EPTBlizzard on Stream Sniping. - Page 3
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Erik.TheRed
United States1655 Posts
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Sporadic44
United States533 Posts
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Unidus
United States24 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9105 Posts
"Stream cheating" on the other hand is what Blizzard described, watching the stream to cheat during the game. Perhaps I am naive to think someone might do one without doing the other, but they aren't the same and shouldn't be used interchangeable. Of course there's noting Blizzard can do about this, unless people want them to take action if someone presents them with irrefutable proof against someone, but that's rather unlikely. The obvious solution is stream delays, though I realize this has the drawbacks of interfering with spectator interaction and isn't available on all streaming sites. | ||
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BuddhaMonk
781 Posts
Blizzard has the correct and only response here. It's not their responsibility. | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On January 20 2012 14:23 Jonoman92 wrote: I'm pretty annoyed with their definition. I thought "stream sniping" pertained to people who watch a stream to try and get matched vs. a certain opponent by seeing when they search for a match. "Stream cheating" on the other hand is what Blizzard described, watching the stream to cheat during the game. Perhaps I am naive to think someone might do one without doing the other, but they aren't the same and shouldn't be used interchangeable. Of course there's noting Blizzard can do about this, unless people want them to take action if someone presents them with irrefutable proof against someone, but that's rather unlikely. It doesn't really matter because both are equally unenforceable. Both situations the streamer is willingly putting himself in a position to be abused. | ||
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
On January 20 2012 13:51 Leeoku wrote: honest question. how hard is it to add delay... Lots of people don't like to add delay because it hinders their ability to communicate with their viewers. | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On January 20 2012 14:27 Noro wrote: Lots of people don't like to add delay because it hinders their ability to communicate with their viewers. Then clearly the weight of being stream sniped/cheated multiple times in a row isn't as detrimental to viewership as the inability to communicate with viewers. | ||
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
On January 20 2012 14:12 Cubu wrote: i got a shiver down my spine when i realised blizzard didn't know the difference between stream SNIPING and stream CHEATING Not really...it is a degree of difference in terms of results and enforcability. To most people it is the same thing. | ||
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JeanLuc
Canada377 Posts
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
On January 20 2012 14:29 Tyrant0 wrote: Then clearly the weight of being stream sniped/cheated multiple times in a row isn't as detrimental to viewership as the inability to communicate with viewers. Exactly. It is a trade off that is on the streamer, not Blizzard. | ||
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VectorCereal
Canada54 Posts
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najo
United States75 Posts
On January 20 2012 13:58 FabledIntegral wrote: That's not even the definition of stream sniping, what!? Stream sniping is merely watching the other player's stream to try and get matched vs them, then you CLOSE the stream. What they're describing is stream cheating. Massive difference. He's right, you're wrong. Who gives a shit? Neither are Blizzard's problem, surprised they even put out a statement regarding it. | ||
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Le BucheRON
Canada619 Posts
On January 20 2012 13:50 memcpy wrote: I agree with their argument that they can't do anything because they have no current policies against stream cheating. What they could do however is add stream sniping to their policies and ban people who have been reported on multiple accounts since it's easily verifiable by looking at their match history. Doesn't seem like any more of difficult than looking into harassment cases. Smartest thing I've read in a long time. | ||
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CecilSunkure
United States2829 Posts
On January 20 2012 13:50 memcpy wrote: I agree with their argument that they can't do anything because they have no current policies against stream cheating. What they could do however is add stream sniping to their policies and ban people who have been reported on multiple accounts since it's easily verifiable by looking at their match history. Doesn't seem like any more of difficult than looking into harassment cases. Pretty good point. This only needs to be done on popular streams as well. I agree completely. | ||
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geno
United States1404 Posts
Actual stream sniping is, I think, a more appropriate problem for them to address. Being forced to play the same people over and over again that are only in it to annoy you and give you a hard time because they figured out how to game the system is most certainly something I think Blizzard should care about. Even separated from streaming, being able to time your game searches to play against particular people is highly sketchy and not a good user experience. | ||
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
On January 20 2012 14:34 CecilSunkure wrote: Pretty good point. This only needs to be done on popular streams as well. I agree completely. There are issues there though. Why should Blizzard regulate streams? It is not their job at all. Also, what counts as a "popular" streamer? Someone semipopular could get pissed off about it and claim discrimination. It is just ridiculous to me that people make their work public then expect someone else to regulate it. There are valid ways around stream sniping and cheating that are controlled by the streamer's end, it is their choice not to use them. | ||
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screwy474
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najo
United States75 Posts
On January 20 2012 14:38 TheAmazombie wrote: There are issues there though. Why should Blizzard regulate streams? It is not their job at all. Also, what counts as a "popular" streamer? Someone semipopular could get pissed off about it and claim discrimination. It is just ridiculous to me that people make their work public then expect someone else to regulate it. There are valid ways around stream sniping and cheating that are controlled by the streamer's end, it is their choice not to use them. I completely agree. If you don't want to get stream sniped, don't stream. It's as simple as that. | ||
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