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Pig, Rotti, ToD, Incontrol are all GMs and know soooo much about sc2.
Artosis is obivously also up there, he just studies the game so much.
Maynarde and Tasteless know enough, but they aren't there for analysis obviously (despite that Maynarde improved greatly in that aspect, huge respect to him for learning the game and becoming a better player, it did not go unnoticed!). They are crucial for other reasons and bring the hype and tempo. Casters have different roles.
At BlizzCon we always have more new viewers than usual, so explaining basic stuff is also more important than ever. Overall they hit a nice balance I think and the casts are great imo. Sure there is some bias and they go a bit over the top sometimes when they hype certain players or storylines, but that's probably what Blizzard wants I guess.
Overall great job as usual!
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I think tasteless gets more focus than he deserves for his "color" only cast, when its a role he chose to be at. He can be in the analytical role with no problem and he has been a consistent master protoss player since the release of the game, and he can probably still reach masters in korea easily. And he has been shown in alternative events capable of doing the game analysis, although I think that this day and age most analysis are weak compared to back then or I got way better and I dont value it much anymore I guess.
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doing pre-tournament online qualifiers is a thankless, long grind.
so thanks to ZombieGrub and Wardi (and Maynarde did some co-casting with ZG).
i hope they get an on air role in the glamourous/high-profile live event if they want one.
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Canada8990 Posts
While I see this thread:
I really hope they give Rifkin an offline cast this year, I know he isn't everyone cup of tea and that there is already a good number of other casters that are perhaps more suited to the WCS feel, but after 5 years of casting endless online cup and qualifier and putting on tournament they could really give him the spotlight one time. It's not gonna kill any one to have him 3-4 match in a WCS stop and the guy deserve it.
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On January 10 2019 03:25 Nakajin wrote:
While I see this thread:
I really hope they give Rifkin an offline cast this year, I know he isn't everyone cup of tea and that there is already a good number of other casters that are perhaps more suited to the WCS feel, but after 5 years of casting endless online cup and qualifier and putting on tournament they could really give him the spotlight one time. It's not gonna kill any one to have him 3-4 match in a WCS stop and the guy deserve it.
Yeah no you seem to be implying that the only reason people don't like Rifkin is becaue "he isn't everyone's cup of tea" or that he isn't suited to WCS.
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Canada8990 Posts
On January 11 2019 02:51 207aicila wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2019 03:25 Nakajin wrote:
While I see this thread:
I really hope they give Rifkin an offline cast this year, I know he isn't everyone cup of tea and that there is already a good number of other casters that are perhaps more suited to the WCS feel, but after 5 years of casting endless online cup and qualifier and putting on tournament they could really give him the spotlight one time. It's not gonna kill any one to have him 3-4 match in a WCS stop and the guy deserve it. Yeah no you seem to be implying that the only reason people don't like Rifkin is becaue "he isn't everyone's cup of tea" or that he isn't suited to WCS.
Meh I don't follow all the drama stuff.
I know he has a habit to rant and make trouble with other people in the scene, but it's not like he is a child molester and he has always paid his player as far as I know. He's the only big english caster who has not have the chance to do offline cast, ZG-Wardi-Feardragon-Maynarde all got to cast WCS and he does have a good number of fans (I wouldn't necessarily say I'm one of them I don't really watch BTTV).
Let's face it, we are probably closer to the end of WCS than the start and it would be nice to give one of the biggest personality, who did put an enormous amount of hours and money in the scene, a chance to have an offline cast before it's all over.
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On January 11 2019 03:33 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2019 02:51 207aicila wrote:On January 10 2019 03:25 Nakajin wrote:
While I see this thread:
I really hope they give Rifkin an offline cast this year, I know he isn't everyone cup of tea and that there is already a good number of other casters that are perhaps more suited to the WCS feel, but after 5 years of casting endless online cup and qualifier and putting on tournament they could really give him the spotlight one time. It's not gonna kill any one to have him 3-4 match in a WCS stop and the guy deserve it. Yeah no you seem to be implying that the only reason people don't like Rifkin is becaue "he isn't everyone's cup of tea" or that he isn't suited to WCS. Meh I don't follow all the drama stuff. I know he has a habit to rant and make trouble with other people in the scene, but it's not like he is a child molester and he has always paid his player as far as I know. He's the only big english caster who has not have the chance to do offline cast, ZG-Wardi-Feardragon-Maynarde all got to cast WCS and he does have a good number of fans (I wouldn't necessarily say I'm one of them I don't really watch BTTV). Let's face it, we are probably closer to the end of WCS than the start and it would be nice to give one of the biggest personality, who did put an enormous amount of hours and money in the scene, a chance to have an offline cast before it's all over.
