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The Caster Feedback Thread is a place to provide constructive criticism and give thanks to community casters. Please do not use this thread to needlessly whine and bash casters. Be mindful of this when you post.
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
July 31 2017 03:14 GMT
#101
On July 31 2017 10:55 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The casting of IEM Shanghai was very good.

Thanks mate!
CommentatorAustralian SC2 Caster | Twitter: @MaynardeSC2 | Twitch: twitch.tv/maynarde
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States711 Posts
July 31 2017 06:11 GMT
#102
Constructive feedback for casters.

I think generally, pointing out the perfect way something can be done in theory is less exciting than focusing on the merits of what is being done. Also, I think casters are too often calling games as won before the game is over. Just stop doing that. It's lazy casting.

Also, stop trying to be better than each other. Team players. That's why Tastosis is so amazing. They don't want to one-up each other.

Mostly, I've been super satisfied with a lot of the casters though
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
maddogmcgee
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia105 Posts
July 31 2017 07:59 GMT
#103
On July 25 2017 08:11 Espartaquen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 06:33 Xamo wrote:
On July 24 2017 14:01 Espartaquen wrote:
There´s this one issue I have with Rapid, just one, his laugh, for me it just breaks the mood when he starts laughing uncontrollably in the middle of the game, for the rest, he seems like a cool addition to those that cast Korean games, keep up the work.

Artosis also sometimes laughs uncontrollably in the middle of a cast, and you do not mention him. Perhaps it is just that you do not share the same sense of humor.


Artosis laughs are way less annoying and dare I say dont feel fake, usually both Tasteless or Artosis have a decent reason to be laughing as it seems that when they cast they are just two best friends having loads of fun, their chemistry is THAT good , but Rapid has some moments when I´d say it is totally uncalled for to be laughing histerically as nothing really funny or amazing is happening during the cast.
Still, this is not bashing, I think he has a good style that makes him very flexible and adaptable to the other commentators he is working with, he just has to improve on this aspect because I strongly believe I cannot be the only one annoyed when he does this.


The thing about that point though is it is very subjective. As much as I like his casting, Artosis fake laugh makes me cringe every single time. I appreciate that it would be hard to say something when nothing is happening, but it is just soo fake I sometimes mute it.

Not sure if anyone has tried it, but watching a muted cast is kinda nice. It means you have to be actively watching and analysing the game yourself.
and he whispered, never more
Six.Strings
Profile Joined July 2017
48 Posts
July 31 2017 08:37 GMT
#104
On July 31 2017 12:14 Maynarde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 10:55 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The casting of IEM Shanghai was very good.

Thanks mate!


Heard you for the first time during IEM, didn't know who you were, thought you were incredible, like an Aussie (I hope) Tasteless.
mLtySC
Profile Joined September 2016
68 Posts
July 31 2017 09:55 GMT
#105
Casters, all of you sometimes get carried away, and this is okay, just make sure we are in on the joke too. Not all of us have time to watch every game, so we just watch game vods. ♥ you all, but that's just my 2 cents.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
July 31 2017 13:12 GMT
#106
Can casters stop hyping up a player when he is down 100 supply for example and on the verge of losing? It gets annoying when questions like "can he hold" when he has no chance of a comeback whatsoever.

On July 24 2017 16:27 gab12 wrote:
Gauntlet duo sadly makes one of the worst sc2 casting imo. Just cant listen to this wierd stupid no funny jokes and then their laugh for 3 minutes :/

I think they do a great job. It's a nice, unique way of casting. Keep it up!
TequilaMockingbird
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany64 Posts
July 31 2017 14:44 GMT
#107
I used to hate ToD with a burning passion, I just could not help myself, I just felt his accent was way too strong and at sometimes made it for me impossible to understand what he was trying to say. I sometimes thought "his English is as bad as my French, why am I not casting games for OgamingTV ?!!" and stuff like that. It came to a point where I wouldnt watch matches, even if my fav players were playing, upon seeing that they were casted by ToD.

After not following the scene / tournaments casted by him I watched some games at the recent HSC and to my big surprised actually enjoyed his casting.
So probs to ToD for improving I guess. Keep up the good work.
Cinek357
Profile Joined October 2012
Poland119 Posts
July 31 2017 14:45 GMT
#108
Personally I think that SC2 casters are really good and they bring a lot to the games. Some of them I love, some of them I like, maybe one or two of them are okayish, but never thought about muting them and I appreciate amount of work they put into the scene.

On the contrary, couple months ago I started playing Hearthstone. Lately I decided to check some tournaments and /i must say that casters there are terrible. It was some Blizzard tournaments, so I guess they invited more popular casters, but they were really boring to me. There was no flow between them, it was more like putting 2 random people in 1 room and make them cast a game. When occasionally one of them was trying to make a joke about something, his co-partner didn't respond at all or just said something generic like "that would be nice" and ending the topic immediately. Also, being a noob like me who just recently started playing, I already predicted some in game situations better than those casters who are supposed to be way more knowledgable than me.

