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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 06 2012 09:01 GMT
#161
http://blog.dota2.com/2010/11/dota-2-qa/

Hmm... I didn't read anything about facebook integration so I guess bnet still has that over dota2's vastly superior UI and feature set...
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
February 06 2012 09:10 GMT
#162
i do not want to be spammed while playing.
i do not need the game to offer me streams / observerspots / devblogs, i can find those on my own and better.
(why would the common, even casual gamer be unable to use a browser?)

the game needs to provide a good way to play it, thus there is need for:

clansupport / yet another chatoverhaul
a better custommapsystem / would like more custommaps in general

dota is dota, rts is rts, different games, different stories, copying these features will actually do nothing for me...
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
February 06 2012 09:11 GMT
#163
A game I have almost 0 interest in has better UI than sc2?! OH NOES!

Seriously though, why should I care? not the first game to have a UI that's not terrible like SC2's UI is.

meh
Do you really want chat rooms?
cerb
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany215 Posts
February 06 2012 09:19 GMT
#164
On February 06 2012 18:01 Sinensis wrote:
http://blog.dota2.com/2010/11/dota-2-qa/

Hmm... I didn't read anything about facebook integration so I guess bnet still has that over dota2's vastly superior UI and feature set...

Well, you can link your Steam Account to Facebook, so that Friends on Facebook can add you via Steam. So overall, I guess it is quite the same.
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
February 06 2012 09:20 GMT
#165
On February 05 2012 07:28 Sickkiee wrote:
Well Dota 2 is a newer game than SC2. Then again, I think we're all still waiting for the new Battle.net (I think LOL).

Then again all I want are proper SEA servers for Australians.

your first point doesn't matter lol, battle net 2.0 is absolutely featureless and atrociously designed.
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 09:29:05
February 06 2012 09:28 GMT
#166
On February 06 2012 18:10 Naphal wrote:
i do not want to be spammed while playing.
i do not need the game to offer me streams / observerspots / devblogs, i can find those on my own and better.
(why would the common, even casual gamer be unable to use a browser?)

the game needs to provide a good way to play it, thus there is need for:

clansupport / yet another chatoverhaul
a better custommapsystem / would like more custommaps in general

dota is dota, rts is rts, different games, different stories, copying these features will actually do nothing for me...

What about player stats, reconnect support, jump-in spectator functionality, clan system?
yurta
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada91 Posts
February 06 2012 09:29 GMT
#167
On February 05 2012 07:52 atwar wrote:
who the fuk cares about dota 2 ? everything is copied from HoN.

User was warned for this post

This is what happens when you are the last one in line for the boat, and end up missing it because you stood in the wrong line.

10/10 will read again if I ever need to be cheered up
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 09:33:03
February 06 2012 09:32 GMT
#168
On February 06 2012 18:29 yurta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 07:52 atwar wrote:
who the fuk cares about dota 2 ? everything is copied from HoN.

User was warned for this post

This is what happens when you are the last one in line for the boat, and end up missing it because you stood in the wrong line.

10/10 will read again if I ever need to be cheered up


You should bear in mind that this might have been intentional, or in other words trolling.
CutieBK
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Sweden227 Posts
February 06 2012 09:32 GMT
#169
Valve are the real mac daddy's of gaming, so ofcourse there'll be features in the game that will make most games out there quake in their pantalons. It seems really nice that they'll push the UI forwards, there's just one thing that "bothers" me with your post... The chat thingy.

I'm going to use an Einstein quote which I learned from Civ 5 and completely warp it's meaning in a most cunning way:

"'If a man is chatting up a sassy lad in SC2 while playing ladder, he is simply not giving dat micro/macro the attention it deserves.'
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 09:38:17
February 06 2012 09:36 GMT
#170
On February 06 2012 18:32 CutieBK wrote:
Valve are the real mac daddy's of gaming, so ofcourse there'll be features in the game that will make most games out there quake in their pantalons. It seems really nice that they'll push the UI forwards, there's just one thing that "bothers" me with your post... The chat thingy.

