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On May 25 2022 01:56 ejozl wrote:
I like Rapid. I find it super annoying that the situation is such that now he doesn't get hired because of a harmless joke like this.
Iirc he had a habit of telling a weird sob story about how his dick was too big to like every woman he met in the industry. That's not a harmless joke, that's a pattern of creepy behavior. That shit is sexual harassment.
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Northern Ireland27287 Posts
On May 25 2022 01:56 ejozl wrote:
I like Rapid. I find it super annoying that the situation is such that now he doesn't get hired because of a harmless joke like this.
If it was a harmless joke he wouldn’t be blacklisted.
Oh noes, basic standards of behaviour for professionals.
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On May 25 2022 01:56 ejozl wrote:
I like Rapid. I find it super annoying that the situation is such that now he doesn't get hired because of a harmless joke like this.
There was a lot of discussion about this on TL when it happened, but this is not what I'd call a "harmless joke": https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sr9kev
Other girls/women came forward with similar stories about him as well. I don't think he was looking for laughs.
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Canada8990 Posts
Well this is a very upsetting 3 year bump
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I can make this a less upsetting bump by commenting on King of Battles.
Listening to the commentators being polite and friendly towards each other when they are talking at the same time was partly sweet and partly awkward. All parties backed down and apologised every time. "Oh, sorry!" "No, you go ahead!"
Nice to see such a kind atmosphere!
However, it took away a lot from the entertainment experience.
The final day had Artosis there alongside Beomulf. Beo started doing that polite thing but Artosis didn't play along. The entertainment experience grew and Beomulf adapted.
I was glad to see such kindness and politeness but I enjoyed the Artosis way more.
I am split about what I think about it.
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This might be an online thing. It's much easier not to talk across one another (and not be afraid of that) if you're in the same room and can see each other.
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Definitely feedback for the recent ESL. Sadly, I had to give it a miss because Wardii was casting. I know I'm not alone on this, He's never been very well received, since the beginning. He has always lacked the enthusiasm for play-by-play, but also the game insight to do analysis. His old tournaments were a lot of silence mixed with incorrect interjections as he didn't allow any other casters as his goal was to promote himself and get a name in the community. He did succeed through perseverance which I think we all respect, but frankly he just doesn't have the play-by-play enthusiasm, analytical ability or just likability as a person to be a premier league caster. I couldn't put the ESL on around my girlfriend with Wardii casting because it could be embarrassing.
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On May 25 2022 17:21 Drfilip wrote:
I can make this a less upsetting bump by commenting on King of Battles.
Listening to the commentators being polite and friendly towards each other when they are talking at the same time was partly sweet and partly awkward. All parties backed down and apologised every time. "Oh, sorry!" "No, you go ahead!"
Nice to see such a kind atmosphere!
However, it took away a lot from the entertainment experience.
The final day had Artosis there alongside Beomulf. Beo started doing that polite thing but Artosis didn't play along. The entertainment experience grew and Beomulf adapted.
I was glad to see such kindness and politeness but I enjoyed the Artosis way more.
I am split about what I think about it.
I really like Beomulf, to the point where I find his vocal tic (if you play a drinking game where he says "on down," "on in," or something like that, you have 30 minutes to live), more endearing than anything else. I really like the new crop of casters we're getting from the AlphaXSC2 channel in general.
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On May 26 2022 08:57 E-Volving wrote:
Definitely feedback for the recent ESL. Sadly, I had to give it a miss because Wardii was casting. I know I'm not alone on this, He's never been very well received, since the beginning. He has always lacked the enthusiasm for play-by-play, but also the game insight to do analysis. His old tournaments were a lot of silence mixed with incorrect interjections as he didn't allow any other casters as his goal was to promote himself and get a name in the community. He did succeed through perseverance which I think we all respect, but frankly he just doesn't have the play-by-play enthusiasm, analytical ability or just likability as a person to be a premier league caster. I couldn't put the ESL on around my girlfriend with Wardii casting because it could be embarrassing.
Wardii's a guy I give a lot of respect to because he was cranking out a ton of content during the early stages of the pandemic, when we really needed it. I'm used to him solo casting on his Twitch/YT channel, so asking for subs/reading donations/standard Twitch stuff doesn't bother me. I will admit I'm not terribly familiar with him in a standard two-person booth. Also, he seems to have a weird insecurity about people bashing him, but as far as I know this is kinda the only thread like this, and it's been dormant for years. Is there a giant caster-bashing community in the SC Reddit community?