In Starcraft 2 I feel all the casters are good friends with one another. You can see during tournaments that whatever the combo is, they feel good with each other, they joke and laugh a lot, and there are no awkward, forced conversations like in Hearthstone. There is always natural flow between SC2 casters. Also, even though I play and watch Starcraft 2 for a way longer than Hearthstone, I can feel the casters have vast knowledge about the game and I can learn from them.

To sum up, I really enjoy our casters and I think they are big reason I stll watch some SC2 from time to time even though I am not that interested in game anymore.
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-31 15:31:10
July 31 2017 15:10 GMT
#109
I really enjoyed the casting at IEM Shanghai, oh and I enjoyed the little messages during the waiting screen between matches/games.

The casters were great, but I think some of the calls were off. I don't like it when a caster says 'X player is going for Y strategy' and they are wrong. It didn't happen often, but it kind of irks me. I don't remember a specific example, but I believe Wardii and Rotti did it once each.

Artosis calls out the strategy, but he is much more often right than wrong. And he says it to allow room for error.

Otherwise, great job to all the casters!
Chibuyo
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany14 Posts
July 31 2017 16:20 GMT
#110
The worst SC-caster is still better than any caster of any other game. Nothing comes close to Tastosis. These 2 keep SC alive.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-31 22:48:06
July 31 2017 22:47 GMT
#111
All our casters are great! Everyone brings something special. I am really happy that PiG made it to the high tear casters and is being invited to so many events. ToD and Rotti are the stellar stars. Tastosis and Wolf with Valdes are forever connected with the Korean competitions and I can't imagine anyone else there.

Well, and Rapid came in a situation, where our e-sport was "dying" and people were leaving it - and he was the fresh blood, who brought again some passion into SC2, how he was coming to all the events, even when he was not casting there. That was bringing back some passion to all the people, who were observing the dissolution of Korean teams, casters leaving to other esports ... it was kind of a sign that SC2 is not dead yet, when there is fresh blood, someone new interested in SC2 and passionate about the scene. Thanks for that Rapid!
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Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
August 01 2017 01:40 GMT
#112
On July 31 2017 17:37 Six.Strings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 12:14 Maynarde wrote:
On July 31 2017 10:55 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The casting of IEM Shanghai was very good.

Thanks mate!


Heard you for the first time during IEM, didn't know who you were, thought you were incredible, like an Aussie (I hope) Tasteless.

Thank you yeah I'm Australian
CommentatorAustralian SC2 Caster | Twitter: @MaynardeSC2 | Twitch: twitch.tv/maynarde
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16902 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 13:29:32
August 03 2017 13:26 GMT
#113
watching GSL vs. The World.

i think Tasteless and Artosis make more incorrect calls when they're separated.
kudos to Incontrol for having the balls to acknowledge some of the games were terribly 1-sided in replying to a stock/standard "what great games tonight" comment.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JWD[9]
Profile Blog Joined November 2015
364 Posts
August 03 2017 13:32 GMT
#114
Tasteless and Rotti are a great combo.
Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
August 03 2017 13:36 GMT
#115
On July 31 2017 15:11 ThunderJunk wrote:
Also, I think casters are too often calling games as won before the game is over. Just stop doing that. It's lazy casting.

I am sorry but that never happens. Even if a player is super dead they still try to create fake hype.
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
689 Posts
August 03 2017 13:48 GMT
#116
I also enjoyed Wardi in the last IEM tournament, nice addition to the team and it was nice hearing him together with Kaelaris

All in all I think we have a great team of casters in SC2, each one brings something a bit different - and there are some duos which work veeery good together. I really liked Apollo's casting, but I get he's busy with organizational matters now

Then of course I enjoyed a lot Day9's casting when he was more into the SC2 scene (like MLG in WoL, ...)
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16902 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 13:55:20
August 03 2017 13:53 GMT
#117
On August 03 2017 22:36 Aegwynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 15:11 ThunderJunk wrote:
Also, I think casters are too often calling games as won before the game is over. Just stop doing that. It's lazy casting.

I am sorry but that never happens. Even if a player is super dead they still try to create fake hype.

"fake hype" is a smear of what a caster must do in the case of a 1-sided game.
they can't say: "stop watching now, this game will end soon and there will be a 5 minute break. so go do something else now and come back in 10 minutes." although that comment might be 100% honest the people paying the caster might have something to say about it.

so they must do something to keep the viewer invested in watching. and that's not easy in any 1-sided competition in any game including SC2.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Myrddrael
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
August 03 2017 13:57 GMT
#118
Very good 4 man casting team for GSL vs the world. For me, Geoff casting with anyone is always a good time.
Six.Strings
Profile Joined July 2017
48 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-05 11:51:29
August 05 2017 11:49 GMT
#119
Incontrol's cynical / realistic casting in the inno vs. stats series is so honest and great. I hope he casts the next Inno match as well.

This entire caster-foursome has been the real highlight of the event.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 05 2017 12:17 GMT
#120
On August 03 2017 22:57 Myrddrael wrote:
Very good 4 man casting team for GSL vs the world. For me, Geoff casting with anyone is always a good time.


Yeah i've really liked all the casts. Artosis/Incontrol especially. And Rotti is good with anyone.
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