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Mazaire
Australia217 Posts
On February 05 2012 07:52 atwar wrote: who the fuk cares about dota 2 ? everything is copied from HoN. The trolls arrived early!! Oh god i would love the UI to be changed. it can go from a great game to an extraordinary game. and its sad that its simply the UI that kills the custom map scene  | ||
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gurrpp
United States437 Posts
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
On February 05 2012 07:46 DCRed wrote: Dota(1&2) mini-map, staying the same since '03. No but really, Valve hasn't touched the gameplay itself that much, which is more than sad really. How is it sad that they're preserving an already proven format? I think it's absolutely fantastic that a company has the balls to do that, instead of redesign their product just for the sake of making it "different" and potentially worse than its former game (SC2). | ||
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Saishuuheiki
United States188 Posts
The in-game UI for SC2 isn't bad honestly. For the amount of things accessible, it's ok. And to be honest, there isn't a need or desire to be able to exit out of the game screen, goto server/chat, then go back to the game. It is however really cool that you can do that. For Battlenet 2.0 however, I do agree the UI is kinda awful. Dota2 is definately better there. If we're talking about UI however, it's probably worth mentioning the UI for the shop in Dota 2 isn't very good. While it's powerful, and usable once you get used to it, it's not intuitive. Also it's rather poor for people new to DOTA even if they played other MOBAs. | ||
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SySLeif
United States123 Posts
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
On February 05 2012 10:57 SySLeif wrote: Dota 2... sounds like everything Heroes of Newerth has... weird. HoN does have a really incredible system as well. All of the UI and features outside the game are so useful. It's pretty sad that it isn't more popular. | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
On February 05 2012 07:52 atwar wrote: who the fuk cares about dota 2 ? everything is copied from HoN. On the belief of being a terrible joke - I joyfully laughed. | ||
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ddrddrddrddr
1344 Posts
On February 05 2012 11:00 Angra wrote: HoN does have a really incredible system as well. All of the UI and features outside the game are so useful. It's pretty sad that it isn't more popular. HoN did a great job to be sure, but hard core dota fans can go right to dota 2 and LoL has the more casual and friendlier gaming community. Over all both end of the spectrum has a home and HoN can't find a good niche. It's the overlooked middle child of moba. | ||
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MichaelDonovan
United States1453 Posts
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Candadar
2049 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:27 MichaelDonovan wrote: I don't think you can compare the two. It's like saying Halo's UI is better than Worm's Armageddon's UI. It's just not the same thing. ...Huh? No, they are comparable. SC2 has a shit UI, this isn't up for debate -- it's common knowledge. Dota 2 has a fantastic UI that really connects its players. As said in the SC2 UI thread in the SC2 forum, the game feels so lonely because of how disconnected it is. People connect to each other on forums like these and elsewhere, not so much ingame. Dota 2 makes sure everyone is always connected, able to hang out in games and watch pros play and shit. That's a distinct advantage Dota 2 has right now. Hopefully Blizzard picks up on this and improves. This thread is by no means saying "SC2 IS DEAD, DOTA 2 KILLED IT!!!!", it's saying Dota 2 is bringing a fantastic UI to the table and an actual standard that SC2's will not live up to, and people WILL notice. | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
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Doomblaze
United States1292 Posts
On February 05 2012 10:54 Saishuuheiki wrote: If you compare the UIs, it's not completely 1-sided. The in-game UI for SC2 isn't bad honestly. For the amount of things accessible, it's ok. And to be honest, there isn't a need or desire to be able to exit out of the game screen, goto server/chat, then go back to the game. It is however really cool that you can do that. For Battlenet 2.0 however, I do agree the UI is kinda awful. Dota2 is definately better there. If we're talking about UI however, it's probably worth mentioning the UI for the shop in Dota 2 isn't very good. While it's powerful, and usable once you get used to it, it's not intuitive. Also it's rather poor for people new to DOTA even if they played other MOBAs. Is the shop UI really poor? I've played dota since 03 so i don't notice as much, but I think its good. The items are all listed where they should be, there are items that will get you through a game suggested on the sidebar, and you can customize them once you find a build that can work for you. Also, you can search for any item, which is useful when you don't want to spend the time flipping through pages, or you can just hit q/w/e/r and a number to buy what you want. Theres a lot of customization. | ||
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atwar
57 Posts
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Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
On February 05 2012 07:52 atwar wrote: who the fuk cares about dota 2 ? everything is copied from HoN. User was warned for this post I just have to ask, not having played dota 2, only having watched. Is his statement true? I mean it's not bad if it is. There are worse things than copying from a well made game. EDIT: There are also more sensible things than calling everyone on the forum bitches, atwar. After all, you're expressing an opinion, inevitably, and you could be wrong. | ||
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Ryhn
United States509 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:40 atwar wrote: everything is copied from HoN , lol at the kidz that doesnt accept this , if u want to discuss something discuss about HoN we have been HoN bitches for a long time. You do realize that HoN is copying DotA, not the other way around, right? | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:16 ddrddrddrddr wrote: HoN did a great job to be sure, but hard core dota fans can go right to dota 2 and LoL has the more casual and friendlier gaming community. Over all both end of the spectrum has a home and HoN can't find a good niche. It's the overlooked middle child of moba. You should seriously look into the LoL community comrade. 'Cuz I assure you that it isn't a great place to be.  | ||
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Doomblaze
United States1292 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:43 Chunhyang wrote: I just have to ask, not having played dota 2, only having watched. Is his statement true? I mean it's not bad if it is. There are worse things than copying from a well made game. HoN was a direct port of DotA, I don't play and I can tell who every hero is by their starting stats, except for the few they added in afterwards. I don't play it because the community is worse than DotAs and the balance is generally poor, but a lot of people enjoy it, and I never gave it a fair chance. | ||
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Nagano
United States1157 Posts
On February 05 2012 08:10 Dandel Ion wrote: I don't like how you treat DotA2 as the second coming of christ LOL, best laugh I had today On topic, I feel like the best features that could be implemented in battle.net could also be the easiest logistically. Save all replays and make them searchable, sortable. In client browsing of TL. Just those two things alone would change the landscape of SC2 forever... | ||
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Tsuki.eu
Portugal1049 Posts
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ddrddrddrddr
1344 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:43 Chunhyang wrote: I just have to ask, not having played dota 2, only having watched. Is his statement true? I mean it's not bad if it is. There are worse things than copying from a well made game. HoN started as an exact clone of dota, with permission. They imported hero from dota regularly and more recently came up with lots of unique heros of their own. Dota2 is made by the person who wrote most of dota 1 as it is now. Dota2 is a even strict clone of dota 1, with nothing that I know of taken from HoN that wasn't already in Dota 1. | ||
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