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of course they cannot do anything about it. It's pretty much impossible for them to do so. It's the streamer that needs to delay his stream enough. But it's good that they are aware of it and that they actually follow the scene a lot. Because sometimes you don't know "HOW" much they follow. Everyone knows they do but how much is the question.
I'm wondering about the "Super Team Color Mod thingy" if that is illegal? I heard or saw someone write in the official thread that someone working at blizzard co said it was fine.? If someone knows the "actual" answer or better can provide a link with someone saying these exact words? ( PM ME if so )
Because i don't want to get banned for stuff like that (since i like the color mod... looks sparky :-) I would appreciate it.
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On January 21 2012 00:09 Barrin wrote: The idea that Blizzard could do something about this is so ridiculous that it hadn't even crossed my mind.
I'll agree with this one, and I think that's pretty much what they're saying in the OP. I haven't seen anyone yet put forth what blizzard could/should do in order to prevent stream sniping/cheating.
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On January 20 2012 22:29 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Why doesn't Blizzard provide an argument for taking that stance? I can't imagine what it is. Why make a statement like this without defending it? We already knew that they weren't punishing stream cheating. And they just told us that they aren't planning on doing so in the future either. They're not entering a debate, they're informing.
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there is no argument that blizzard is making... what or why would they do anything.. if a user decides to stream his or her matches that is there fault not blizzards... it has nothing to do with blizzard. Why would we even ask them about this...has nothing to do with them.
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On January 20 2012 20:48 Plexa wrote: I don't think Blizzard is responsible to do anything, but........
Would it really hurt to allow players to be able to block up to 5 players on the ladder so you never meet them again?
Think about your suggestion for a second
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Stream sniping isn't a problem that Blizzard has to fix. It can easily be fixed by not streaming.
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Even if Blizzard can't do anything directly about stream cheating/sniping, some of it obviously falls under something they say they do regulate: harassment. People like Deezer and CombatEX are obviously harassing people pretty damn hard, yet they get away with it because they're harassing with stream shenanigans? Fuck that.
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put a 10 minute delay on your stream.
problem solved.
it's like streaming your online poker for EVERYONE to see. if your opponent happens to see it, then it's your own dumb fault.
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On January 20 2012 13:50 SKTerran.117 wrote: What else did people REALLY expect them to do?
Let me tell you what I expected them to do.
I expected that as soon as CombatEx stream-snipes Incontrol, Incontrol climbs up the 8 stories of the EG mansion, taking a break for a MONSTER ENERGY DRINK on the fourth floor, and gets on the roof. Then he directs a floodlight into the sky, reflecting a pattern against the gray clouds -- the symbol of a hammer. The Ban Symbol.
"I hope you see this, Blizzard," Incontrol says out loud, to no one in particular. For his night is full of terrors, mostly involving perfect blind hard counters and cannon rushes.
Thousands of miles away, in Anaheim, a dark figure looks up in the sky and, despite all we understand concerning science, is able to see the Ban Symbol from Arizona. The figure raises his wrist to his face.
"Assemble the team." His voice is rich with dark purpose. He waits for their arrivals. One by one, they join him, offering no greeting save a nod of acknowledgment. They distribute their equipment and prep it, knowing that this night, they will serve full use. When all is finally ready, the figure rallies them into a sleek, winged craft, and they embark upon their secret enterprise.
No one sees them fly -- the few who are awake at this time of night don't bother to watch the murky black sky. They're too enraptured by their own personal terrors, clicking the "FIND MATCH" button and finding no one on the other side but a single, diabolical name: CombatEx.
CombatEx himself reclines in his chair, laughing, chortling with sinister amusement as he monitors multiple streams and chat rooms, proxy 2 gating another hapless victim. He thinks he hears something above the basement, but he dismisses it -- dismisses it like a fool.
The roof caves in around him. Figures in black land in the room, surrounding him on all sides, their rifles aimed at his body. He looks down at his greasy tee shirt to see a single, red dot on his heart.
Realization dawns on him.
"Wait! NO!"
"Know this," one man says. "If you snipe another player, we will snipe you."
"Unless you're just using Ghosts in-game," another adds. "That doesn't count."
A single bullet pierces his body and he slumps into his chair.
No one hears from CombatEx again, and no one knows why. Blizzard SWAT claims no credit in the Battle.net forums. Because they're the heroes that Starcraft deserves, but not the heroes that we need right now. They're watchful protectors, and when injustice strikes, they return with retribution -- Soon(TM).
So, naturally, this news comes as a bit of a disappointment to me.
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Italy12246 Posts
zarepath, thank you very much.
edit: ironic how, come to think of it, that was very....incontrol-ish...of you.
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On January 21 2012 00:36 zarepath wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 13:50 SKTerran.117 wrote: What else did people REALLY expect them to do?
