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The Caster Feedback Thread is a place to provide constructive criticism and give thanks to community casters. Please do not use this thread to needlessly whine and bash casters. Be mindful of this when you post.
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
July 23 2017 17:25 GMT
#61
I like all SC2 casters right now and love some of them. Come to think of it there was only one caster i really disliked and he is no longer in SC, nor any other game i think.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17785 Posts
July 23 2017 17:43 GMT
#62
On July 24 2017 01:30 Seeker wrote:
Thread has been renamed. From now on, all constructive criticism and feedback toward casters will go here. This thread will be moderated and watched carefully so be wary of what you post!

thx for keeping this thread open and being willing to devote moderation resources to the topic. it will probably turn out to be a pretty thankless task.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
jpg06051992
Profile Joined July 2015
United States580 Posts
July 23 2017 17:46 GMT
#63
Wolf is really good, well rounded, decent humor and good game knowledge

Valdez needs to film himself or at least listen to himself objectively, his humor is mega awkward and usually badly timed, he also comes off as extremely negative alot of the times. He has good game knowledge but I often hear him just reiterating what Wolf said but less eloquently and more cringey.

ZombieGrub is good I don't understand the hate she gets, for a girl she really knows what she's talking about, honestly Rifkin is the worst caster ever, mediocre game knowledge combined with maximum cringe mode side humor/commentary.
"SO MANY BANELINGS!"
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 23 2017 17:54 GMT
#64
On July 24 2017 02:46 jpg06051992 wrote:
Wolf is really good, well rounded, decent humor and good game knowledge

Valdez needs to film himself or at least listen to himself objectively, his humor is mega awkward and usually badly timed, he also comes off as extremely negative alot of the times. He has good game knowledge but I often hear him just reiterating what Wolf said but less eloquently and more cringey.

ZombieGrub is good I don't understand the hate she gets, for a girl she really knows what she's talking about, honestly Rifkin is the worst caster ever, mediocre game knowledge combined with maximum cringe mode side humor/commentary.

"for a girl"

really?
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17785 Posts
July 23 2017 18:05 GMT
#65
On July 24 2017 02:46 jpg06051992 wrote:ZombieGrub is good I don't understand the hate she gets, for a girl she really knows what she's talking about

is this a triple entedre reverse psychology counter-troll?

i think when assessing a caster you must consider the production resources at their disposal. A person casting with a team of 8 people handling every aspect of the production for a 2 hour show has everything going in their favour for creating a solid show/cast. OTOH, in the early days of BTTV you had 2 people handling everything doing 12 hour broadcasts. You're going to get rough spots under those conditions. ZombieGrub and Rifkin aren't going to provide John Madden level commentary for every minute of a 12 hour extended marathon.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
July 23 2017 18:15 GMT
#66
ToD my favorite :blush:

So smooth, relaxed, not forcing anything. Like his balance between the extremes that other casters often go to. <3
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
July 23 2017 19:38 GMT
#67
Can't say I dislike any of the casters, you are all doing a brilliant job keep up the good work!
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 23:22:01
July 23 2017 22:39 GMT
#68
On July 24 2017 02:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:46 jpg06051992 wrote:
Wolf is really good, well rounded, decent humor and good game knowledge

Valdez needs to film himself or at least listen to himself objectively, his humor is mega awkward and usually badly timed, he also comes off as extremely negative alot of the times. He has good game knowledge but I often hear him just reiterating what Wolf said but less eloquently and more cringey.

ZombieGrub is good I don't understand the hate she gets, for a girl she really knows what she's talking about, honestly Rifkin is the worst caster ever, mediocre game knowledge combined with maximum cringe mode side humor/commentary.

"for a girl"

really?


Esports is heavily male, starcraft is nearly 100% male, for any woman to be compared to other casters REQUIRES one to examine the fact that she has a GLARING biological difference, that's how data works. Just because someone calls someone what they are does not make it sexist. This is not a liberal arts campus, calm down.

I have no opinion on ZG casting. I stopped watching BTTV when they started getting preachy.
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 23:22:09
July 23 2017 22:57 GMT
#69
On July 24 2017 07:39 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:46 jpg06051992 wrote:
Wolf is really good, well rounded, decent humor and good game knowledge

Valdez needs to film himself or at least listen to himself objectively, his humor is mega awkward and usually badly timed, he also comes off as extremely negative alot of the times. He has good game knowledge but I often hear him just reiterating what Wolf said but less eloquently and more cringey.

