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feardragon
United States973 Posts
On August 16 2017 00:54 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: Idk, Feardragon and Wardi seem to be legit good guys. I remember matching vs Feardragon on ladder and he was a really nice chap even though he played protoss. I apologize for however many blink dt's I made against you. | ||
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t0ssboy
Bulgaria681 Posts
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ScrappyRabbit
200 Posts
He even made a comment in the early-game of one of the Inno-Gumiho matches about not trying to copy what Tasteosis does, which I felt like something that was holding him back a bit when he first got to KR. WP Rapid, congrats on getting to follow your passion for a living and keep up the good work. (I've always liked Valdes as a straight-up PBP guy who can mesh well with any caster and, I think, speaks better Korean than any other non-Korean caster.) | ||
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ScrappyRabbit
200 Posts
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
On August 17 2017 16:32 ScrappyRabbit wrote: Note for all casters though, and this might just be my Inno fanboy showing: the robot jokes are getting a bit stale, especially since he varies his builds and strategies more now than he ever has -- he just still has god macro and never makes facial expressions, is all. Again, probably just being a fanboy, but I'd like to hear more in-game analysis of what makes him great rather than just beating a meme into the ground. That's just filler content when nothing exciting is going on. Lulls happen, and the casters like to fill it with memes, cuz those are very easy to do. I like the totally off topic humour of Tastosis. They talk about other games they played as children and teens. I also love banter. At first, I thought ToD and Kelaris disliked each other. During their duo cast around 2013-2014, I felt tension between them. However, I don't feel any tension in their casts anymore. Their jokes are also funny. | ||
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ScrappyRabbit
200 Posts
On August 17 2017 16:43 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: That's just filler content when nothing exciting is going on. Lulls happen, and the casters like to fill it with memes, cuz those are very easy to do. I like the totally off topic humour of Tastosis. They talk about other games they played as children and teens. I also love banter. At first, I thought ToD and Kelaris disliked each other. During their duo cast around 2013-2014, I felt tension between them. However, I don't feel any tension in their casts anymore. Their jokes are also funny. I'm all for good filler content -- although I think Tasteosis are the only ones to have mastered when they're able to talk about whatever is on their mind without missing any important gameplay -- I was just reacting to this specific thing that all casters are doing during Inno games. P.S. Not to be too much of a Tasteosis fanboy (been watching GSL for so long now!) but I feel like early-game "banter" is generally better when the casters talk about the matchup, past matches between the players, etc. instead of trying to do a comedy routine. | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
On August 17 2017 17:44 ScrappyRabbit wrote: I'm all for good filler content -- although I think Tasteosis are the only ones to have mastered when they're able to talk about whatever is on their mind without missing any important gameplay -- I was just reacting to this specific thing that all casters are doing during Inno games. P.S. Not to be too much of a Tasteosis fanboy (been watching GSL for so long now!) but I feel like early-game "banter" is generally better when the casters talk about the matchup, past matches between the players, etc. instead of trying to do a comedy routine. I don't think a single TLer is not a Tastosis fanboy. I have never heard a single person say a bad thing about this casting duo. But these guys have been honing their craft to perfection. | ||
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207aicila
1237 Posts
On August 17 2017 22:52 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: I have never heard a single person say a bad thing about this casting duo. Did you watch the game at all during Heart of the Swarm? There were tonnes of people shitting on Tasteless, saying he doesn't know anything about the game anymore and is just phoning it in. Not to mention people REEEEEing all over Artosis for having the audacity to show interest in Hearthstone. | ||
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Ctone23
United States1841 Posts
On August 15 2017 23:32 JimSocks wrote: i don't care as long as somebody cast something, we're starting to get to that point where things aren't getting english casting again. copa america, gauntlet weeklys, even wcs regionals. Yeah i'm pretty disappointed that our weeklies haven't been casted lately... it's open to other casters but I need to do a better job advertising that. Hopefully Jordan's internet gets fixed soon or we'll have to find another solution. Bob is going to be able to cast a lot more often in the near future which is reallllly exciting. The days of no casts on our weeklies are numbered.. | ||