I'm going to use an Einstein quote which I learned from Civ 5 and completely warp it's meaning in a most cunning way:

"'If a man is chatting up a sassy lad in SC2 while playing ladder, he is simply not giving dat micro/macro the attention it deserves.'


That quote was so bad it made me nauseous.

A man "chatting up" another man should focus more on his game and less on trying to pick up members of the same sex? What even happened there?

You even called him a sassy lad ew
sebsejr
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
213 Posts
February 06 2012 09:38 GMT
#171
I think some of the most needed features for sc2 in a new battle.net. I think blizzard could do some very good things with it, and the community has already given them lots of ideas to work with.

Do it Blizzard, give us battle.net awesomeness! <3
CutieBK
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Sweden227 Posts
February 06 2012 09:39 GMT
#172
On February 06 2012 18:36 Sinensis wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2012 18:32 CutieBK wrote:
Valve are the real mac daddy's of gaming, so ofcourse there'll be features in the game that will make most games out there quake in their pantalons. It seems really nice that they'll push the UI forwards, there's just one thing that "bothers" me with your post... The chat thingy.

I'm going to use an Einstein quote which I learned from Civ 5 and completely warp it's meaning in a most cunning way:

"'If a man is chatting up a sassy lad in SC2 while playing ladder, he is simply not giving dat micro/macro the attention it deserves.'


That quote was so bad it made me nauseous.

A man "chatting up" another man should focus more on his game and less on trying to pick up members of the same sex? What even happened there?

You even called him a sassy lad ew



No, that's not what I meant at all XD

It was about chatting while playing! If you chat instead of micro/macro you are not paying enough attention... everything else was just filler. And since when is sassy lad a bad thing to say? I'd kill to be sassy!
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
February 06 2012 09:58 GMT
#173
I really dislike the way people are using the term UI as some generic term that covers everything and anything to do with battlenet and then applying it to SC2 the game.

The UI of the game SC2 is how you interact with the game. It's the SCV build menu, it's how you move a unit by right-clicking, it's the hotkeys you press to hatching 5 mutalisks.

The UI of Battlenet is what you use when you search for a game, host a custom game, enter the single player. There is an intentionally small crossover of these, as they are very separate things.

I don't know who plays SC2 and while in the middle of a game wishes they could have a chat window fill up their screen. That's not what I'm looking for in SC2, so don't assume what you want is what everyone wants.

There are some definite improvements that could be made to the battlenet experience, and I think it's all part of Blizzards plan to roll it into the expansions. They're not stupid, and have a good idea of what works and what doesn't. Give them some credit. They are in this to make money (and why shouldn't they be?) and want all of us to happily buy their expansions, which is why there will be additional "features" coming as part of that.

"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Petninja
Profile Joined June 2011
United States159 Posts
February 06 2012 10:00 GMT
#174
On February 06 2012 18:39 CutieBK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 18:36 Sinensis wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2012 18:32 CutieBK wrote:
Valve are the real mac daddy's of gaming, so ofcourse there'll be features in the game that will make most games out there quake in their pantalons. It seems really nice that they'll push the UI forwards, there's just one thing that "bothers" me with your post... The chat thingy.

I'm going to use an Einstein quote which I learned from Civ 5 and completely warp it's meaning in a most cunning way:

"'If a man is chatting up a sassy lad in SC2 while playing ladder, he is simply not giving dat micro/macro the attention it deserves.'


That quote was so bad it made me nauseous.

A man "chatting up" another man should focus more on his game and less on trying to pick up members of the same sex? What even happened there?

You even called him a sassy lad ew



No, that's not what I meant at all XD

It was about chatting while playing! If you chat instead of micro/macro you are not paying enough attention... everything else was just filler. And since when is sassy lad a bad thing to say? I'd kill to be sassy!


