EPTForeigners' Seeds in the GSL - Page 5
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pezit
Sweden302 Posts
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edzet
24 Posts
n ye givin free code s is too generous imo. | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
On February 01 2012 00:53 eYeball wrote: Code S seeds is too much, maybe Code A seeds will do. Would be curious to find out the percentage of people that has passed from their invite, because IdrA, HuK and Sen they were all given Code S but they dropped down to Code A? Right? wrong | ||
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obesemk
Norway267 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On February 01 2012 02:17 obesemk wrote: I personally only watch GSL when foreigners are playing. This is a mindset I don't get - SCII is played at the highest level by far in the GSL. If you love competitive SCII, why not watch the best players? | ||
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Starp
Canada199 Posts
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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1sz2sz3sz
Andorra173 Posts
On February 01 2012 02:20 Xxio wrote: Courage for SC2, imo. Code A qualifiers. | ||
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On February 01 2012 01:59 TheSubtleArt wrote: Why would you even go into a thread about foreigner GSL seeds the day 3 foreigners played Code A if you don't want the results spoiled ;p. There is an absolutely insane obsession about spoilers in the starcraft comunity. If you don't wanna know who won the superbowl don't load up espn.com. If you don't wanna know who won a SC tournament, then don't log onto TL.net! Stop complaining about people talking about starcraft on a website design to let people talk about starcraft... | ||
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Lord_J
Kenya1085 Posts
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CrazyBirdman
Germany3509 Posts
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
Yeah, foreigners should have to prove themselves from the ground up. | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
Courage was a cutthroat tornament to decide whether a player even had what it took to be a progamer, if a player won courage they would most likely be picked up by a progaming team (since they get a progamer license which doesn't exist in sc2 yet), while all the other kids would keep practicing online. I'd say code A qualifiers are more similar to MST qualifiers. | ||
Chill
Calgary26003 Posts
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Xalorian
Canada433 Posts
On February 01 2012 01:13 jj33 wrote: Uh no. If you have the skills, you'll make it to code A. no excuses. Uh, no. If you are a foreigner, at the moment, there is not even an incentive to go in Korea, except wanting to improve. Money wise, it's better here. It's true that foreigners are doing poor this season, so what? HuK and Jinro both had a great run in CODE S before. And IdrA beat top Koreans all the time. More and more players are leaving korean teams to get into an international one. Actually, if nothing is changing (it could all change with Kespa and ESL switching to SC2) the korean scene will fade out or stagne and the NA/EU will take the lead. MLG and IPL are becoming bigger and bigger quickly and GSL is surely not. Actually, they even cuted the price pool since there is now 6 tournaments a year instead of 12, so if we are looking at price pool it's actually shrinking. Viewerwise I can't tell... but I would guess that MLG probably have more viewers than the GSL... and people in korea can just easily watch it for free if i'm not mistaken, since they are on the same time line, little need for vods. Having the skills to be in Code A don't mean that you really have a reason to. Why would you stay in Korea, pay for a flight, pay for hotel/accomodations to maybe get a code A spots (Maybe is the key word) when you can have a way more profitable run in NA/EU, staying at home and getting invited to all sort of event around the world. So, is the GSL and Korea the best place to improve with the biggest tournament? Yes. But if they want to keep this title, they need foreigners in their events. Is it unfair for the 2 cobe B koreans that are not in because of it? Maybe. Is it better to trade the two worst koreans that would be in code A for 2 foreigners, money/viewer/scene wise? I'm pretty sure that it is. And it have a bigger impact that people thinks. I watch GSL, foreigners or not. But on the seven friends of mine that are following the scene, five of them only buy tickets when there is a foreigner to follow. I'm pretty sure that it's the case for A LOT of viewers, consciusly or not, they are way more interested when they can follow a foreigner. | ||
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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On February 01 2012 00:57 Xalorian wrote: Some foreigners are great and deserve code A title. Idra, Naniwa, HuK, all beated quite a large amount of koreans, code S koreans at that... But, even if they are good enough to participate in the coda A qualification and maybe win, do you really think that they would risk everything and they would go to Korea to MAYBE get a code A spot, IF they are lucky. (It's not all about skills, there is a fair bit of luck in the Code A qualifier.) No. They would stay here, in NA/EU. The scene is bigger anyway and they can actually win more money. No seeds pretty much means no foreigners in Code A/S, EVER. Not because foreigners are not good enough, but because foreigners can't invest that much money into going to korea for just a chance to get into code A if they are not there for another reason. And it's a fact that no IdrA/HuK/etc in GSL mean less views. It's not BW, the NA/EU scene is quite big. If GSL want to be at least a little on par with it, they need to offer seeds, or else, every players, even korans, will start to go more and more to NA/EU events and the korean scene will take a big hit. The Korean scene probably needs foreigners players/viewers to survive. But yeah, I guess Code A seeds are enough. They would risk it even without the Code A spot because you actually can't win anything major without going to Korea (Stephano being the lone exception in over a year of Starcraft). So any players who were interested in becoming the best would still need to go to and live in Korea. | ||
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
Sen, morrow, xigua, macseed, and hero are still in it! they can still make it to code S | ||
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cygnus-AT
36 Posts
i think idra getting auto code S spot is a shame. | ||
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Stiluz
Norway688 Posts
 Only good for spreading the SC2 love! If we get separated scenes the foreign scene will start to lag behind even more and eventually die out - that would suck for everyone but the extreme hardcore fans.Edit: As an added argument, there is much less incentive for non-Koreans otherwiseto go to Korea - less money and a foreign culture/language barriers etc. | ||
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