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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33599 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-24 07:33:51
January 24 2019 07:33 GMT
#21
On January 24 2019 16:31 pvsnp wrote:
According to NoRegret:

Show nested quote +
From what I understand is, They can only not compete in WCS Challenger. They can still play in the main events of WCS. It shouldn't change too much but its a bit unfortunate because I don't think this accomplishes anything towards helping amateur Korean players.


So that's a pretty big difference. An official announcement from Blizzard would really be nice though.


That actually doesn't mean anything because WCS Challenger doesn't exist and hasn't been announced. It literally clarifies nothing.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-24 07:39:47
January 24 2019 07:34 GMT
#22
On January 24 2019 16:33 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2019 16:31 pvsnp wrote:
According to NoRegret:

From what I understand is, They can only not compete in WCS Challenger. They can still play in the main events of WCS. It shouldn't change too much but its a bit unfortunate because I don't think this accomplishes anything towards helping amateur Korean players.


So that's a pretty big difference. An official announcement from Blizzard would really be nice though.


That actually doesn't mean anything because WCS Challenger doesn't exist and hasn't been announced. It literally clarifies nothing.


If we take Noregret at his word, wouldn't that mean that WCS Challenger is confirmed?

Personally I don't think it's a huge stretch to imagine that WCS Challenger will be a thing in 2019, and they just haven't gotten around to announcing it yet. The WCS system doesn't just spring into existence the instant that Blizzard makes its official announcement.

And if I remember correctly, wasn't "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" the same deal that TRUE got last year?
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33599 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-24 07:40:55
January 24 2019 07:40 GMT
#23
On January 24 2019 16:34 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2019 16:33 Waxangel wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:31 pvsnp wrote:
According to NoRegret:

From what I understand is, They can only not compete in WCS Challenger. They can still play in the main events of WCS. It shouldn't change too much but its a bit unfortunate because I don't think this accomplishes anything towards helping amateur Korean players.


So that's a pretty big difference. An official announcement from Blizzard would really be nice though.


That actually doesn't mean anything because WCS Challenger doesn't exist and hasn't been announced. It literally clarifies nothing.


If we take Noregret at his word, wouldn't that mean that WCS Challenger is confirmed?

Personally I don't think it's a huge stretch to imagine that WCS Challenger will be a thing in 2019, and they just haven't gotten around to announcing it yet. The WCS system doesn't just spring into existence the instant that Blizzard makes its official announcement.

And if I remember correctly, wasn't "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" the same deal that TRUE got?


Okay then you are literally just speculating. And that was not what happened to TRUE was at all—it was based around the # of days you need to reside in a Circuit region to stay eligible. Seriously I should just delete your posts because they are 90% misinformation.
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GreasedUpDeafGuy
Profile Joined August 2018
United States398 Posts
January 24 2019 07:41 GMT
#24
Never change Blizzard, never change
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lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
392 Posts
January 24 2019 07:42 GMT
#25
Blizz and afreeca might want to up their communication game.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-24 07:47:24
January 24 2019 07:42 GMT
#26
On January 24 2019 16:40 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2019 16:34 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:33 Waxangel wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:31 pvsnp wrote:
According to NoRegret:

From what I understand is, They can only not compete in WCS Challenger. They can still play in the main events of WCS. It shouldn't change too much but its a bit unfortunate because I don't think this accomplishes anything towards helping amateur Korean players.


So that's a pretty big difference. An official announcement from Blizzard would really be nice though.


That actually doesn't mean anything because WCS Challenger doesn't exist and hasn't been announced. It literally clarifies nothing.


If we take Noregret at his word, wouldn't that mean that WCS Challenger is confirmed?

Personally I don't think it's a huge stretch to imagine that WCS Challenger will be a thing in 2019, and they just haven't gotten around to announcing it yet. The WCS system doesn't just spring into existence the instant that Blizzard makes its official announcement.

And if I remember correctly, wasn't "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" the same deal that TRUE got?


Okay then you are literally just speculating. And that was not what happened to TRUE was at all—it was based around the # of days you need to reside in a Circuit region to stay eligible. Seriously I should just delete your posts because they are 90% misinformation.


With all due respect, isn't everyone in this thread speculating? We've got zero official information. What makes my speculation so egregious?