I think you mean "SaSe", not sassy. It's understandable, they sound very similar.
Berailfor
Profile Joined January 2012
441 Posts
February 06 2012 10:09 GMT
#175
I'm just curious as to why most of these things matter. When are you going to want a SEPARATE screen for messaging your friends. You'd never be able to talk to them like that anyway in game as past 5 minutes in you'd need that APM. And for experience. I speak for myself but I think a lot of other people think this way too. I like the fact that you can't learn the game via blizzard. They aren't your babies if your really dedicated to learning the game then research it like we all did. That gets TL more people too as always the best suggestion to a newer player looking to improve, "go to teamliquid.net!!"
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
February 06 2012 10:13 GMT
#176
blizzard:

1.) make proper custom game system
2.) Give us LAN
3.) Give us chat/channels

| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
February 06 2012 10:30 GMT
#177
On February 06 2012 18:58 Pure-SC2 wrote:
I really dislike the way people are using the term UI as some generic term that covers everything and anything to do with battlenet and then applying it to SC2 the game.

The UI of the game SC2 is how you interact with the game. It's the SCV build menu, it's how you move a unit by right-clicking, it's the hotkeys you press to hatching 5 mutalisks.

The UI of Battlenet is what you use when you search for a game, host a custom game, enter the single player. There is an intentionally small crossover of these, as they are very separate things.

I don't know who plays SC2 and while in the middle of a game wishes they could have a chat window fill up their screen. That's not what I'm looking for in SC2, so don't assume what you want is what everyone wants.

There are some definite improvements that could be made to the battlenet experience, and I think it's all part of Blizzards plan to roll it into the expansions. They're not stupid, and have a good idea of what works and what doesn't. Give them some credit. They are in this to make money (and why shouldn't they be?) and want all of us to happily buy their expansions, which is why there will be additional "features" coming as part of that.


I will not buy their expansions because there are no features.

It's a joke.

Look at DotA 2, their feature set is new, useful, and awesome. Now look at B.net 2.0, it's trash.

http://i.imgur.com/jEzkT.png

Talic_Zealot
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
688 Posts
February 06 2012 10:52 GMT
#178
Your point about accessibility doesn't make any sense. There is an option to hide the menu, which I gladly remove. I most certainly do not want a constant chat spam when I am playing.
Yes, SC2 could probably use a bit more in-game educating system for the lowest leagues. Not for anyone else though, streams would benefit in a different way.
Also when I hear UI, I think about my tools while playing. It seems you mean Battle.net 2.0 in general, so I kinda dislike the title of the thread.
There are three types of people in the universe: those who can count, and those who cant.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
February 06 2012 10:53 GMT
#179
Comparing MOBA game with RTS is pretty wrong ,imo.
On accessibility... There is no SC2 player that will ever want to chat with someone while he is playing. It just can't happen. In dota you have down time when you die or in the picking phase so you can chat, but in RTS there is no such thing.
I don't even know how to comment the education part. Of course you can't learn SC2 "solely on your own merits". Even if you have access to every single replay in the b.net you still can't learn the game, because you don't know what to look for. So you need other source anyway.

But seriously is that week dedicated to the "terrible UI of SC2" ? As it was said before the UI of the game is AWESOME, period. Personally I don't think that b.net is THAT bad either :
Chat windows/Channels - I don't care really, but it's important for some people to chat in game... for some reason... so it will be good.
Custom games - That is needed.
Replays with friends - that is needed too and it will be in HotS.
LAN mode for offline tournaments only will be good too.
Those are the things that b.net lacks atm, but meh... I can still enjoy the game even without them.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10823 Posts
February 06 2012 11:13 GMT
#180
Ahm...

Why are there people in here that say you shall not comapre the UI's of Dota 2 and the Bnet 2.0?

Dota 2's UI would work for SC2 like a charm and grant WAY more features.
Why do you want less features? Is there any reason to it except not wanting to compare your holy RTS-Grail to a Moba? .
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