EPTBlizzard on Stream Sniping. - Page 5
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Dalguno
United States2446 Posts
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unix04
United States89 Posts
furthermore, pro gamers are getting a free ride since they are getting paid to stream. they don't have to share a piece of their pie with blizzard for using their FREE platform (bnet) to generate income. i think that's well worth the trade-off. | ||
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
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Hoodlum
United States350 Posts
On January 20 2012 14:56 Kanil wrote: Nonsense. Blizzard has complete control over the matchmaking system and thus can have an effect on (repeated) stream sniping quite easily. They just choose not to. The problem is easily solved by not streaming... This is in no way blizzards problem... | ||
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Mr. Black
United States470 Posts
Then--first we should be happy that Blizzard allows streaming at all--It is entirely within Blizzard's rights under the EULA to shut down anyone streaming SC2 or any other Battle.Net game From the BNET Terms of use para 2. Additional License Limitations. .... You agree that you will not, under any circumstances: ..... exploit the Service, a Game or any part thereof for any commercial purpose, including without limitation .... (b) to communicate or facilitate any commercial advertisement or solicitation; From the SC2 End User License Agreement: Additional License Limitations..... You agree that you will not, under any circumstances: .... Exploit the Game or any of its parts for any commercial purpose without Blizzard’s express permission, with the sole exception that you may use the Game, or copies of the Game, on the Service at a cyber cafe, computer gaming center or any other location based site; | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
The level of 'interaction' everyone seems concerned about is minor from my experience of stream watching anyway... | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
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blizzind
United States642 Posts
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Tumor
Austria192 Posts
if you try to get a game with a pro this way just close the fucking stream, less lag and more fun  And normaly you can win when you play good enouth even if your opponent sees what you are doing hehe. LIKE CHESS | ||
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cutler
Germany609 Posts
From my point of view i actually think that Blizzard is quite nice to allow Streaming. A lot of players making money via streaming. I guess these players have to find a way around this issue. It is not Blizzard fault... Stream sniping/trolling stream etc are the reason they we cant have good pro gaming. Simply childish behaviour... Just my 2 cents... | ||
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Ryder.
1117 Posts
On January 20 2012 13:50 memcpy wrote: I agree with their argument that they can't do anything because they have no current policies against stream cheating. What they could do however is add stream sniping to their policies and ban people who have been reported on multiple accounts since it's easily verifiable by looking at their match history. Doesn't seem like any more of difficult than looking into harassment cases. Looking at their match history just verifies they played the person, it provides no indication to whether or not they were watching their stream... | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
This is not an issue at all. If you are so afraid of stream sniping/cheating then don't stream. Not everything needs a "fix" from Blizzard. | ||
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RockIronrod
Australia1369 Posts
How the fuck Deezer hasn't been banned for his numerous death threats against multiple players, and Destiny's kid is beyond me. I mean fuck, even constantly stalking them on ladder should constitute harassment. the act of tormenting by continued persistent attacks and criticism What repeated stream snipers to is a text book definition of harassment, yet Blizzard does shit all about it. I'm confused as to what they think harassment means. Note to Browder, every time I report someone for harassment, it's because they are consistently attacking someone personally, not because I want more rocks at my third. You seem to be confused. As for people saying that streamers should a) stop streaming, or b) put in a delay, stop saying that, those are retarded ideas. People can't stop streaming on a whim, for some people it's their source of income, it's how they pay for their food, and their kids food. E-sports is in a bad enough position without us losing community members over some guys being constant douchebags. As for a delay, it stops any kind of interaction with the viewership, an important part of streaming (which is in turn an important part of the community), and fucks up ad timings. | ||
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
On January 20 2012 16:20 RockIronrod wrote: Stream sniping isn't the problem, it's just a tool people use for the real problem, which is excessive harassment. How the fuck Deezer hasn't been banned for his numerous death threats against multiple players, and Destiny's kid is beyond me. I mean fuck, even constantly stalking them on ladder should constitute harassment. What repeated stream snipers to is a text book definition of harassment, yet Blizzard does shit all about it. I'm confused as to what they think harassment means. Note to Browder, every time I report someone for harassment, it's because they are consistently attacking someone personally, not because I want more rocks at my third. You seem to be confused. As for people saying that streamers should a) stop streaming, or b) put in a delay, stop saying that, those are retarded ideas. People can't stop streaming on a whim, for some people it's their source of income, it's how they pay for their food, and their kids food. E-sports is in a bad enough position without us losing community members over some guy being constant douchebags. As for a delay, it stops any kind of interaction with the viewership, an important part of streaming (which is in turn an important part of the community), and fucks up ad timings. I agree with the harassment point, but disagree with your second point. Whether or not they stream for a living or want to interact with viewers is not any concern of Blizzard's. They don't even need to allow people to stream if they don't want. I agree that it sucks for those who stream for a living, but that is their choice to do so and they should be thanking Blizzard for creating a game that allows them to do so. Not to mention they give us multiplayer and ladder for free. They could charge a stupid ass month fee like they do for games like WoW, but they don't. It is a trade-off. Either they can stream for a living and deal with snipers/cheaters, or find a work-around. It is not any of the game designer's problem and I do not believe that it should be. Again, as their statement says, it is not their fault or concern if someone decides to give out public information that may give people a chance or ability to cheat. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45174 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
Exactly the right response. | ||
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wunsun
Canada622 Posts
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On January 20 2012 14:43 screwy474 wrote: Couldn't blizzard simply add the ability to avoid players on ladder to b.net? Wouldn't that solve the entire stream sniping issue. Then for stream cheating in tourneys they have officials to deal with that stuff so the problem would disappear. I mean I could be over simplifying this entire thing but this seems like a pretty simple fix. You give people the ability to avoid people on ladder, then everyone will avoid people they can't beat and thus the ladder ranking system would be way off. | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
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Dakkas
2550 Posts
People are willing and intentionally showing themselves on the internet and complaining about the repercussions? This is no different then some pillock that posts nude pictures of themselves online then cries when they get revealed | ||
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