EPTCaster Feedback Thread - Page 9
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16910 Posts
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Marfy
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VHbb
689 Posts
I like when there's some addition to the usual crew (kinda like Wardi at IEM)  (as for the rest of the casters, Incontrol and Maynard awesome as always) | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
I never knew, nor was I even remotely aware, that Rifkin is hated by so many other people, not on TL (or doesn't post here). I know that TL isn't the de facto SC2 community website, but I never realized how many people dislike him. I am not a fan, but I don't hate him. He really does tarnish the BTTV brand name. I also think it's very nice that Zombie is getting the attention she deserves. She was great at WCS Montreal. I can't wait to see what big tournament she'll be involved in next. Maybe Blizzcon? | ||
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maddogmcgee
Australia105 Posts
On September 13 2017 06:07 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: So I was curious about the flak Rifkin was getting over on Reddit, and decided to do some light reading. I never knew, nor was I even remotely aware, that Rifkin is hated by so many other people, not on TL (or doesn't post here). I know that TL isn't the de facto SC2 community website, but I never realized how many people dislike him. I am not a fan, but I don't hate him. He really does tarnish the BTTV brand name. I also think it's very nice that Zombie is getting the attention she deserves. She was great at WCS Montreal. I can't wait to see what big tournament she'll be involved in next. Maybe Blizzcon? Isn't Base Trade TV his company? | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On September 13 2017 00:15 VHbb wrote: I really enjoyed Rotterdam + ZombieGrub casting at WCS, nice job! I like when there's some addition to the usual crew (kinda like Wardi at IEM) (as for the rest of the casters, Incontrol and Maynard awesome as always) Agreed about liking the new casters. Blizzard has been doing a good job lately, they've brought in feardragon, Wardi, and ZG at the last couple events. Also Mal reappeared. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16910 Posts
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feardragon
United States973 Posts
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
I'm not saying he sounds monotone or doesn't express emotions, but I just don't feel excited when I hear his cast. Sometimes the job of a caster isn't just to give blow by blow description, but to make the audience feel excited when a great play occurs. They are an amplifier to the audience, taking them to another level of fervor. Baseball announcers are great at doing this. SC2 casters that do this well are (in no particular order): Tasteless Rotti ToD (although sometimes I can't understand him) ZG Kaelaris | ||
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207aicila
1237 Posts
On September 14 2017 06:54 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: About Wardi, I have nothing against his casting, and he is good, but I don't feel excitement in his voice. I'm not saying he sounds monotone or doesn't express emotions, but I just don't feel excited when I hear his cast. Sometimes the job of a caster isn't just to give blow by blow description, but to make the audience feel excited when a great play occurs. They are an amplifier to the audience, taking them to another level of fervor. Baseball announcers are great at doing this. SC2 casters that do this well are (in no particular order): Tasteless Rotti ToD (although sometimes I can't understand him) ZG Kaelaris Is your passion and understanding of the game actually that low that you literally need to be told when to be excited? My bad, I probably worded that a little more harshly than I should have but jesus fucking christ... | ||
Mizenhauer
United States1897 Posts
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dankobanana
Croatia238 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16005 Posts
On October 01 2017 21:09 dankobanana wrote: I usually love Tastossis, but these days they really OVERhype stuff I disagree | ||
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dankobanana
Croatia238 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16005 Posts
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IcemanAsi
Israel681 Posts
Minor build deviations, overlord scouting paths, gas pull outs, all the tiny details that are actually the difference between crucial variations of similar builds. I think they are casting from a video feed and don't have a dedicated observer pc which could be the difference. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On September 14 2017 07:56 207aicila wrote: Is your passion and understanding of the game actually that low that you literally need to be told when to be excited? My bad, I probably worded that a little more harshly than I should have but jesus fucking christ... when people talk about casters being exciting they're usually referring to charisma, which is not the same thing as "needing to be told when to be excited." in any case i don't think it's worth throwing heated words at people over how they prefer to have their games commentated. it's like arguing over the taste of apples. i understand his point about wardi. i actually really like wardi, but he has a pretty slow and sleepy pace. it seems like that's just his personality though, which is fine. i'd rather have a subdued caster who's good than an excitable and bad caster like rifkin. i mean, what is wardi supposed to do? yell louder, scream and shout? if you're a quiet person those things come off as awkward and forced anyway i get the idea behind this thread, but i think a lot of the criticisms are kind of silly because they boil down to the personality of the person casting. it's a diverse world and there are all kinds of personalities. some people think kaelaris is annoying, but i think he's hilarious and really fun. not much accounting for taste the other thing is that sometimes casters can be surprisingly better/worse based on who they're paired with. i find rapid annoying with brendan, but for some reason i like him better with tasteless, and he was pretty good with zombiegrub too. i've been guilty of judging casters too harshly in the past, and i think we can all benefit from remembering that they're human beings who are just speaking in the voices and personalities they have. rarely is a caster so bad that it's worth trashing them and telling them to get out of the scene. and often even if you don't like a caster it's pretty easy to let them grow on you over time. i used to really dislike tastosis because i thought they had an elitist attitude, but not anymore, because i realized it's only natural for them to be comfortable and confident after years of doing what they do | ||
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Kerdinand
Germany113 Posts
Maybe I just didnt notice it as much earlier, but now its getting to a point where I'm seriously looking out for alternative streams... | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
On October 02 2017 00:59 Kerdinand wrote: Speaking of Tastosis, does anyone else feel like Tasteless is calling games wayyyyyy to early lately? Every time one of the players is even just slightly winning, he calls the game finished and then continues to correct himself as many times as the lead changes, each time saying how stupid he was to call the game early and then doing it again. I can understand that you shouldnt lie to your audience and desperately try to keep tension in a decided game, but hes always doing it when there are still chances for the "losing" player. Maybe I just didnt notice it as much earlier, but now its getting to a point where I'm seriously looking out for alternative streams... Yes he does do this often, and I've gotten accustomed to it. I'm not particularly offended by it. I used to be though when I was watching him on GomTv. I like Zombie because she rarely calls a game too early. Thanks brckrd, for understanding my post. I thought I made myself clear, but some people might interpret my posts differently. | ||
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