And here's the Blizzard announcement about TRUE, which is literally titled "TRUE Chooses GSL over Challenger." I get that TRUE being Korean means some visa and residency stuff, but doesn't it still boil down to "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" like I said?
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 24 2019 08:06 GMT
#27
On January 24 2019 16:42 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2019 16:40 Waxangel wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:34 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:33 Waxangel wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:31 pvsnp wrote:
According to NoRegret:

From what I understand is, They can only not compete in WCS Challenger. They can still play in the main events of WCS. It shouldn't change too much but its a bit unfortunate because I don't think this accomplishes anything towards helping amateur Korean players.


So that's a pretty big difference. An official announcement from Blizzard would really be nice though.


That actually doesn't mean anything because WCS Challenger doesn't exist and hasn't been announced. It literally clarifies nothing.


If we take Noregret at his word, wouldn't that mean that WCS Challenger is confirmed?

Personally I don't think it's a huge stretch to imagine that WCS Challenger will be a thing in 2019, and they just haven't gotten around to announcing it yet. The WCS system doesn't just spring into existence the instant that Blizzard makes its official announcement.

And if I remember correctly, wasn't "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" the same deal that TRUE got?


Okay then you are literally just speculating. And that was not what happened to TRUE was at all—it was based around the # of days you need to reside in a Circuit region to stay eligible. Seriously I should just delete your posts because they are 90% misinformation.


With all due respect, isn't everyone in this thread speculating? We've got zero official information. What makes my speculation so egregious?

And here's the Blizzard announcement about TRUE, which is literally titled "TRUE Chooses GSL over Challenger." I get that TRUE being Korean means some visa and residency stuff, but doesn't it still boil down to "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" like I said?

Stop dragging TRUE into this, different thing.

TL, DR about TRUE: You have to live 30 days in the region before competing otherwise you're not eligible to compete as a Korean in WCS(#noRacism). Because of this shitty rule you cannot in these 30 days compete in GSL as GSL is an offline tournament. Therefore TRUE had to choose if he goes to Korea and competes in GSL and thus loses the possibility to compete in the next WCS or stays and gives up GSL.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-24 08:20:33
January 24 2019 08:12 GMT
#28
On January 24 2019 17:06 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2019 16:42 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:40 Waxangel wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:34 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:33 Waxangel wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:31 pvsnp wrote:
According to NoRegret:

From what I understand is, They can only not compete in WCS Challenger. They can still play in the main events of WCS. It shouldn't change too much but its a bit unfortunate because I don't think this accomplishes anything towards helping amateur Korean players.


So that's a pretty big difference. An official announcement from Blizzard would really be nice though.


That actually doesn't mean anything because WCS Challenger doesn't exist and hasn't been announced. It literally clarifies nothing.


If we take Noregret at his word, wouldn't that mean that WCS Challenger is confirmed?

Personally I don't think it's a huge stretch to imagine that WCS Challenger will be a thing in 2019, and they just haven't gotten around to announcing it yet. The WCS system doesn't just spring into existence the instant that Blizzard makes its official announcement.

And if I remember correctly, wasn't "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" the same deal that TRUE got?


Okay then you are literally just speculating. And that was not what happened to TRUE was at all—it was based around the # of days you need to reside in a Circuit region to stay eligible. Seriously I should just delete your posts because they are 90% misinformation.


With all due respect, isn't everyone in this thread speculating? We've got zero official information. What makes my speculation so egregious?

And here's the Blizzard announcement about TRUE, which is literally titled "TRUE Chooses GSL over Challenger." I get that TRUE being Korean means some visa and residency stuff, but doesn't it still boil down to "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" like I said?

Stop dragging TRUE into this, different thing.

TL, DR about TRUE: You have to live 30 days in the region before competing otherwise you're not eligible to compete as a Korean in WCS(#noRacism). Because of this shitty rule you cannot in these 30 days compete in GSL as GSL is an offline tournament. Therefore TRUE had to choose if he goes to Korea and competes in GSL and thus loses the possibility to compete in the next WCS or stays and gives up GSL.


Thanks for explaining.

I understand that TRUE, being Korean, is forced to follow the 30-day residency rule. So if what Noregret said is correct, this means foreigners would be able to play in GSL, fly out for a weekend to play in WCS (open bracket), and then return to play in GSL again. I think?
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TL+ Member
v5872012
Profile Joined May 2018
35 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-24 08:28:17
January 24 2019 08:27 GMT
#29
On January 24 2019 17:12 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2019 17:06 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:42 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:40 Waxangel wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:34 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:33 Waxangel wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:31 pvsnp wrote:
According to NoRegret:

From what I understand is, They can only not compete in WCS Challenger. They can still play in the main events of WCS. It shouldn't change too much but its a bit unfortunate because I don't think this accomplishes anything towards helping amateur Korean players.


