Caster Feedback Thread - Page 5

On July 24 2017 15:38 jpg06051992 wrote:


Um, yea, she's a girl in the Starcraft scene, I'd say considering she's probably 1 of 2 or 3 in the entire scene it's probably relevant to mention that biologically, she's out of place to say the least.

"It doesn't require any examinations like that though. You don't hear people say "for a really short guy, Nathanias knows his shit" or "for an indian guy, feardragon sure is great", it's just not necessary to add that detail."

Being a short guy or an Indian would be irrelevant to knowing anything about Starcraft while it's pretty safe to say that Starcraft is a borderline 100% male dominated sport all the way from the casters to the players, so being a girl strikes me as slightly more relevant.

Whatever, sorry you're offended, regardless she's a good caster, leagues better then her partner.

On July 24 2017 12:32 yhellothere12 wrote:
I honestly can't believe the strong reactions people have to this. I personally enjoy the variety we get in casters and casting styles. Sure there are some casters that I prefer to others, but I haven't run into a caster that has even brought me anywhere close to wanting to mute the stream.

On July 24 2017 16:06 VHbb wrote: Is there a biological different between man/woman which is important for commenting SC2 matches?

On July 24 2017 23:09 JimmyJRaynor wrote:

men are more violent in general.. and SC2 is violent. men commit more murders and violent crimes, thus, there might be a biological difference that makes males more attracted to violent video games with a large component of combat and death. more research is required in this area.
and so once u r drawn into the world of SC u r better equipped to commentate it. that could potentially be the biological connection.. . who knows.

On July 24 2017 16:27 gab12 wrote:
Gauntlet duo sadly makes one of the worst sc2 casting imo. Just cant listen to this wierd stupid no funny jokes and then their laugh for 3 minutes :/

On July 24 2017 01:26 feardragon wrote:
I think you can but don't expect them to read it. The quality of someone's casting can be heavily affected by the mood you're in. Accepting criticism, even if it's phrased very kindly, can mess with your head during or before a broadcast so a lot of casters avoid it, sometimes entirely.

Sometimes when you word something somewhat kindly it also will be interpreted the wrong way because casters, personalities and players are constantly dealing with people trying to take jabs at them. You develop something of an over-sensitivity to those kinds of backhanded comments after a while that aren't intended to provide actual criticism, but to just put you down. Likewise, I think fans of certain commentators/personalities/players begin to feel the same. I am a huge fan of a lot of NA players and I know I sometimes get overly defensive when people criticize some of them because it's an oversensitivity I've developed.

Also keep in mind that casters won't always listen to the criticism not because they don't care what you have to say but they don't agree with it. And I don't mean in a "your opinion doesn't matter" kinda way but just that casting is a subjective thing and ultimately every caster is chasing "their vision" of what a caster should be. Sometimes they'll make decisions about their casting you don't agree with because that's what fits their image more, even if it doesn't fit yours.

Combine all that with effective criticism being hard to give as well as hard to take and it becomes really hard to give criticism for a commentator without someone reacting negatively.

On July 25 2017 00:33 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:

I respect what you've done for SC2, along with all the casters, but you can't be close-minded to criticism if you intend to be in front of an audience.

If you put yourself out there, you have to expect people to take jabs at you. It's part of the job and being overly sensitive to what people say will only inhibit you.

The hard part isn't accepting criticism, but filtering out the trolls from the genuine criticism. As well, you need to consider if there is something you can do with the criticism.

Being a caster is incredibly tough, and I appreciate how much effort everyone puts in, but not caring about criticism can be detrimental if you plan on making a full-time career out of it.

When Tasteless first started casting, he did research on casting. He looked at different sports casters and found a voice based on his research. He sought to improve his skill set.

The bottom line, you have to have a thick skin if you put yourself in front of an audience. And you have to consider if there is something you should change based on what people say. Don't ignore it.

On July 25 2017 01:39 feardragon wrote:

It's not about not accepting criticism. It's about accepting criticism from trusted sources. It's also weird you bring up Tasteless because he also does not read reddit/TL and actively avoids reading that kind of stuff himself. As far as I'm aware from interviews and such, he relies on people he trusts to provide feedback. Even in your example it's doing research on your own, looking to other voices and finding ways to improve. That's entirely different than taking to reddit/TL and reading through a thread titled something like "Here's why Tasteless is a bad commentator" or something.

The point that you're missing is that it's not about stagnation and not improving because you can't take feedback. It's about getting feedback from people you can trust and seeking to improve yourself into the image of a commentator you want to be. Becoming an amalgamation of 10,000 people's images of a commentator is a setup for failure if you don't have a clear image yourself of who you want to be.

On July 23 2017 13:07 rapidtransit247 wrote:
Just @ me

On July 25 2017 06:33 Xamo wrote:

Artosis also sometimes laughs uncontrollably in the middle of a cast, and you do not mention him. Perhaps it is just that you do not share the same sense of humor.

On July 25 2017 08:11 Espartaquen wrote:


Artosis laughs are way less annoying and dare I say dont feel fake, usually both Tasteless or Artosis have a decent reason to be laughing as it seems that when they cast they are just two best friends having loads of fun, their chemistry is THAT good , but Rapid has some moments when I´d say it is totally uncalled for to be laughing histerically as nothing really funny or amazing is happening during the cast.
Still, this is not bashing, I think he has a good style that makes him very flexible and adaptable to the other commentators he is working with, he just has to improve on this aspect because I strongly believe I cannot be the only one annoyed when he does this.