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See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
January 20 2012 09:40 GMT
#121
Completely reasonable. The amount of oversight the alternative would require would make 1984 look like anarchy
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
January 20 2012 09:47 GMT
#122
On January 20 2012 17:38 PhiliBiRD wrote:
blizzard doesnt need to do anything

the solution is simply delaying the stream.

I fucking love seeing ads instead of the end battle, and never having any sort of interaction with the streamer.
And to the inevitable response, I also fucking love compromising quality so people like Deezer can jerk off over their e-infamy.
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
January 20 2012 09:48 GMT
#123
On January 20 2012 18:40 See.Blue wrote:
Completely reasonable. The amount of oversight the alternative would require would make 1984 look like anarchy

How is it even comparable? A week long ban for constantly harassing players is apparently tyranny, while threatening the lives of children is just freedom of expression or something?
-stOpSKY-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada498 Posts
January 20 2012 11:04 GMT
#124
On January 20 2012 13:50 SKTerran.117 wrote:
What else did people REALLY expect them to do?



You do know in the TOS it states they can ban your account without reason right? Do you really think the community would be outraged if Blizzard banned all of deezers accounts. Also do you think Blizzard would care about profit? He already paid for all the accounts they got their money, let them ban him imo.
1sz2sz3sz
Profile Joined January 2012
Andorra173 Posts
January 20 2012 11:09 GMT
#125
On January 20 2012 20:04 -stOpSKY- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 13:50 SKTerran.117 wrote:
What else did people REALLY expect them to do?



You do know in the TOS it states they can ban your account without reason right? Do you really think the community would be outraged if Blizzard banned all of deezers accounts. Also do you think Blizzard would care about profit? He already paid for all the accounts they got their money, let them ban him imo.


They could but why would they?

WAAAA PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY DONT LIKE DEEZER PLEASE BAN HIM BLIZZARD EVEN THOUGH HE HASNT DONE WRONG
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
January 20 2012 11:16 GMT
#126
Well that's one where I agree with Blizzard. They really can't do a whole lot against this issue^^

Ladder is just for fun and for mechanics anyway, the days for ladder as good training are gone.
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halfies
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom327 Posts
January 20 2012 11:18 GMT
#127
the idea that blizzard should punish stream snipers is retarded. of course its your own fault if you stream games anbd someone uses it to kill you.
its much better if they put there time into fixing things which
a) are actually useful to 99% of the community
b) have a reliable method of in client detection

i feel bad for people who are harassed by Deezer, CombatEZ, and there friends, but really, the amount of shit they talk in game is probably bannable anyway. it would be much better if the results disagree was fixed, or maphacks, or drop hacks.
i hear that the cheat community for this game is huge and not that hard to find, so i feel that should be blizzards priority
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
January 20 2012 11:20 GMT
#128
On January 20 2012 20:09 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
They could but why would they?

WAAAA PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY DONT LIKE DEEZER PLEASE BAN HIM BLIZZARD EVEN THOUGH HE HASNT DONE WRONG


Actually he manipulates the ladder system in order to get the same opponent repeatedly, not to mention harassing people and using multiple accounts to get past the fact that his first was ignored.

You'd think that would be enough, but I guess not. Seems like there's no reason not to using sniping to trade wins or whatever. I'm sure there's some method the ladder wizards could cook up to use this method.
memcpy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States459 Posts
January 20 2012 11:21 GMT
#129
On January 20 2012 17:34 shortsteve wrote:
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On January 20 2012 13:50 memcpy wrote:
I agree with their argument that they can't do anything because they have no current policies against stream cheating. What they could do however is add stream sniping to their policies and ban people who have been reported on multiple accounts since it's easily verifiable by looking at their match history. Doesn't seem like any more of difficult than looking into harassment cases.


it's not that cut and dry. By streaming online you're waiving your right to online privacy. If someone wants to take advantage of that fact then it's perfectly legal. Blizzard would have no legal standing to ban people that stream cheat or stream snipe. The only way Blizzard could legally stop stream cheating would be to disallow streaming of their product, which is stupid since streaming is essentially free advertising for Blizzard.


