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ssg
United States1779 Posts
On February 01 2012 01:41 Destructicon wrote: Though, by those standards I guess Puma and HerO might have been more deserving of the last Code S seeds, but they aren't exactly foreigners. Idra finished higher than both Puma and Hero at the last two MLGs fwiw. | ||
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Morrisson
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On February 01 2012 01:45 ssg wrote: Idra finished higher than both Puma and Hero at the last two MLGs fwiw. What about dreamhack and NASL2 | ||
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Kontys
Finland659 Posts
If GOM sees large increases in number of people watching when foreigners play, they will keep dropping seeds and doing exchange programs. If not, then I should expect the seeding system to slowly vanish. | ||
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
GSL Jan, should have given seeds to the players who won/came runners up in the most recent tournaments. | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
Forcing foreigners to go through code B virtually guarantees no foreigners in the GSL, which is not what they want and it's not what we want. It takes a lot of time and therefore money also to go up from Code B if you aren't already living in Korea. We don't want to perpetuate the "KOREANS ARE ALWAYS BETTER LOZLZZZZLZLZ" stereotype because it's obviously untrue and also spoils any opportunity for actual intelligent discourse about Foreigners vs Koreans in any other tournament. It's about practice hours logged, not race or location. That said I'm disappointed in our foreigners this time around obviously. EG took a fucking dive this season. I'm hopeful for Sen but not that hopeful. I think this year we will see some old faces and new faces rise up to show they are the dominant western players, but so far it looks like we can expect last year's favourites to give underwhelming performances, and of course, those players should not receive advanced seeding. | ||
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TheFlock
United States389 Posts
From a business side - it definitely helps GOM to have them seeded into Code-S, but it may give a nice boost to Code-A ratings. Seeding=Good all around Foreigners=not yet ready for Code-S it seems | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
On February 01 2012 01:24 jj33 wrote: your post is retarded. but I'll play along, the Koreans are able to compete anywhere, while free welfare seeds to Code S as you can see doesn't pan out at all I am just tired of elitists. Thats the point of my "retarded" post. | ||
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
Dont give Code S seeds away, that's something that should be earned the normal/hard way. | ||
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sbroon
United Kingdom23 Posts
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
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Dattish
Sweden6297 Posts
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On February 01 2012 00:47 Aphasie wrote: Hey dipshit, you might want to spoiler that so my day was the only one you've ruined so far..... (Edit: Spoilered my qoute, in case he changes it - so u cant read it in the quote. Edit2: PMed him too) Anyway i dont feel it is right to give away free entry to "the most competitive tournament in the world". I understand it for GOM and i LOVE seeing foreigners compete. But it breaks the principle of competition, so in the end im against it. Why would you even go into a thread about foreigner GSL seeds the day 3 foreigners played Code A if you don't want the results spoiled ;p. @ OP I think a seed to the up and down matches would be the most fair, but as it stands gom's seeding has attraced several foreign players to try in the GSL and that's only a good thing. | ||
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Leviance
Germany4079 Posts
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Seiferz
United States640 Posts
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On February 01 2012 01:56 Usagi wrote: I am just tired of elitists. Thats the point of my "retarded" post. I don't see how you're justifying idiocy. You didn't prove any point, you just said a bunch of stupid things and then called it a shot at elitists. Giving seeds to non-Koreans isn't like flying over Koreans, individual seeding into invitational tournaments is completely different, those invites go to non-Koreans as well. The GSL is a qualification based tournament, Code S in particular is supposed to be the highest tier of competition, notoriously hard to get into and harder to maintain. Giving away seeds for free diminishes the value of, "Code S player". Seeding directly into Code A seems fair, even direct seeds into the Up/Down matches would be acceptable if it was at the end of a foreign qualifier. When foreigners fail to perform so spectacularly after being given an invitation to bypass a majority of the competition, it just looks like shit. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
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Kluey
Canada1197 Posts
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