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Northern Ireland27287 Posts
On May 27 2022 05:49 ScrappyRabbit wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2022 08:57 E-Volving wrote:
Definitely feedback for the recent ESL. Sadly, I had to give it a miss because Wardii was casting. I know I'm not alone on this, He's never been very well received, since the beginning. He has always lacked the enthusiasm for play-by-play, but also the game insight to do analysis. His old tournaments were a lot of silence mixed with incorrect interjections as he didn't allow any other casters as his goal was to promote himself and get a name in the community. He did succeed through perseverance which I think we all respect, but frankly he just doesn't have the play-by-play enthusiasm, analytical ability or just likability as a person to be a premier league caster. I couldn't put the ESL on around my girlfriend with Wardii casting because it could be embarrassing. Wardii's a guy I give a lot of respect to because he was cranking out a ton of content during the early stages of the pandemic, when we really needed it. I'm used to him solo casting on his Twitch/YT channel, so asking for subs/reading donations/standard Twitch stuff doesn't bother me. I will admit I'm not terribly familiar with him in a standard two-person booth. Also, he seems to have a weird insecurity about people bashing him, but as far as I know this is kinda the only thread like this, and it's been dormant for years. Is there a giant caster-bashing community in the SC Reddit community?
He’s a great figure for the good of the wider community, and 100% respect for the work he’s done there.
He’s just not a top tier caster, IMO, but that’s fine provided he’s partnered with someone who is
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On May 25 2022 02:51 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2022 01:56 ejozl wrote:
I like Rapid. I find it super annoying that the situation is such that now he doesn't get hired because of a harmless joke like this. If it was a harmless joke he wouldn’t be blacklisted. Oh noes, basic standards of behaviour for professionals.
Well, I think my issue is then that the industry is too sensitive. I think we don't often see organizations standing up for people who are catching flack from the community.
As for Waardi, I think he really improved a ton and I've come to enjoy his casting at premier events. For his regular casts I do mute him though, as so to have other stuff on.
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I miss incontrol
casting is better when they're real friends doing it.. you can tell the difference.
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Northern Ireland27287 Posts
On May 27 2022 20:14 ejozl wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2022 02:51 WombaT wrote:On May 25 2022 01:56 ejozl wrote:
I like Rapid. I find it super annoying that the situation is such that now he doesn't get hired because of a harmless joke like this. If it was a harmless joke he wouldn’t be blacklisted. Oh noes, basic standards of behaviour for professionals. Well, I think my issue is then that the industry is too sensitive. I think we don't often see organizations standing up for people who are catching flack from the community. As for Waardi, I think he really improved a ton and I've come to enjoy his casting at premier events. For his regular casts I do mute him though, as so to have other stuff on.
Yeah he’s good when he’s paired with a good analyst, especially when the chemistry is good.
I’m not sure what the industry should do here, as it stands there’s already some talented casters who’ve left the scene as there’s not enough gigs to go around. A fair few of the names mentioned in this thread no longer cast SC2 for this very reason.
Why would I hire someone who’s been accused of sexual harassment in and around events? By multiple people.
I don’t agree with a witch hunt for anyone making a joke that didn’t land or w/e, that’s not really what occurred in this instance
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Bumping this to give some (overdue) love to State, he had some absolutely massive shoes to fill at GSL and I thought he did a great job. I'm not sure we needed another Protoss player, but that seems to be the race of choice for casters.
It is always nice to get the POV of someone who played at an extremely high level -- even if State wasn't a high-level pro or playing many televised games, the level he reached is still fairly unfathomable for the average, or even "good" gamer.
His game knowledge was really good. By his own admission, he was less comfortable in matchups that didn't involve a Protoss, but it seems like he's going to be working on that and he still had a good idea of what was going on in the matchups that, in his own words, "aren't his forte."
His chemistry with Tasteless was great -- he keeps things professional without being too glum, has a good sense of humor without trying to make himself the star of the show, and has a good sense of when to go off on a tangent and when to keep the focus on the action. Long live Stateless!
Elsewhere, I've recently been getting into PiG's solo cast stream and his game knowledge is absolutely spooky at this point. If he's doing some sort of Bear Grylls thing where he's watching the replays ahead of time and pretending to watch them fresh, I would be legitimately heartbroken. (I don't think he's doing that, for the record, but he's just that darn good at reading the SC2 meta right now. Also, he's the first commenter I can remember who really points out details I would have missed, like specific army positionings and macro mistakes. The latter has been particularly enlightening, I'd actually love to see him retro-cast some games when Inno was in his absolute prime to really point out how his macro allowed him to be so dominant.
The job Wardii has been doing as a content creator alone deserves a ton of credit, he's just been an absolutely crucial part of the scene when the scene was struggling.
Finally, I got into ASL for the first time during the GSL hiatus and really enjoyed it. I'll keep it brief because this is an SC2 forum, but kind of amazing how Artosis is my favorite SC2 caster of all time when he so clearly loves Brood War more and is noticeably more on top of the meta for that game. Man's got talent.
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