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naderni
Australia3 Posts
I am curious does casters have the right to do this? Is there rules about casters modding the chat? Is there no freedom of speech in chat? Please note I did not call names or said anything disrespectful, I simply said he is bad, which I think he is, and now I think he is not only bad but also petty. | ||
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Kerdinand
Germany113 Posts
On September 02 2017 23:37 naderni wrote: I was banned twice as a non-sub viewer on SSLSERIES and GSL because I said Rapid casting is bad since he is trying too hard. I was banned permanently, I assume by Rapid himself. I am curious does casters have the right to do this? Is there rules about casters modding the chat? Is there no freedom of speech in chat? Please note I did not call names or said anything disrespectful, I simply said he is bad, which I think he is, and now I think he is not only bad but also petty. Why do you just assume right from the getgo it was him? You are already judging him before thinking about it... And if you are permabanned from the chat, I guess you didnt just make light jokes. | ||
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naderni
Australia3 Posts
On September 02 2017 23:43 Kerdinand wrote: Why do you just assume right from the getgo it was him? You are already judging him before thinking about it... And if you are permabanned from the chat, I guess you didnt just make light jokes. Yeah sure you were right there in the chat you know exactly what happened.... Also that doesn't answer my question. There were only a handful of mods in those chats not sure if you know or not, currently there is only SSLSERIES and Rapid himself on. So let's say if its not himself is there any rules about perm ban people? I dont care at all about being able to talk or not but if casters do not wish to hear things about himself being bad and can simply ban people who says otherwise why even have a thread here? EDIT: Since you are guessing what I said and this thread is 'heavily moderated' I'll tell you exactly what I said: 1st time in SSLSERIES I said 'Rapid is soooo bad he tries too hard' I got instantly banned I didnt do anything else in that session, the next session in SSLSERIES I saw wolf on and I private messaged him and luckily he didnt mute his private message and he unbanned me, I asked him why I was banned he said he didnt know but he doesnt ban people and unbanned me. 2nd time I went on GSL and told chat the story, I said 'Rapid perm banned me for saying him being bad and wolf unbanned me I am grateful for wolf', and I got perm banned again. That was this week and I didnt do anything so I am still banned. If this thread is heavily moderated and watched carefully I would like to know what is the reason of me being banned in both chats, is there any clarification at all about people being perm banned? Can people not give their honest opinions in chat? | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
On September 02 2017 23:47 naderni wrote: Yeah sure you were right there in the chat you know exactly what happened.... Also that doesn't answer my question. There were only a handful of mods in those chats not sure if you know or not, currently there is only SSLSERIES and Rapid himself on. So let's say if its not himself is there any rules about perm ban people? I dont care at all about being able to talk or not but if casters do not wish to hear things about himself being bad and can simply ban people who says otherwise why even have a thread here? EDIT: Since you are guessing what I said and this thread is 'heavily moderated' I'll tell you exactly what I said: 1st time in SSLSERIES I said 'Rapid is soooo bad he tries too hard' I got instantly banned I didnt do anything else in that session, the next session in SSLSERIES I saw wolf on and I private messaged him and luckily he didnt mute his private message and he unbanned me, I asked him why I was banned he said he didnt know but he doesnt ban people and unbanned me. 2nd time I went on GSL and told chat the story, I said 'Rapid perm banned me for saying him being bad and wolf unbanned me I am grateful for wolf', and I got perm banned again. That was this week and I didnt do anything so I am still banned. If this thread is heavily moderated and watched carefully I would like to know what is the reason of me being banned in both chats, is there any clarification at all about people being perm banned? Can people not give their honest opinions in chat? I'm not sure why you're talking about this thread being "heavily moderated". This TL thread and the SSL/GSL twitch chat have nothing to do with each other. | ||
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naderni
Australia3 Posts