So that's a pretty big difference. An official announcement from Blizzard would really be nice though.


That actually doesn't mean anything because WCS Challenger doesn't exist and hasn't been announced. It literally clarifies nothing.


If we take Noregret at his word, wouldn't that mean that WCS Challenger is confirmed?

Personally I don't think it's a huge stretch to imagine that WCS Challenger will be a thing in 2019, and they just haven't gotten around to announcing it yet. The WCS system doesn't just spring into existence the instant that Blizzard makes its official announcement.

And if I remember correctly, wasn't "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" the same deal that TRUE got?


Okay then you are literally just speculating. And that was not what happened to TRUE was at all—it was based around the # of days you need to reside in a Circuit region to stay eligible. Seriously I should just delete your posts because they are 90% misinformation.


With all due respect, isn't everyone in this thread speculating? We've got zero official information. What makes my speculation so egregious?

And here's the Blizzard announcement about TRUE, which is literally titled "TRUE Chooses GSL over Challenger." I get that TRUE being Korean means some visa and residency stuff, but doesn't it still boil down to "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" like I said?

Stop dragging TRUE into this, different thing.

TL, DR about TRUE: You have to live 30 days in the region before competing otherwise you're not eligible to compete as a Korean in WCS(#noRacism). Because of this shitty rule you cannot in these 30 days compete in GSL as GSL is an offline tournament. Therefore TRUE had to choose if he goes to Korea and competes in GSL and thus loses the possibility to compete in the next WCS or stays and gives up GSL.


Thanks for explaining.

I understand that TRUE, being Korean, is forced to follow the 30-day residency rule. So if what Noregret said is correct, this means foreigners would be able to play in GSL, fly out for a weekend to play in WCS (open bracket), and then return to play in GSL again. I think?



TIME was plan to fly to Korea since GSL Offline S1 Qualifier gonna start at 25 Jan KST. It's literally tomorrow. And now he have to cancel his flight since this.
Elmonti
Profile Joined July 2018
Spain299 Posts
January 24 2019 08:29 GMT
#30
It would be as fair as it is stupid to cut foreigners from competing in GSL: 2 spots in the Ro32 is not gonna do shit to the Korean scene, while the absence of non-koreans in GSL is gonna drop the viewership i na substantial way.

It would also mean the closure of the foreigner house in Korea, since non of them would be even close to get enough points to qualify for Blizzcon (unless they stay in Korea for different reasons non related to SC2, like they prefer to live there, etc.).
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-24 08:41:14
January 24 2019 08:36 GMT
#31
On January 24 2019 17:27 v5872012 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2019 17:12 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 17:06 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:42 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:40 Waxangel wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:34 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:33 Waxangel wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:31 pvsnp wrote:
According to NoRegret:

From what I understand is, They can only not compete in WCS Challenger. They can still play in the main events of WCS. It shouldn't change too much but its a bit unfortunate because I don't think this accomplishes anything towards helping amateur Korean players.


So that's a pretty big difference. An official announcement from Blizzard would really be nice though.


That actually doesn't mean anything because WCS Challenger doesn't exist and hasn't been announced. It literally clarifies nothing.


If we take Noregret at his word, wouldn't that mean that WCS Challenger is confirmed?

Personally I don't think it's a huge stretch to imagine that WCS Challenger will be a thing in 2019, and they just haven't gotten around to announcing it yet. The WCS system doesn't just spring into existence the instant that Blizzard makes its official announcement.

And if I remember correctly, wasn't "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" the same deal that TRUE got?


Okay then you are literally just speculating. And that was not what happened to TRUE was at all—it was based around the # of days you need to reside in a Circuit region to stay eligible. Seriously I should just delete your posts because they are 90% misinformation.


With all due respect, isn't everyone in this thread speculating? We've got zero official information. What makes my speculation so egregious?

And here's the Blizzard announcement about TRUE, which is literally titled "TRUE Chooses GSL over Challenger." I get that TRUE being Korean means some visa and residency stuff, but doesn't it still boil down to "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" like I said?

Stop dragging TRUE into this, different thing.