ZombieGrub is good I don't understand the hate she gets, for a girl she really knows what she's talking about, honestly Rifkin is the worst caster ever, mediocre game knowledge combined with maximum cringe mode side humor/commentary.

"for a girl"

really?


Esports is heavily male, starcraft is nearly 100% male, for any woman to be compared to other casters REQUIRES one to examine the fact that she has a GLARING biological difference, that's how data works. Just because someone calls someone what they are does not make it sexist. This is not a liberal arts campus, calm down.

I have no opinion on ZG casting. I stopped watching BTTV when they started getting preachy.


Just curious, when/how did BTTV get preachy? Didn't get to see this as I personally stopped following them the moment they started promoting a website that allows for the selling of stolen game keys and extorts its customers. Also their mods ban you in their chat if you point out how that website hurts developers' livelihoods.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 23:22:20
July 23 2017 23:03 GMT
#70
On July 24 2017 07:39 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:46 jpg06051992 wrote:
Wolf is really good, well rounded, decent humor and good game knowledge

Valdez needs to film himself or at least listen to himself objectively, his humor is mega awkward and usually badly timed, he also comes off as extremely negative alot of the times. He has good game knowledge but I often hear him just reiterating what Wolf said but less eloquently and more cringey.

ZombieGrub is good I don't understand the hate she gets, for a girl she really knows what she's talking about, honestly Rifkin is the worst caster ever, mediocre game knowledge combined with maximum cringe mode side humor/commentary.

"for a girl"

really?


Esports is heavily male, starcraft is nearly 100% male, for any woman to be compared to other casters REQUIRES one to examine the fact that she has a GLARING biological difference, that's how data works. Just because someone calls someone what they are does not make it sexist. This is not a liberal arts campus, calm down.

I have no opinion on ZG casting. I stopped watching BTTV when they started getting preachy.

It doesn't require any examinations like that though. You don't hear people say "for a really short guy, Nathanias knows his shit" or "for an indian guy, feardragon sure is great", it's just not necessary to add that detail.

On July 24 2017 07:57 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 07:39 LongShot27 wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:46 jpg06051992 wrote:
Wolf is really good, well rounded, decent humor and good game knowledge

Valdez needs to film himself or at least listen to himself objectively, his humor is mega awkward and usually badly timed, he also comes off as extremely negative alot of the times. He has good game knowledge but I often hear him just reiterating what Wolf said but less eloquently and more cringey.

ZombieGrub is good I don't understand the hate she gets, for a girl she really knows what she's talking about, honestly Rifkin is the worst caster ever, mediocre game knowledge combined with maximum cringe mode side humor/commentary.

"for a girl"

really?


Esports is heavily male, starcraft is nearly 100% male, for any woman to be compared to other casters REQUIRES one to examine the fact that she has a GLARING biological difference, that's how data works. Just because someone calls someone what they are does not make it sexist. This is not a liberal arts campus, calm down.

I have no opinion on ZG casting. I stopped watching BTTV when they started getting preechy.


Just curious, when/how did BTTV get preachy? Didn't get to see this as I personally stopped following them the moment they started promoting a website that allows for the selling of stolen game keys and extorts its customers. Also their mods ban you in their chat if you point out how that website hurts developers' livelihoods.

They aren't sponsored by G2A anymore, just fyi
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
July 23 2017 23:17 GMT
#71
I miss Apollo's casting a lot
ScrappyRabbit
Profile Joined March 2016
200 Posts
July 23 2017 23:35 GMT
#72
I liked Moonglade a lot, even though he wasn't a fan of Innovation and Flash, my 2 favorite players, and didn't like robotic macro play, my favorite kind of play. He had a cool accent, was confident about the game, knew his stuff from having been a recent pro, and was a Zerg main, which is all too rare among casters.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17785 Posts
July 24 2017 00:23 GMT
#73
On July 24 2017 08:17 starkiller123 wrote:
I miss Apollo's casting a lot

Apollo was excellent. Any one know why Apollo is no longer around?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 24 2017 00:28 GMT
#74
On July 24 2017 09:23 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 08:17 starkiller123 wrote:
I miss Apollo's casting a lot

Apollo was excellent. Any one know why Apollo is no longer around?

