TvZ: A Summary of What's (Still) Broken - Page 10

On December 05 2012 11:35 GTPGlitch wrote:


Yea man, zergs never whine...

On December 24 2012 09:04 barwick11 wrote:
Things like drop pods would help things like that, but that's getting way off topic.

On December 24 2012 08:38 Picklebread wrote:

Can you guys please stop doing the bad whining? Im terran your making us look so goddamn bad when you guys post posts like this. There was a good 2-3 weeks to a month where it was dominant. Ghost countered Tier 3 zerg completely theres literally nothing they could do and there was a good sample size. Everyone masters was doing it on the ladder to great success and won games lategame vs zerg that they shouldnt have because they could snipe all the broodlords dead and emp all the infestors and completely dismantle the zerg army and the zerg couldnt do anything about it. And for the love of god please guys stop saying 5 games it was 100's jesus christ. People like you posting this 5 games stuff just shows how biased you are. You have to be objective with balance otherwise its always just gonna be stupidly biased for a race.

On December 24 2012 09:10 Cyber_Cheese wrote:

All sides whine, it's just Terrans taking their turn.
OP should try playing as a Zerg, because he overlooks things like the options terran has to harass, and the strengths of terran. (e.g. wall off the run-bys)

On December 24 2012 09:14 barwick11 wrote:


The snipe nerf is a giant part of the reason things are broken right now.

What answer does bio Terran have vs Zerg T3? Specifically BL/Corruptor/Ling? Exactly nothing.

10 ghosts (at the time) could do some serious damage... but so can 10 infestors (I mean, full energy infestors? You know how many IT's that is even if fungal wasn't used?

And seriously, since Terran had a counter that everyone started using, Zerg couldn't respond by making wave after wave after wave of inexpensive nearly-un-snipeable units when they saw ghosts being made? That's like us complaining that BL's can't be killed because we didn't scout the corruptors, the greater spire, or the batch of behemoths flying across the map looking like a flock of flying whales, before we started to make vikings out of starports.

On December 24 2012 09:08 Forikorder wrote:
if the zerg opens hatch first, then pool and makes 6 lings and those lings do anything then your very very bad

On December 24 2012 09:18 barwick11 wrote:


Did you not read my post? And I quote:

Imagine Terran opens expo first, 1 rax, into 3rd CC in place. Zerg simply makes those first 6 lings.

First off, nobody does this because it's going to get crushed every single game by any Zerg with two nickels to rub together upstairs. Second off, my entire point was, this is equivalent to what Zerg does in a LOT of games and is 98% *completely* safe doing it.

On December 24 2012 09:21 Forikorder wrote:

if terran opens 3 base and the zerg goes 2 base and makes 6 lings and does damage the terran is very very bad

On December 24 2012 09:26 Fyy wrote:

to get the 3rd base as fast as zerg requires the terran to skip marines.. zerg will do damage

On December 24 2012 08:38 Picklebread wrote:

Can you guys please stop doing the bad whining? Im terran your making us look so goddamn bad when you guys post posts like this. There was a good 2-3 weeks to a month where it was dominant. Ghost countered Tier 3 zerg completely theres literally nothing they could do and there was a good sample size. Everyone masters was doing it on the ladder to great success and won games lategame vs zerg that they shouldnt have because they could snipe all the broodlords dead and emp all the infestors and completely dismantle the zerg army and the zerg couldnt do anything about it. And for the love of god please guys stop saying 5 games it was 100's jesus christ. People like you posting this 5 games stuff just shows how biased you are. You have to be objective with balance otherwise its always just gonna be stupidly biased for a race.

On December 24 2012 09:16 cArn- wrote:
Never had any problems with infestors or the matchup in general until queens got a buff that doesn't make any sense. Being able to play super greedy no matter what and be completely safe is really dumb and makes for a stupid matchup where Zerg have multiple options, while Terran only option is to play greedy and hope zerg just doesn't decide to do some kind of all-in (or pressure actually, zerg's never really all-in)

It was an awesome matchup to play and watch until that ridiculous change got introduced to the game and ruined it all..

On December 24 2012 09:36 slytown wrote:


^^^ bump

Something needs to happen to queens. They can keep their creep spread if blizzard makes them cost larvae.

Honestly if we got back to the pre-queen, pre-ghost nerf I think zergs wouldn't have so much trouble considering they know how versatile queens and infestors are at this point.

On December 24 2012 09:35 keglu wrote:


It seems like you lived in some alternate reality. There was lietrally 5 games with amss ghost on pro level mos of them with MVP defeating inferior players but somehow every master Terran player was owning Zerg at the same time.

If there was more games just point them out i''ll wait.
Also your last sentence is hilarious.

On December 24 2012 09:16 Forikorder wrote:

ya ok you try to beat a terran in late game without using T3 see how well that goes

Ghosts are as good agaisnt our T1 and T2 as they are against our T3 they dont caare if there bloqing up ultras roachs or bane

On December 24 2012 09:41 Cutlery wrote:


If queens cost larvae, you will see a lot more queens more quickly, will you not? And forget about banshee, cause even if the zerg has no queens, he will just pop up to 8 larvae into queens and voilla.. Really think you're shooting yourself in the foot here.