TL, DR about TRUE: You have to live 30 days in the region before competing otherwise you're not eligible to compete as a Korean in WCS(#noRacism). Because of this shitty rule you cannot in these 30 days compete in GSL as GSL is an offline tournament. Therefore TRUE had to choose if he goes to Korea and competes in GSL and thus loses the possibility to compete in the next WCS or stays and gives up GSL.


Thanks for explaining.

I understand that TRUE, being Korean, is forced to follow the 30-day residency rule. So if what Noregret said is correct, this means foreigners would be able to play in GSL, fly out for a weekend to play in WCS (open bracket), and then return to play in GSL again. I think?



TIME was plan to fly to Korea since GSL Offline S1 Qualifier gonna start at 25 Jan KST. It's literally tomorrow. And now he have to cancel his flight since this.


Given the limited information available, I don't think I can understand why he would do that. If what Noregret is says is true, then he could still play in GSL and then just go to the WCS open bracket. Unless he doesn't believe he can make it through the open bracket at WCS events?

If we're lucky, Blizzard will say something about this tomorrow or Friday.
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v5872012
Profile Joined May 2018
35 Posts
January 24 2019 08:42 GMT
#32
On January 24 2019 17:36 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2019 17:27 v5872012 wrote:
On January 24 2019 17:12 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 17:06 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:42 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:40 Waxangel wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:34 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:33 Waxangel wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:31 pvsnp wrote:
According to NoRegret:

From what I understand is, They can only not compete in WCS Challenger. They can still play in the main events of WCS. It shouldn't change too much but its a bit unfortunate because I don't think this accomplishes anything towards helping amateur Korean players.


So that's a pretty big difference. An official announcement from Blizzard would really be nice though.


That actually doesn't mean anything because WCS Challenger doesn't exist and hasn't been announced. It literally clarifies nothing.


If we take Noregret at his word, wouldn't that mean that WCS Challenger is confirmed?

Personally I don't think it's a huge stretch to imagine that WCS Challenger will be a thing in 2019, and they just haven't gotten around to announcing it yet. The WCS system doesn't just spring into existence the instant that Blizzard makes its official announcement.

And if I remember correctly, wasn't "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" the same deal that TRUE got?


Okay then you are literally just speculating. And that was not what happened to TRUE was at all—it was based around the # of days you need to reside in a Circuit region to stay eligible. Seriously I should just delete your posts because they are 90% misinformation.


With all due respect, isn't everyone in this thread speculating? We've got zero official information. What makes my speculation so egregious?

And here's the Blizzard announcement about TRUE, which is literally titled "TRUE Chooses GSL over Challenger." I get that TRUE being Korean means some visa and residency stuff, but doesn't it still boil down to "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" like I said?

Stop dragging TRUE into this, different thing.

TL, DR about TRUE: You have to live 30 days in the region before competing otherwise you're not eligible to compete as a Korean in WCS(#noRacism). Because of this shitty rule you cannot in these 30 days compete in GSL as GSL is an offline tournament. Therefore TRUE had to choose if he goes to Korea and competes in GSL and thus loses the possibility to compete in the next WCS or stays and gives up GSL.


Thanks for explaining.

I understand that TRUE, being Korean, is forced to follow the 30-day residency rule. So if what Noregret said is correct, this means foreigners would be able to play in GSL, fly out for a weekend to play in WCS (open bracket), and then return to play in GSL again. I think?



TIME was plan to fly to Korea since GSL Offline S1 Qualifier gonna start at 25 Jan KST. It's literally tomorrow. And now he have to cancel his flight since this.


Given the limited information available, I don't think I can understand why he would do that. If what Noregret is says is true, then he could still play in GSL and then just go to the WCS open bracket. Unless he doesn't believe he can make it through the open bracket at WCS events?


Cloudy told TIME that the rules was changed before TIME gonna take the flight. Cloudy did not mention any information about GSL Challenger or things like that. Since TIME did not post the exact information about Cloudy's email. Perhaps Cloudy misunderstood the email or NoRegret misunderstood the rules.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
January 24 2019 08:52 GMT
#33
I think the overall choice to make this change is good, and I'm glad the tweet Solar posted speaking for the Korean pros actually had some impact.

With that being said, the announcements and communication with the public by Blizzard has been super choppy recently, I wonder what's up with that..
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 24 2019 09:03 GMT
#34
On January 24 2019 17:42 v5872012 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2019 17:36 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 17:27 v5872012 wrote:
On January 24 2019 17:12 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 17:06 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:42 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:40 Waxangel wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:34 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:33 Waxangel wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:31 pvsnp wrote:
According to NoRegret:

[quote]

So that's a pretty big difference. An official announcement from Blizzard would really be nice though.