I agree with this, he definitely deserves it. I also think his casting is very decent even if it's of course not on Tastosis/Rotti level.
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In regards to HSC 19, wanted to say that the casting I've seen so far has been great and so too has been the banter with/amongst the players.
Special shout out to GrantSC2 and Sk1p in production. Grant really grew on me as I watched the B stream - keep up the great work.
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Which group is creighton? as i want to vote for him and Artosis. Creighton is well spoken and professional as well as knowledgeable and witty. personally i cant stand no regret. i can see he has a deep understanding of the game and whats happening , however his delivery is very poor and he is not well spoken, For example, NoRegret regularly throughout all of his says why is he doing this he should do this or if he does this he would be fine, which i believe to be poor delivery. Whereas Artosis would say "i dont know about this move out here" which brings excitement and hype or "the next step here for "Player name is to defend and move into a higher tech" (which also helps the new watchers of GSL)
But yes Tastosis is the ultimate caster however if there was to be a fill in i would 100% vote to Artosis and Creighton
(movig my comment here as per TL request to not have posts in recent GSL casters)
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i really like the Maynarde//Rotterdam combo. IMO both of these guys put themselves over by not putting themselves over.
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Ok, I really like the developing chemistry between Creighton and NoRegret but I have some honest critiques.
NoRegret needs to tone it back with calling outcomes before they happen. It's fine to do it on occasion, but NoRegret is rapid fire with these and when they're wrong it becomes really distracting from the game. Not saying he needs to STOP doing it, he just needs to tone it back.
Creighton, needs to just slow down. Slow down my man! I know you're nervous, I know you're excited, but CALM DOWN and let us actually understand you! I used to make this same mistake when I was casting, and I'd find myself tripping over my words and phrases and ending up sounding like a mumbling moron. Slow it down dude! Slow down your speech to about 70% of your current rate and your casting will improve in spades.
Overall though, I really dig the potential these two have. For how messy the games were and how messy the casting was tonight at parts, it was damn entertaining.
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Grant at Asus Rog is doing good, who is he?^^. Have I heard him on Basetrade before?
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I gotta say Grant is doing very well as a caster. I like his casting quite a bit. It is unfortunate that his hiring drama is kind of overshadowing his debut a bit.
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hmmm ..... I don't have any constructive feedback.
I came from bw on may 29th of this year, I feel the biggest thing I missed by sticking to only bw for all these years ... is the plethora of entertaining and insightful casters.
Thank all of you and a special thanks to those of you who work to keep your game knowledge current and share on stream.
Drink your tea with honey and keep going. Meow!
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Shoutout to Grant for doing a pretty good job at ASUS.
This was his first actual event right? I think the the biggest thing to work on for a future cast is to let the other commentator fill in some more. There was a few times where he over hyped potential momentum swings when analysis would have been better suited for the situation.
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personally, i cant watch the noregret / cadenzie combo. its clear cadenzie knows what's shes talking about but her presentation is something i can't bear to watch. As for noregret, he's defensive towards other casters and just not funny.
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Northern Ireland27287 Posts
On August 08 2019 18:53 GrandSmurf wrote:
personally, i cant watch the noregret / cadenzie combo. its clear cadenzie knows what's shes talking about but her presentation is something i can't bear to watch. As for noregret, he's defensive towards other casters and just not funny.
I think they’re both fine individually, maybe not a great combo as their relative weaknesses overlap a bit and they have similar strengths.
One thing I hope for Blizzcon especially is let the analysts loose a bit and give them more of the downtime to break down games. Where games where won and lost, sick plays that maybe the observer even missed etc.
As it stands hosts admirably fill downtime but it often feels like time is just being killed rather than used well.
It also makes a space for those whose skillset is primarily in pure game knowledge to have a specialist role in productions.
NoRegret I think is a good bit better with more experience, to take one example, but there’d be times he’d be making some insightful point about the game flow and strategy, but something would happen somewhere that needed commented on and he’d be interrupted/talk over what was on screen.
You wouldn’t have these problems with an analyst desk writing notes as a game goes and then doing a more in depth recap in downtime.
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OP here -- this thread was indeed made about Reid "Rapid" Melton, so it made things easier when it turned out he had some weird stuff towards women IRL.
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On May 24 2022 21:25 ScrappyRabbit wrote:
OP here -- this thread was indeed made about Reid "Rapid" Melton, so it made things easier when it turned out he had some weird stuff towards women IRL.
Lol I couldn't stand his casting either and always got weird vibes from him. His special endowment must have been stealing all the blood away from his brain 
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I like Rapid. I find it super annoying that the situation is such that now he doesn't get hired because of a harmless joke like this.
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