He got a higher up job at ESL, Production Manager or something like that, that keeps him busy.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
July 24 2017 00:29 GMT
#75
On July 24 2017 09:23 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 08:17 starkiller123 wrote:
I miss Apollo's casting a lot

Apollo was excellent. Any one know why Apollo is no longer around?


Apollo is now a producer for the ESL and currently lives in Los Angeles. And since Apollo's time is now taken up doing the behind-the-scenes work, he's retired from casting for now.
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
Ensiferum8
Profile Joined March 2014
Canada103 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-24 01:49:39
July 24 2017 01:37 GMT
#76
God tier:

Tasteless
Artosis
Day 9
Kevin Knocke (any old fans remember him?)
Moonglade
Wolf
Total Biscuit

Good Tier:

Apollo
Kaelaris
Mr Bitter (with rotterdam)
Khaldor

So-so tier:

Nathanias
Rotterdam
Incontrol

Bad tier:

ToD
Axeltoss (good voice, 0 knowledge)
Rifkin
ZombieGrub

Whats your opinion bois? agree with that?
WCS is a shitty joke, with racist rules. Support players who deserves it instead of foreigner scrubs who dont work half as much as koreans. JUN TAEYANG IS THE BEST <3
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-24 01:40:54
July 24 2017 01:40 GMT
#77
On July 24 2017 10:37 Ensiferum8 wrote:
God tier:

Tasteless
Artosis
Day 9
Kevin Knocke (any old fan remember him?
Moonglade
Wolf
Total Biscuit

Good Tier:

Apollo
Kaelaris
Mr Bitter (with rotterdam)
Khaldor

So-so tier:

Nathanias
Rotterdam
Incontrol

Bad tier:

ToD
Axeltoss (good voice, 0 knowledge)
Rifkin
ZombieGrub

Whats your opinion bois? agree with that?


What is wrong with ToD? I have been loving his casting lately, same with Rotti and Incontrol, I think I prefer all 3 of them over Tasteless who I still think is pretty good

I 100% agree about Rifkin thou, he just bothers me
Ensiferum8
Profile Joined March 2014
Canada103 Posts
July 24 2017 02:17 GMT
#78
On July 24 2017 10:40 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 10:37 Ensiferum8 wrote:
God tier:

Tasteless
Artosis
Day 9
Kevin Knocke (any old fan remember him?
Moonglade
Wolf
Total Biscuit

Good Tier:

Apollo
Kaelaris
Mr Bitter (with rotterdam)
Khaldor

So-so tier:

Nathanias
Rotterdam
Incontrol

Bad tier:

ToD
Axeltoss (good voice, 0 knowledge)
Rifkin
ZombieGrub

Whats your opinion bois? agree with that?


What is wrong with ToD? I have been loving his casting lately, same with Rotti and Incontrol, I think I prefer all 3 of them over Tasteless who I still think is pretty good

I 100% agree about Rifkin thou, he just bothers me

Tod was always one of my least favorite (with PiG that i forgot to rank).
First i really dislike his accent (even though im french canadian, i still dislike his accent). Also, i always thought he was one of the most bias caster (not sure if that an opinion or a fact). For rotti, i also dislike his accent (maybe im just quite picky vs non native english speaker ) but hes not bias much so thats why hes higher than Tod. (when he was with mr bitter, he would even be close to god tier). And honestly, i think incontrol can be funny, but he tries way too hard to be funny, and for me, too much is like not enough. I mainly watch the sc2 for the gameplay and to cheer for my fav players, not for the comedy aspect (unless im watching non korean gameplay )
WCS is a shitty joke, with racist rules. Support players who deserves it instead of foreigner scrubs who dont work half as much as koreans. JUN TAEYANG IS THE BEST <3
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
July 24 2017 03:17 GMT
#79
I think I finally figured out what bothers me so much about the basetradeTV stream. There's no music on it at all, so the awkward silences and the "umms and uhhs" are so much more noticeable and difficult to listen to.

They need to enable the in game music and turn it up. Their stream is really hard for me to watch most of the time, even though Zombiegrub is great.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
yhellothere12
Profile Joined November 2016
46 Posts
July 24 2017 03:32 GMT
#80
I honestly can't believe the strong reactions people have to this. I personally enjoy the variety we get in casters and casting styles. Sure there are some casters that I prefer to others, but I haven't run into a caster that has even brought me anywhere close to wanting to mute the stream.

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