On January 20 2012 13:50 SKTerran.117 wrote: What else did people REALLY expect them to do?
You do know in the TOS it states they can ban your account without reason right? Do you really think the community would be outraged if Blizzard banned all of deezers accounts. Also do you think Blizzard would care about profit? He already paid for all the accounts they got their money, let them ban him imo.
They could but why would they?
WAAAA PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY DONT LIKE DEEZER PLEASE BAN HIM BLIZZARD EVEN THOUGH HE HASNT DONE WRONG
Deezer hacks.
Also he account shares, harasses to the fullest extent of the word, and he's constantly threatened to kill multiple people. Why do people insist on defending Deezer? He's a genuinely terrible person for no reason.
I agree with blizzard, if people want to broadcast their games then they have no right to cry if their opponents are amongst their viewers.
If Manchester United started broadcasting their strategy/tactics sessions to all their fans, would you really cry about say, Arsenal watching the broadcast and adapting too?
Broadcasting is a personal choice and it does have downsides, it is absurd to demand blizzard "do something about it".
On January 20 2012 21:06 greenknight999 wrote: I agree with blizzard, if people want to broadcast their games then they have no right to cry if their opponents are amongst their viewers.
If Manchester United started broadcasting their strategy/tactics sessions to all their fans, would you really cry about say, Arsenal watching the broadcast and adapting too?
Broadcasting is a personal choice and it does have downsides, it is absurd to demand blizzard "do something about it".
I would complain if during every training session they decided to run onto the field, shit in the goals, and then threaten to kill my son. That's just me though.
On January 20 2012 13:50 SKTerran.117 wrote: What else did people REALLY expect them to do?
You do know in the TOS it states they can ban your account without reason right? Do you really think the community would be outraged if Blizzard banned all of deezers accounts. Also do you think Blizzard would care about profit? He already paid for all the accounts they got their money, let them ban him imo.
They could but why would they?
WAAAA PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY DONT LIKE DEEZER PLEASE BAN HIM BLIZZARD EVEN THOUGH HE HASNT DONE WRONG
Deezer hacks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN7q95MZzw0 Also he account shares, harasses to the fullest extent of the word, and he's constantly threatened to kill multiple people. Why do people insist on defending Deezer? He's a genuinely terrible person for no reason.
Yet Blizzard doesn't ban him or anything? What a joke.
Again, this type of harassment is one of the prices of streaming. Blizzard can't punish someone for abusing their ladder system via a stream.
No but they can MAKE IT HARDER...
How about you give a player the right to not let certain players have them on their friends list. OR, they could make it so that in your friends list, you don't get tagged as "in-game" the second you queue for a game, making it much harder to stream snipe if streamers put up a black screen before queing.
On January 20 2012 13:54 blah_blah wrote: Encouraging to know that Blizzard can't even be bothered to figure out what stream sniping actually is.
Not sure if trolling or just didn't read
Obviously you either didn't read or you don't understand the difference between stream sniping and stream cheating. So many people don't understand the difference and it's pretty damn simple.
Stream sniping = watching stream to que up at the same time to try and get matched up against the person. There are a lot of people that turn off the stream after they get the snipe.
Stream cheating = watching the stream during play. Deezer for example, stream snipes and then stream cheats.
Please everyone learn the difference as the meanings are entirely difference.
Why doesn't Blizzard provide an argument for taking that stance? I can't imagine what it is. Why make a statement like this without defending it? We already knew that they weren't punishing stream cheating.
On January 20 2012 22:29 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Why doesn't Blizzard provide an argument for taking that stance? I can't imagine what it is. Why make a statement like this without defending it? We already knew that they weren't punishing stream cheating.
Umm this is exactly what they should do. If you dont want people sniping you, dont stream. BUT, I think streaming has far more benifits (Money) for the player then the occasional loss to sniping.
On January 20 2012 13:50 SKTerran.117 wrote: What else did people REALLY expect them to do?
You do know in the TOS it states they can ban your account without reason right? Do you really think the community would be outraged if Blizzard banned all of deezers accounts. Also do you think Blizzard would care about profit? He already paid for all the accounts they got their money, let them ban him imo.
They could but why would they?
