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v5872012
35 Posts
According to TIME and Cloudy, two Chinese progamer who was lived in Korea camp, said, non-korean players who play in GSL events cannot play in WCS events anymore since rules was changed. It was still not confirmed by Blizzard official. Sry about my bad english skill | ||
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LaughNgamez
Canada525 Posts
Players should have been able to know this months in advance. Blizzard delaying announcement/full rules for so long is messing with everyone. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On January 24 2019 15:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I have a very hard time believing we wouldn't have heard about this before now. If this is true, it's a really big blow to a lot of players plans. We'll have to get someone to confirm Extremely dick move to some of the only organizations still supporting their own scene. Root having just partnered with NoRegret and the foreigner house would be a huge middle finger. | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
On January 24 2019 15:23 chipmonklord17 wrote: Extremely dick move to some of the only organizations still supporting their own scene. Root having just partnered with NoRegret and the foreigner house would be a huge middle finger. Even if its true its still stupid, if they're willing to long term live in Korea that should make them eligible, but I digress. No need to have the same conversation the 10000000000th time The biggest dick move is that there were no announcement, and even if there was it came way too late. RIP to a lot of player's schedule and plans. | ||
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pzlama333
United States282 Posts
For my opinion, since WCS blocked all Korean players, it could be understood that GSL has the right to block all non-Korean, but they should announce it officially long ago, but not just an e-mail one day before the scheduled starts. I wonder GSL would not even have enough players to participate now. | ||
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busyghost
82 Posts
On January 24 2019 15:08 LaughNgamez wrote: IMO a great and fair decision but a very poorly handled one. Players should have been able to know this months in advance. Blizzard delaying announcement/full rules for so long is messing with everyone. I do not know. If this is true then the existence of NoRegret's foreign teamhouse becomes meaningless and the sponsors should just pull out. The biggest irony about WCS and GSL is in their names. "World" Championships Series and "Global" Starcraft II League. So now there are only three offline tournaments for Koreans to directly compete with Non-Koreans, IEM, GSL vs the World if it still exists and Blizzcon. | ||
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gpanda.sc2
20 Posts
On January 24 2019 15:30 pzlama333 wrote: According to TIME and the Chinese caster Xiaose's weibo (Chinese equivalent of facebook), this ban is requested by Korean, and all foreigners living in Korea are preparing to leave. weibo not an equivalent of fb, but twitter. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Kalera
United States338 Posts
On January 24 2019 15:30 pzlama333 wrote: According to TIME and the Chinese caster Xiaose's weibo (Chinese equivalent of facebook), this ban is requested by Korean, and all foreigners living in Korea are preparing to leave. For my opinion, since WCS blocked all Korean players, it could be understood that GSL has the right to block all non-Korean, but they should announce it officially long ago, but not just an e-mail one day before the scheduled starts. I wonder GSL would not even have enough players to participate now. I'd be pretty surprised if this changed was *pushed by AfreecaTV (GSL). They benefit from the viewership, and I think they would have mentioned it in the qualifier announcement if that was the case. In any case, it sounds like players are forced to pick one or the other, not a complete foreigner ban. Although most foreigners will probably opt to play in WCS since they are more likely to have success. I suspect it's a call made by Blizzard as they work out the details for the rest of the season. That is a pretty reasonable decision, however the fact that they still haven't released more than the bare minimum of information about this years events must be incredibly frustrating for the players in particular. Edit: Changed enforced to pushed to clarify | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
Assuming it is true, this sounds like the most even-handed approach. All players have the choice of either WCS or GSL, but not both. XOR for the win. On January 24 2019 15:47 Kalera wrote: I'd be pretty surprised if this was enforced by AfreecaTV (GSL). They benefit from the viewership, and I think they would have mentioned it in the qualifier announcement if that was the case. Given how this started with Solar's tweet, it's probably safe to assume that the Korean pros (Solar et al) requested this change, either to Blizzard directly or via AfreecaTV. As for enforcement, if Blizzard says it's the rules, then I can only assume that AfreecaTV will enforce them. | ||
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pzlama333
United States282 Posts
On January 24 2019 15:47 Kalera wrote: I'd be pretty surprised if this was enforced by AfreecaTV (GSL). They benefit from the viewership, and I think they would have mentioned it in the qualifier announcement if that was the case. In any case, it sounds like players are forced to pick one or the other, not a complete foreigner ban. Although most foreigners will probably opt to play in WCS since they are more likely to have success. I suspect it's a call made by Blizzard as they work out the details for the rest of the season. That is a pretty reasonable decision, however the fact that they still haven't released more than the bare minimum of information about this years events must be incredibly frustrating for the players in particular. Yea, it seems that those non-Koreans have to choose either GSL or WCS, but not both. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On January 24 2019 15:37 busyghost wrote: I do not know. If this is true then the existence of NoRegret's foreign teamhouse becomes meaningless and the sponsors should just pull out. The biggest irony about WCS and GSL is in their names. "World" Championships Series and "Global" Starcraft II League. So now there are only three offline tournaments for Koreans to directly compete with Non-Koreans, IEM, GSL vs the World if it still exists and Blizzcon. The Korean Circuit includes the GSL  | ||
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lechatnoir
392 Posts
But I guess this will finally shut some people up on this board. Edit: And this must be very recent since it didn't mention it in the afeeca post about the qualifiers? Maybe the reason they were moved a couple of days. Odd. | ||
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
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keaneu
Korea (South)65 Posts
On January 24 2019 16:03 lechatnoir wrote: Shame, that would mean the end for the unity house I guess. Lots of cool stuff came from that. But I guess this will finally shut some people up on this board. Edit: And this must be very recent since it didn't mention it in the afeeca post about the qualifiers? Maybe the reason they were moved a couple of days. Odd. Reason for delay was the patch hitting same-day. I doubt anyone would say that having the house is no longer viable for sponsors, given the low latency connection available for in-house players to a premier practice server, and sound participation in the local/CN online cups. | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
I know its not "fair" that foreigners can play in both series before now but it is what worked for the scene and I can't see many if any giving WCS up for GSL (means no blizzcon most likely and a huge prize money drop) | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On January 24 2019 15:37 busyghost wrote: I do not know. If this is true then the existence of NoRegret's foreign teamhouse becomes meaningless and the sponsors should just pull out. The biggest irony about WCS and GSL is in their names. "World" Championships Series and "Global" Starcraft II League. So now there are only three offline tournaments for Koreans to directly compete with Non-Koreans, IEM, GSL vs the World if it still exists and Blizzcon. Why the teamhouse would be come meaningless ? They would just play GSL | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
From what I understand is, They can only not compete in WCS Challenger. They can still play in the main events of WCS. It shouldn't change too much but its a bit unfortunate because I don't think this accomplishes anything towards helping amateur Korean players. So that's a pretty big difference. An official announcement from Blizzard would really be nice though. | ||
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