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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
On February 05 2012 08:07 Bswhunter wrote: Shame the point about education is moot because of the community of dota Can someone elaborate on that? Not really familiar with the community of fota. | ||
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PineapplePizza
United States749 Posts
In Starcraft 2, I don't have time to pay attention to my chatboxes or adjust settings after 2 minutes into the game. There is much more to the game than controlling one unit. This is comparing almonds and oranges | ||
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Keitzer
United States2509 Posts
And no, SC2 will not "bend over" for DOTA2, seeing as there's features in DOTA2's UI that Blizzard (for some nonsensical reason) doesn't want. | ||
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On February 05 2012 08:12 Al Bundy wrote: Can someone elaborate on that? Not really familiar with the community of fota. As someone who's played DotA for a majority of his gaming career (lol career), I can only share my experiences. Before other MOBA games came out the community was known for being asshats to newer players. Its a team game after all, and so having an inexperienced player in your team usually meant that you were at a disadvantage. Since there also was no (proper) match making system, this issue eventually lead to the community getting coined for their elitist attitude. Being the shell of what it was due to other games such as LoL and HoN taking chunks of their consumer base, I find that the DotA community has (for the most part) matured greatly from the past few years. I think coupled with the new UI mentioned in the OP plus the experience of the more veteran community members, DotA 2 should break this image about their comunity in time. | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
On February 05 2012 08:32 Jojo131 wrote: As someone who's played DotA for a majority of his gaming career (lol career), I can only share my experiences. Before other MOBA games came out the community was known for being asshats to newer players. Its a team game after all, and so having an inexperienced player in your team usually meant that you were at a disadvantage. Since there also was no (proper) match making system, this issue eventually lead to the community getting coined for their elitist attitude. Being the shell of what it was due to other games such as LoL and HoN taking chunks of their consumer base, I find that the DotA community has (for the most part) matured greatly from the past few years. I think coupled with the new UI mentioned in the OP plus the experience of the more veteran community members, DotA 2 should break this image about their comunity in time Ok that's good to hear, thanks for replying  | ||
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
On February 05 2012 07:52 atwar wrote: who the fuk cares about dota 2 ? everything is copied from HoN. Lol I do this sometimes when I'm watching dota games to troll people (you can chat with all the viewers while watching which can be pretty cool, saying things "hey guys question im new to dota why did icefrog copy LoL's champions?". It used to get more responses now everybody seems to recognize it right away as troll. Back to the main topic though, yes fully agree 100%. My god the dota UI is incredible. The disconnect feature is genius, if you disconnect from the game you have 5 minutes to return before you are fully disconnected. During these 5 minutes you can even turn off your computer or disconnect from the internet, when you get back within 5 minutes you can still get back into your game. For example, I was playing then all of a sudden my computer shut off completely. I booted it up again, and started dota 2 right away, and got connected to original game. Now that's pretty cool...especially for those people who had internet problems. | ||
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DeltruS
Canada2214 Posts
On February 05 2012 08:12 Al Bundy wrote: Can someone elaborate on that? Not really familiar with the community of fota. The dota community, unlike SC2, is not centered around learning and good manners. If your team is losing, for 95% of the players, it is because your teammates are dying noob dipshits. Dota players get very inflamed by pretty much anything. While in SC2 it is easier to recognize you suck, and how to get better, many players (both in SC2 and Dota) think that they deserve to win. | ||
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
On February 05 2012 08:32 Jojo131 wrote: I find that the DotA community has (for the most part) matured greatly from the past few years. Really? Jeez I'm happy I wasn't playing years ago, because as much as dota is an amazing game, the community is probably the worst gaming community I've come across, and I've been involved in at least 7-8 competitive games. The amount of harassment and trolling in that game is at a completely different level than any other game. In my opinion it's the only downside to dota, hopefully it'll change with release. | ||
ArvickHero
10387 Posts
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Al Bundy
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On February 05 2012 08:42 Zapdos_Smithh wrote: Really? Jeez I'm happy I wasn't playing years ago, because as much as dota is an amazing game, the community is probably the worst gaming community I've come across, and I've been involved in at least 7-8 competitive games. The amount of harassment and trolling in that game is at a completely different level than any other game. In my opinion it's the only downside to dota, hopefully it'll change with release. I actually didn't consider trolling when I made that post, just the elitist part, but you're probably right in that regard. I dont know about worst community, but if it's anything, I'm currently playing league of legends since I dont have a beta key and the community there feels just as bad. | ||
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
On February 05 2012 07:52 atwar wrote: who the fuk cares about dota 2 ? everything is copied from HoN. LOL | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On February 05 2012 08:42 Zapdos_Smithh wrote: Really? Jeez I'm happy I wasn't playing years ago, because as much as dota is an amazing game, the community is probably the worst gaming community I've come across, and I've been involved in at least 7-8 competitive games. The amount of harassment and trolling in that game is at a completely different level than any other game. In my opinion it's the only downside to dota, hopefully it'll change with release. Yeah I think the only communities that can be compared with the Dota community are the HoN community, the LoL community, the WoW community, the D2jsp community, and the Bnet forums. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On February 05 2012 08:12 Al Bundy wrote: Can someone elaborate on that? Not really familiar with the community of fota. Its a teamgame which requires 5 people , to win, each of these must play and work TOGETHER. lets leave it at that And Yes, the Dota 2 UI is miles better then SC2, its simplicity makes it excellent, and more features will be added such as the aforementioned coaching feature and the ability to pull save files from any point in the game(this is still being worked on) so that when someone loses to due lag, disconnect or anything, the game can be played from that part forward Dota 2 has MUCH better UI and features outside of the game then SC2. Well actually I don't know if Dota 2 has facebook integration. | ||
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SomniGiggles
United Kingdom214 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On February 05 2012 08:44 ArvickHero wrote: some images to compare would be nice 2 Basic images from the interface. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Qiej9.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WVdRK.png) It allows for quickly tabbing, you can easily see friends to the right(steam friends) Each tab will quickly bring you to the features. Top live matches, more then often from pros can be accessed easily in the system of most popular matches, you can then watch them play. its overlay is clear | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
On February 05 2012 07:28 Sickkiee wrote: Well Dota 2 is a newer game than SC2. Then again, I think we're all still waiting for the new Battle.net (I think LOL). Then again all I want are proper SEA servers for Australians. They already had those ideas long ago... but they also decided to actually implement them... some things could still improve on dota 2's UI ( ingame one ) | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
Dota2's UI may be better but it's just Dota with better graphics, and that game just isn't my thing. The UI won't change that. However, I do hope that it causes the industry standards for this kind of thing to improve. edit- also for that lower third, the thing you have to consider is that (I'm a Dota noob, so this may be false but is my perception) you don't really need all that space under there. In SC2 you can't have that chat and shit in game because pretty much every element on screen is used. I guess you could have an option to toggle between the unit select and shit in the corner and chat for people who know all the hotkeys, but most of that space is needed. | ||
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
Dota 2 is shaping up to be the sequel that SC2 should have been. None of this Blizzard bullshit of balancing for bronze league and making huge gameplay changes which don't actual enhance the game. | ||
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Rabbitmaster
1357 Posts
On February 05 2012 07:52 atwar wrote: who the fuk cares about dota 2 ? everything is copied from HoN. Not sure if troll or serious... Anyway, the dota 2 UI is amazing. Ive been playing it alot the last few days and i love so much about it. The steam chat stuff you mentioned is great. Its generally super easy to navigate. And pretty much everything ingame is customizable. | ||
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