On September 03 2017 00:02 Seeker wrote: I'm not sure why you're talking about this thread being "heavily moderated". This TL thread and the SSL/GSL twitch chat have nothing to do with each other. Fair point, I saw this at the top 'All constructive criticism and feedback toward casters will go here. This thread will be moderated and watched carefully so be wary of what you post!', and I guess I just post this here since I think it is Rapid who banned me and this is my feedback toward casters | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
On September 03 2017 00:06 naderni wrote: Fair point, I saw this at the top 'All constructive criticism and feedback toward casters will go here. This thread will be moderated and watched carefully so be wary of what you post!', and I guess I just post this here since I think it is Rapid who banned me and this is my feedback toward casters Okay. But just to reiterate, TL moderation and SSL/GSL twitch chat moderation have nothing to do with each other. You can definitely talk about why you think you were banned from both chats but TL didn't have anything to do with it. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17682 Posts
On August 17 2017 22:52 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: I don't think a single TLer is not a Tastosis fanboy. I have never heard a single person say a bad thing about this casting duo. But these guys have been honing their craft to perfection. check my posting history. i've been critical of Tasteless and Artosis. Typically, its a mid-week GSL early in a season, and they come off as being kinda bored. For big events these guys always bring their "A Game" and do a great job. when i was critical i was not "moderated" or "warned" or "banned" or anything. a big problem i find is people get sloppy, imprecise, impolite, and personal in their critique. then they whine about getting "moderated". | ||
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Drfilip
Sweden592 Posts
Good things: •talking about statistics during down time. •analysing the playstyles of both players. •looking for the relevant parts of strategy and tactics (for example: upgrade timings, worker production, tech buildings etc). Bad things: •predicting things in a confident manner (add some uncertainty when predicting to not look bad the times your prediction didn't come true). •talking about the players' style in an overly stereotypical manner. Regarding overly stereotyping players: Blizzcon 2015 had sOs playing and Rotti casting. sOs did his standard 2gate opening, the opening he did 4 out of 5 times. Rotti said that he had never seen that strategy before, that sOs had tailored the build for his opponent on that map because sOs is a crazy and intelligent player. Group C in GSL season 3, Ro16, had 3 zergs. soO got painted as "the best ZvZ player". This was repeated several times as he lost in ZvZ over and over again. Stereotyping players has only a narrative function. When the stereotype fails, the narrative fails. If the narrative fails, the cast loses its credibility. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17682 Posts
Rifkin's over the top, rude, and vulgar "rebuttals" to polite criticism on reddit earlier this month weakened the BTTV brand. Flat out unacceptable behaviour. I think the guy spends too much time online... however casting 36 hours from Friday to Sunday on small events no one else would cover is a big reason that put BTTV on the map; hence, i don't know what the solution is. Maybe an "A" and "B" casting team so he can lower his online time? | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
On September 12 2017 16:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote: so the GSL enters the RO4 and Artosis stops having 3 minute laughing fits in the middle of games. In general, Tastosis quits fucking around like they do during midweek RO32 games. Good to see. Great job by Tastosis on the RO4 GSL Season 3 , 2017. Rifkin's over the top, rude, and vulgar "rebuttals" to polite criticism on reddit earlier this month weakened the BTTV brand. Um Rifkin has always been like that. I remember the earlier days of his BTTV (I think they used a different name) they organized an offline tournament which CombatEx participated in. There was a thread on TL where many people disapproved of CombatEx's participation due to him being a known stream sniper. Rifkin's response was essentially "Fuck you we can have anyone we want participating". Of course that wasn't verbatim, and I don't have the link to that thread. I still love BTTV, and they have done a lot for the scene, but Rifkin should really learn to be tactful sometimes. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17682 Posts
i think this month's Rifkin performance is unprecedented in its level of insult. However, i'm no hardcore follower of the guy.. maybe he has said stuff like this on reddit in reply to polite criticisms in the past. if he has.. that's very bad. On September 12 2017 16:39 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: I still love BTTV, and they have done a lot for the scene, but Rifkin should really learn to be tactful sometimes. i don't "love" BTTV.. but u make a good point here. | ||
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