That actually doesn't mean anything because WCS Challenger doesn't exist and hasn't been announced. It literally clarifies nothing.


If we take Noregret at his word, wouldn't that mean that WCS Challenger is confirmed?

Personally I don't think it's a huge stretch to imagine that WCS Challenger will be a thing in 2019, and they just haven't gotten around to announcing it yet. The WCS system doesn't just spring into existence the instant that Blizzard makes its official announcement.

And if I remember correctly, wasn't "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" the same deal that TRUE got?


Okay then you are literally just speculating. And that was not what happened to TRUE was at all—it was based around the # of days you need to reside in a Circuit region to stay eligible. Seriously I should just delete your posts because they are 90% misinformation.


With all due respect, isn't everyone in this thread speculating? We've got zero official information. What makes my speculation so egregious?

And here's the Blizzard announcement about TRUE, which is literally titled "TRUE Chooses GSL over Challenger." I get that TRUE being Korean means some visa and residency stuff, but doesn't it still boil down to "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" like I said?

Stop dragging TRUE into this, different thing.

TL, DR about TRUE: You have to live 30 days in the region before competing otherwise you're not eligible to compete as a Korean in WCS(#noRacism). Because of this shitty rule you cannot in these 30 days compete in GSL as GSL is an offline tournament. Therefore TRUE had to choose if he goes to Korea and competes in GSL and thus loses the possibility to compete in the next WCS or stays and gives up GSL.


Thanks for explaining.

I understand that TRUE, being Korean, is forced to follow the 30-day residency rule. So if what Noregret said is correct, this means foreigners would be able to play in GSL, fly out for a weekend to play in WCS (open bracket), and then return to play in GSL again. I think?



TIME was plan to fly to Korea since GSL Offline S1 Qualifier gonna start at 25 Jan KST. It's literally tomorrow. And now he have to cancel his flight since this.


Given the limited information available, I don't think I can understand why he would do that. If what Noregret is says is true, then he could still play in GSL and then just go to the WCS open bracket. Unless he doesn't believe he can make it through the open bracket at WCS events?


Cloudy told TIME that the rules was changed before TIME gonna take the flight. Cloudy did not mention any information about GSL Challenger or things like that. Since TIME did not post the exact information about Cloudy's email. Perhaps Cloudy misunderstood the email or NoRegret misunderstood the rules.


I think are just too many unknowns to do more than speculate right now. Hopefully Blizzard clarifies things soon.
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Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
January 24 2019 09:04 GMT
#35
All the foreigners that have planned to play in GSL also plan to play in every single WCS event (there's no reason not to...). Don't act like this announcement would screw them over; they just get a slightly less money (unlikely that most of them would even qualify for GSL anyway).

And stop saying that viewership will plummet, no one likes to watch Elazer get roflstomped by Rogue and Maru. The only foreigner that people enjoy watching play in GSL is Scarlett. And Scarlett's fans aren't all going to stop watching GSL because she can't play.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-24 09:16:04
January 24 2019 09:14 GMT
#36
On January 24 2019 18:04 Rodya wrote:
All the foreigners that have planned to play in GSL also plan to play in every single WCS event (there's no reason not to...). Don't act like this announcement would screw them over; they just get a slightly less money (unlikely that most of them would even qualify for GSL anyway).

And stop saying that viewership will plummet, no one likes to watch Elazer get roflstomped by Rogue and Maru. The only foreigner that people enjoy watching play in GSL is Scarlett. And Scarlett's fans aren't all going to stop watching GSL because she can't play.

Technically speaking mjr Special, Raynor and Neeb should be able to get into RO16. So while I agree on the Elazer thingy, at least these 3 are capable and won't get stomped.

On January 24 2019 17:12 pvsnp wrote:
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On January 24 2019 17:06 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:42 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:40 Waxangel wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:34 pvsnp wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:33 Waxangel wrote:
On January 24 2019 16:31 pvsnp wrote:
According to NoRegret:

From what I understand is, They can only not compete in WCS Challenger. They can still play in the main events of WCS. It shouldn't change too much but its a bit unfortunate because I don't think this accomplishes anything towards helping amateur Korean players.