Let me tell you what I expected them to do. I expected that as soon as CombatEx stream-snipes Incontrol, Incontrol climbs up the 8 stories of the EG mansion, taking a break for a MONSTER ENERGY DRINK on the fourth floor, and gets on the roof. Then he directs a floodlight into the sky, reflecting a pattern against the gray clouds -- the symbol of a hammer. The Ban Symbol. "I hope you see this, Blizzard," Incontrol says out loud, to no one in particular. For his night is full of terrors, mostly involving perfect blind hard counters and cannon rushes. Thousands of miles away, in Anaheim, a dark figure looks up in the sky and, despite all we understand concerning science, is able to see the Ban Symbol from Arizona. The figure raises his wrist to his face. "Assemble the team." His voice is rich with dark purpose. He waits for their arrivals. One by one, they join him, offering no greeting save a nod of acknowledgment. They distribute their equipment and prep it, knowing that this night, they will serve full use. When all is finally ready, the figure rallies them into a sleek, winged craft, and they embark upon their secret enterprise. No one sees them fly -- the few who are awake at this time of night don't bother to watch the murky black sky. They're too enraptured by their own personal terrors, clicking the "FIND MATCH" button and finding no one on the other side but a single, diabolical name: CombatEx. CombatEx himself reclines in his chair, laughing, chortling with sinister amusement as he monitors multiple streams and chat rooms, proxy 2 gating another hapless victim. He thinks he hears something above the basement, but he dismisses it -- dismisses it like a fool. The roof caves in around him. Figures in black land in the room, surrounding him on all sides, their rifles aimed at his body. He looks down at his greasy tee shirt to see a single, red dot on his heart. Realization dawns on him. "Wait! NO!" "Know this," one man says. "If you snipe another player, we will snipe you." "Unless you're just using Ghosts in-game," another adds. "That doesn't count." A single bullet pierces his body and he slumps into his chair. No one hears from CombatEx again, and no one knows why. Blizzard SWAT claims no credit in the Battle.net forums. Because they're the heroes that Starcraft deserves, but not the heroes that we need right now. They're watchful protectors, and when injustice strikes, they return with retribution -- Soon(TM). So, naturally, this news comes as a bit of a disappointment to me.
Oh dear lord! That was so awesome!
Couldn't blizz add something to make sure that if you face the same player 3 times during 24 hours you will be unable to find this player again for the remaining 24 hours. I still remember Idra playing combatEX for so so so many games in a row. I don't understand why this is so...
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Put 3 minutes delay on stream. Problem solved. I don't even think this is thread worthy
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On January 21 2012 00:40 Cereb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 00:36 zarepath wrote:On January 20 2012 13:50 SKTerran.117 wrote: What else did people REALLY expect them to do?
Let me tell you what I expected them to do. I expected that as soon as CombatEx stream-snipes Incontrol, Incontrol climbs up the 8 stories of the EG mansion, taking a break for a MONSTER ENERGY DRINK on the fourth floor, and gets on the roof. Then he directs a floodlight into the sky, reflecting a pattern against the gray clouds -- the symbol of a hammer. The Ban Symbol. "I hope you see this, Blizzard," Incontrol says out loud, to no one in particular. For his night is full of terrors, mostly involving perfect blind hard counters and cannon rushes. Thousands of miles away, in Anaheim, a dark figure looks up in the sky and, despite all we understand concerning science, is able to see the Ban Symbol from Arizona. The figure raises his wrist to his face. "Assemble the team." His voice is rich with dark purpose. He waits for their arrivals. One by one, they join him, offering no greeting save a nod of acknowledgment. They distribute their equipment and prep it, knowing that this night, they will serve full use. When all is finally ready, the figure rallies them into a sleek, winged craft, and they embark upon their secret enterprise. No one sees them fly -- the few who are awake at this time of night don't bother to watch the murky black sky. They're too enraptured by their own personal terrors, clicking the "FIND MATCH" button and finding no one on the other side but a single, diabolical name: CombatEx. CombatEx himself reclines in his chair, laughing, chortling with sinister amusement as he monitors multiple streams and chat rooms, proxy 2 gating another hapless victim. He thinks he hears something above the basement, but he dismisses it -- dismisses it like a fool. The roof caves in around him. Figures in black land in the room, surrounding him on all sides, their rifles aimed at his body. He looks down at his greasy tee shirt to see a single, red dot on his heart. Realization dawns on him. "Wait! NO!" "Know this," one man says. "If you snipe another player, we will snipe you." "Unless you're just using Ghosts in-game," another adds. "That doesn't count." A single bullet pierces his body and he slumps into his chair. No one hears from CombatEx again, and no one knows why. Blizzard SWAT claims no credit in the Battle.net forums. Because they're the heroes that Starcraft deserves, but not the heroes that we need right now. They're watchful protectors, and when injustice strikes, they return with retribution -- Soon(TM). So, naturally, this news comes as a bit of a disappointment to me. Oh dear lord! That was so awesome! Couldn't blizz add something to make sure that if you face the same player 3 times during 24 hours you will be unable to find this player again for the remaining 24 hours. I still remember Idra playing combatEX for so so so many games in a row. I don't understand why this is so...
I'm sure they could, but i'm also sure something like that could then be exploited or mess with the ladder in general.
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I pretty much agree with Zarepath. I sort of just assumed that these sort of things were already happening and CombatEX/Deezer were now living in caves? Guess not.
Really, I never expected Blizzard to do anything about watching a stream and using it to your advantage. I never expected them to do anything about stream sniping, either... I just expected them to do something about abusing it to face one player over and over again. Seems like even if they were doing it without the stream (just leaving games and rejoining until the opponent was cleared) it would be abuse then, too.
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i feel like if they just implemented something on b-net that made it so that two people wouldn't get matched up more than 1 time within one hour that might resolve the issue (or something to that effect)
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it's not even about being unable to counter it, it's just that this is NOT illegal in any way, shape or form.
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If you stream then you should expect some stream cheaters. Obviously Blizzard cannot do anything.
If the streamer is that upset of losing because of suspicion of stream cheaters then he/she should go offline.
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is stream sniping even a problem?? So what if someone steals some ladder points by watching someone's stream while playing against him. The other guy can just stop streaming or put a delay in the stream when he really cares..
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There are delay servers, people...
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