I agree that it's legal, as I stated above by saying they have no current policy against it. What I said is that they should make it an explicit banable offense. Even without doing so, Blizzard's ToS states that they are allowed to ban an account for any reason. They don't need a "legal standing".
Soma.bokforlag
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden448 Posts
January 20 2012 11:21 GMT
#130
i am a bit dissapointed that blizzard felt they had to make this statement.. ofcourse theres nothing they can do about stream cheating :S
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
January 20 2012 11:22 GMT
#131
I don't see why streamsnipe ever should be a problem. Just turn of the sound in game after each match, cut to webcamview and queue while chatting with your fans (at a random time). Problem solved...
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
January 20 2012 11:22 GMT
#132
ofcourse Blizzard cant do anything against stream sniping. How should they? If you want to avoid being sniped - dont stream.
keep it deep! @zulison
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 11:24:47
January 20 2012 11:24 GMT
#133
On January 20 2012 20:20 darkscream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 20:09 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
They could but why would they?

WAAAA PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY DONT LIKE DEEZER PLEASE BAN HIM BLIZZARD EVEN THOUGH HE HASNT DONE WRONG


Actually he manipulates the ladder system in order to get the same opponent repeatedly, not to mention harassing people and using multiple accounts to get past the fact that his first was ignored.

You'd think that would be enough, but I guess not. Seems like there's no reason not to using sniping to trade wins or whatever. I'm sure there's some method the ladder wizards could cook up to use this method.

also apparently leaving games when he doesn't get the players he likes -- and other people have been banned for that.
(although the reasons for the other people are wrong, as those ones the intent is to lower their mmr, but it's still _leaving games_, which apparently is against blizzard's rules).
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 20 2012 11:40 GMT
#134
On January 20 2012 13:53 hytonight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 13:51 Leeoku wrote:
honest question. how hard is it to add delay...

its clearly easy and it clearly doesnt work.

not suprised blizz doesnt really care.....but dont they agree that some people turn it into harassment? (deezer)


Really? I think with a 1-2 minutes delay this will be easily dealt with.
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orangesunglasses
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 11:46:02
January 20 2012 11:45 GMT
#135
whenever i see a pro report a stream cheater i laugh a bit. how on earth do you think blizz is going to be able to tell if your reports are valid. really. even if they had some mega ip hacker thing you had to agree to use a friend could still watch the stream and report in. its impossible to stop really...


and yeh stream sniping is cool. i want to see ppl q up to snipe idra and other pros thats just good fun...
How you win is the only thing that matters
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
January 20 2012 11:46 GMT
#136
i agree with blizzard, it is not a problem on their side...
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 20 2012 11:48 GMT
#137
I don't think Blizzard is responsible to do anything, but........

Would it really hurt to allow players to be able to block up to 5 players on the ladder so you never meet them again?
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 20 2012 11:48 GMT
#138
Yeah wtf? They're not even talking about stream sniping.

My super easy way to prevent stream sniping: After playing against someone, have it so that you can't get matched against that player for 30 minutes or so.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 20 2012 11:53 GMT
#139
I think it is interesting that they highlight that harassment is a violation their comments. Although stream sniping/cheating is not against the ToS, I bet they would be more open to the idea that Deezer and CombatEX are harassing the players. There is a difference between using a stream to gain an advantage in a game and using a stream to actively harass the player and assure they cannot play with anyone else.

Stream sniping for one or a couple game(s): Ok

Stream sniping over and over until the pro player is forced to stop streaming: Not ok?

I personally would be willing to draw that distinction. Maybe Blizzard will to.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 20 2012 11:54 GMT
#140
On January 20 2012 20:48 Plexa wrote:
I don't think Blizzard is responsible to do anything, but........

Would it really hurt to allow players to be able to block up to 5 players on the ladder so you never meet them again?


That is a really great idea. Or at least petition Blizzard to block a specific account if they harass them while streaming.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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