally must be taking off all August and maybe September if he feels like it. It's his Western European genes yearning for vacation after the most stressful time of the year for him.
As for herO who knows? But it is not a lot of prize money on the line for him, so we should just let it go
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On August 07 2025 17:37 funkyemy wrote: Take off the tinfoil hat my man
There is some valid criticism of how the money ist distributed, but linking every little bit of information around this tournament to it being a scam is quite a stretch.
There are many reasons for why players would decline - first and foremost, Clem is French so he is naturally must be taking off all August and maybe September if he feels like it. It's his Western European genes yearning for vacation after the most stressful time of the year for him.
As for herO who knows? But it is not a lot of prize money on the line for him, so we should just let it go
Sure bro, theres so many tournaments with bigger prizemoney for herO incoming(none), u're correct . And Clem went straight from EWC into Krakow Lan with no problem at all, also he did play Liu Cup recently, also wasnt big of a deal. So whos wearing tinfoil hat now ?
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really a mystery why Clem would play a french tournament instead of rsl...
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On August 07 2025 20:00 Kreuger wrote: really a mystery why Clem would play a french tournament instead of rsl... Not instead at all, as french tournament is offline for 1 day only, would not be a problem to play both.
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Northern Ireland25568 Posts
Oh my fucking god give it a rest already
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On August 07 2025 20:13 Optimus Prime2 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2025 20:00 Kreuger wrote: really a mystery why Clem would play a french tournament instead of rsl... Not instead at all, as french tournament is offline for 1 day only, would not be a problem to play both. Are you a mind reader?
Players have avoided clashing tournaments since forever.
Even if they can feasibly play two at once, they might not want to worry about doing so.
Unless OP is going to bring some actual evidence, I'd suggest...
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On August 07 2025 20:54 MJG wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2025 20:13 Optimus Prime2 wrote:On August 07 2025 20:00 Kreuger wrote: really a mystery why Clem would play a french tournament instead of rsl... Not instead at all, as french tournament is offline for 1 day only, would not be a problem to play both. Are you a mind reader? Players have avoided clashing tournaments since forever. Even if they can feasibly play two at once, they might not want to worry about doing so. Unless OP is going to bring some actual evidence, I'd suggest...  Da fk your talking about players avoiding clashes broh))) as maru and byun already signed for both rsl and maestro xD There is no reason to avoid for players at all, as their prizepool are minimal compared to what it was even 3-5 years ago , to skip anything without real reason. You just have no clue mate
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On August 07 2025 21:18 Optimus Prime2 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2025 20:54 MJG wrote:On August 07 2025 20:13 Optimus Prime2 wrote:On August 07 2025 20:00 Kreuger wrote: really a mystery why Clem would play a french tournament instead of rsl... Not instead at all, as french tournament is offline for 1 day only, would not be a problem to play both. Are you a mind reader? Players have avoided clashing tournaments since forever. Even if they can feasibly play two at once, they might not want to worry about doing so. Unless OP is going to bring some actual evidence, I'd suggest...  Da fk your talking about players avoiding clashes broh))) as maru and byun already signed for both rsl and maestro xD There is no reason to avoid for players at all, as their prizepool are minimal compared to what it was even 3-5 years ago , to skip anything without real reason. You just have no clue mate Where's your evidence that they're taking a moral stand against RSL though?
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Just because some players are willing to do both doesn't mean that all players will be.
Maru himself forfeited a spot in Bellum Gens Elite due to how close it was to GSL. Zoun played in both tournaments so it was obviously possible to do so. Are you going to claim that Maru thought Bellum Gens Elite was shady?
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Northern Ireland25568 Posts
Maybe Clem being French, at a French tourney, with a French scene that is one of the most vibrant in the scene wants to actually enjoy the event, hang out with long-term buddies and fans and just kick back a bit? Have a few beers or whatever he does for fun?
Serral might just wanna chill out rolling around in the giant prize pot he just won?
Who really knows?
Hey it’s a pity for the spectacle of the tournament, but it gives some others a realistic shot at a bit more money.
I mean that’s if Tasteless doesn’t blow the pot entirely on hookers and cocaine or whatever the next complaint is gonna be…
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On August 07 2025 16:14 Optimus Prime2 wrote: Second news are Clem and herO are both joining Serral, and declining participation in this event. Still saving sc2 ? or more players realise what type of event is that? Clem dropped out of uThermal's 2v2 tournament.
Clearly that tournament is some sort of shady scam intended to enrich uThermal!
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On August 12 2025 16:08 MJG wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2025 16:14 Optimus Prime2 wrote: Second news are Clem and herO are both joining Serral, and declining participation in this event. Still saving sc2 ? or more players realise what type of event is that? Clem dropped out of uThermal's 2v2 tournament. Clearly that tournament is some sort of shady scam intended to enrich uThermal!  Heard that one before.
To sum up, RSL is not a scam, as they clearly explained how much money will go to Reward Pool on their Patreon Page. Reward pool is not big, so less excitement from audience and maybe some players dropping because of this? Maybe, however still not scam. Just another A- or B-tier tornament, ran by famous streamers this time.
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On August 12 2025 16:08 MJG wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2025 16:14 Optimus Prime2 wrote: Second news are Clem and herO are both joining Serral, and declining participation in this event. Still saving sc2 ? or more players realise what type of event is that? Clem dropped out of uThermal's 2v2 tournament. Clearly that tournament is some sort of shady scam intended to enrich uThermal!  And Serral casually playing it, herO not signed for RSL aswell, while signed for french cup If you wouldn't be bias, you would bring all players , not just who you have interest in. 2v2 cup is sometihng else, not much players have fun playing it.
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