WAAAA PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY DONT LIKE DEEZER PLEASE BAN HIM BLIZZARD EVEN THOUGH HE HASNT DONE WRONG
Deezer hacks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN7q95MZzw0 Also he account shares, harasses to the fullest extent of the word, and he's constantly threatened to kill multiple people. Why do people insist on defending Deezer? He's a genuinely terrible person for no reason.
He doesnt hack. Why post that video? Dragon got dropped because HE was using someone elses account If it was a drophack he wouldve lagged out with the countdown screen and then left.
On January 20 2012 22:29 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Why doesn't Blizzard provide an argument for taking that stance? I can't imagine what it is. Why make a statement like this without defending it? We already knew that they weren't punishing stream cheating.
Well their argument is, mostly, 1) there's no way we can enforce anything, 2) by streaming your games you are automatically giving him an advantage, wether that's good sportsmanship or not.
It's common sense obviously, so i kinda agree it's not a particularly useful statement. I kinda wish their moderators were more strict, at least that way there's no way idiots like Deezer could still play.
On January 20 2012 22:29 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Why doesn't Blizzard provide an argument for taking that stance? I can't imagine what it is. Why make a statement like this without defending it? We already knew that they weren't punishing stream cheating.
Well their argument is, mostly, 1) there's no way we can enforce anything, 2) by streaming your games you are automatically giving him an advantage, wether that's good sportsmanship or not.
It's common sense obviously, so i kinda agree it's not a particularly useful statement. I kinda wish their moderators were more strict, at least that way there's no way idiots like Deezer could still play.
But thats just the issue of streamcheating, sure stream cheating has nothing to do with their game, but stream sniping does. It doesn't make sense that someone can abuse the matchmaking system to get matched against the same person every game. It also takes away from the validity of ladder ranks (what little there is left anyway), not to mention they apparently invite people to blizzard regional invitationals based on ladder ranks.
On January 20 2012 22:29 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Why doesn't Blizzard provide an argument for taking that stance? I can't imagine what it is. Why make a statement like this without defending it? We already knew that they weren't punishing stream cheating.
Well their argument is, mostly, 1) there's no way we can enforce anything, 2) by streaming your games you are automatically giving him an advantage, wether that's good sportsmanship or not.
It's common sense obviously, so i kinda agree it's not a particularly useful statement. I kinda wish their moderators were more strict, at least that way there's no way idiots like Deezer could still play.
But thats just the issue of streamcheating, sure stream cheating has nothing to do with their game, but stream sniping does. It doesn't make sense that someone can abuse the matchmaking system to get matched against the same person every game. It also takes away from the validity of ladder ranks (what little there is left anyway), not to mention they apparently invite people to blizzard regional invitationals based on ladder ranks.
There's no difference between sniping and cheating when it comes to that, both come from you streaming and both can't be avoided through punishment of who is cheating/sniping. The only way with the current system would be to make it impossible to match up with people on your ignore list, but even that can be somehow used to trick the matchmaking system.
Of course, if ladder worked more like iccup and other bw servers, there would be no such problems in the first place, but one can dream...
On January 20 2012 13:53 0neder wrote: Blizzard has FAR more important things to fix that directly relate to the game and bnet. Stream sniping is an outside issue that should hopefully be last on their list.
So not how it works. You know they certainly don't have a list called "current sc2 issues" which they just work of one by one.
Well I'm actually suprised they even released a statement. I still don't get why they don't just permaban the IP of people like Deezer who are known to constantly stream snipe/cheat, they could atleast kill of his sc2 account. I know that wouldn't fix the issue, but it just amazes me that people like him get away with that shit ezpz.
On January 20 2012 22:29 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Why doesn't Blizzard provide an argument for taking that stance? I can't imagine what it is. Why make a statement like this without defending it? We already knew that they weren't punishing stream cheating.
I think there was an argument in that statement. Basically it is outside of their realm which is what we all suspected anyways.
Umm... actually Blizzard could do something about this.
For anyone that has ever played on Xbox Live, you know that you can set certain people you match up against to "prefer" (meaning you match up against them more) or you can "avoid" them (meaning you match up against them much less frequently). Would it be so hard for Blizzard to implement such a feature? I figure if you can block communications from a certain player, you should also be able to block, or at least, severely lower your chances of playing a certain player.
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