So that's a pretty big difference. An official announcement from Blizzard would really be nice though.


That actually doesn't mean anything because WCS Challenger doesn't exist and hasn't been announced. It literally clarifies nothing.


If we take Noregret at his word, wouldn't that mean that WCS Challenger is confirmed?

Personally I don't think it's a huge stretch to imagine that WCS Challenger will be a thing in 2019, and they just haven't gotten around to announcing it yet. The WCS system doesn't just spring into existence the instant that Blizzard makes its official announcement.

And if I remember correctly, wasn't "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" the same deal that TRUE got?


Okay then you are literally just speculating. And that was not what happened to TRUE was at all—it was based around the # of days you need to reside in a Circuit region to stay eligible. Seriously I should just delete your posts because they are 90% misinformation.


With all due respect, isn't everyone in this thread speculating? We've got zero official information. What makes my speculation so egregious?

And here's the Blizzard announcement about TRUE, which is literally titled "TRUE Chooses GSL over Challenger." I get that TRUE being Korean means some visa and residency stuff, but doesn't it still boil down to "Either GSL or WCS Challenger" like I said?

Stop dragging TRUE into this, different thing.

TL, DR about TRUE: You have to live 30 days in the region before competing otherwise you're not eligible to compete as a Korean in WCS(#noRacism). Because of this shitty rule you cannot in these 30 days compete in GSL as GSL is an offline tournament. Therefore TRUE had to choose if he goes to Korea and competes in GSL and thus loses the possibility to compete in the next WCS or stays and gives up GSL.


Thanks for explaining.

I understand that TRUE, being Korean, is forced to follow the 30-day residency rule. So if what Noregret said is correct, this means foreigners would be able to play in GSL, fly out for a weekend to play in WCS (open bracket), and then return to play in GSL again. I think?

According to the old rules and ShoeRegret - yes, that's how I understand it as well.
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Last Edited: 2019-01-24 10:45:20
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#37
On January 24 2019 16:26 Zaros wrote:
Terrible decision and I wouldn't be surprised if it unintentionally finishes off Korean SC2, the biggest viewership for GSL comes when a foreigner is in the tournament and it is still pretty hard for them to qualify. Instead of seeing Serral or Neeb now we get to see emotion or nightmare or DRGLing (if they even play anymore.)

I know its not "fair" that foreigners can play in both series before now but it is what worked for the scene and I can't see many if any giving WCS up for GSL (means no blizzcon most likely and a huge prize money drop)

Terrible decision - we might see up and comers now this is stupid.
Don't give them the chance to qualify THE KOREAN SCENE MUST DIE


And it didn't work for the scene, it only worked for elitist foreigner fanboys who don't care about koreans getting fucked over.

Ask DRGling or ByuL if the system worked
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Last Edited: 2019-01-24 11:23:51
January 24 2019 11:23 GMT
#38
Can anyone tell me why scarlett can't compete in GSL as she live in Korea full time? Is the "30 days" rules doesn't apply here?
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January 24 2019 11:40 GMT
#39
On January 24 2019 19:34 Charoisaur wrote:
for elitist foreigner fanboys

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January 24 2019 11:53 GMT
#40
On January 24 2019 19:34 Charoisaur wrote:
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On January 24 2019 16:26 Zaros wrote:
Terrible decision and I wouldn't be surprised if it unintentionally finishes off Korean SC2, the biggest viewership for GSL comes when a foreigner is in the tournament and it is still pretty hard for them to qualify. Instead of seeing Serral or Neeb now we get to see emotion or nightmare or DRGLing (if they even play anymore.)

I know its not "fair" that foreigners can play in both series before now but it is what worked for the scene and I can't see many if any giving WCS up for GSL (means no blizzcon most likely and a huge prize money drop)

Terrible decision - we might see up and comers now this is stupid.
Don't give them the chance to qualify THE KOREAN SCENE MUST DIE


And it didn't work for the scene, it only worked for elitist foreigner fanboys who don't care about koreans getting fucked over.

Ask DRGling or ByuL if the system worked


We don't really know the exact terms of this decision, so we'd better wait before speaking; only koreans allowed in GSL would be consistent with the region lock now that apparently even EU and NA have separate leagues.

In any of case, you should ask GSL's organizers if the audience was indeed better when there were foreigners in the competition; as for newcomers, there were more than a few in 2017 and it most likely wasn't the "army of foreigners" to make them resign but the extremely top heavy prize distribution.
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