EPTPossible targets for the replicator - Page 2
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foxmeep
Australia2320 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
Maybe replicating voids against zerg in the late game (after they transition to broods) to get a quick transition to air? I feel like this unit is going to be scrapped at some point. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On October 25 2011 00:37 Laurens wrote: Can you replicate your own units? Can you replicate a replication? If so, protoss will never have to pay more than 200/200 for a unit. You just make 1 and then start making replicators ... Edit: this would make Archons, colossi and tempests cheaper. It would make void rays 50 minerals cheaper, but 50 gas more expensive so you probably wouldn't do that. It would also let us basically skip researching storm, since the replicant comes with all unit specific upgrades. | ||
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wiredrat
Spain4 Posts
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VPVash
United States139 Posts
On October 25 2011 00:45 DoomsVille wrote: Honestly, I don't see the point of replicating your own units. The only one I can see that is worthwhile is the immortal (assuming the replicator build time is significantly less than the immortal build time). Maybe replicating voids against zerg in the late game (after they transition to broods) to get a quick transition to air? I feel like this unit is going to be scrapped at some point. You can replicate the other persons units not yours | ||
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meadbert
United States681 Posts
Does it copy old unit, restart at whatever the starting cost is, have its own energy that is unchanged or go straight to 200? If it went straight to 200 and you could replicate hallucinated units then you could produce 2 replicators. The first replicates a Sentry. This guy now has hallucination since he gets all abilities researched. Then you hallucinate High Templar. Second Replicant replicates High Templar and has Storm + 200 energy. That could be interesting, but I am guessing replicators do not start with 200 energy. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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MassacrisM
United Kingdom149 Posts
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VPVash
United States139 Posts
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On October 25 2011 00:37 Laurens wrote: Can you replicate your own units? Can you replicate a replication? If so, protoss will never have to pay more than 200/200 for a unit. You just make 1 and then start making replicators ... Edit: this would make Archons, colossi and tempests cheaper. It would make void rays 50 minerals cheaper, but 50 gas more expensive so you probably wouldn't do that. Im pretty sure it doesn't work on massive. | ||
TrueRedemption
United States313 Posts
Replicating your own units seems like a more interesting concept personally, you can adjust your own composition just prior to an engagement. Replicating any of opponents units seems a tad counter intuitive personally. Essentially by replicating one of their units you're simply saying I'm going to do what you are doing, but better. If a terran is going tanks TvP they already are playing the positional game, why do you want to replicate a tank to try and play their game back at them, especially considering you paid more for yours? Obviously the replicant would be quite useful for stopping tech based timing plays such as the 1-1-1, but in the current state of the game there are very few units ZvP and TvP which would justify replication. You aren't going to get a siege tank to replicate if your opponent is going bio, yet bio is what it would be most useful against. Edited out an obvious mistake =P And with it went the only personally interesting concept regarding the unit >< sorry for the trouble. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
The good thing with 1-1-1 is that everything works so well together. Raven does not help vs it, Banshees are not that good vs it. Stalkers are very maneuverable but weak tanks are not. Marines complement the tanks so much better than stalkers. With the Gas and pop limit it feels like the only thing worth using it on is SCV (for orbitals) Voidrays/immortals (for tech switches on the fly) and situationly casters. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5212 Posts
On October 25 2011 00:49 TrueRedemption wrote: Why not replicate a 300/200 6 food colossus, you're only paying 200/200 4 food? I'm getting sick of telling people that you can't replicate massive unit. Please educate yourselves regarding the new units before posting ideas. On October 25 2011 00:51 Eppa! wrote: With the Gas and pop limit it feels like the only thing worth using it on is SCV (for orbitals) Voidrays/immortals (for tech switches on the fly) and situationly casters. I love this idea. I'm not sure it is viable, but the idea that you could tech switch from an Immortal to a Void Ray (who both cost around 200-200 anyway) is awesome. | ||
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VTPerfect
United States487 Posts
On October 25 2011 00:42 DoomsVille wrote: This will never work. You have to go down the protoss and terran tech trees at once. Investment in production/tech is going to put you far behind in army. Maybe in a very late game scenario I can see it working... but at that point you might as well replicate the ghosts. thats not true, terran tech is the fastest cheapest thing in the world scv - cc - rax - tech lab + ghost academy at same time - ghost. Plus since ghost academy is a mere 50 gas and ghost is 100 gas it won't interfere too badly with colossus tech. Though i've heard that ghost emp got a major nerf in HotS which might in itself solve at least one problem, but you also need to figure that a huge disadvantage protoss has in PvT lategame is terran get to sac 40 of their 75 or so workers and replace them with orbital muling and have more supply in army. This would allow Protoss to do the same and perhaps it wont make sense early/mid game you'de be stupid not to do it late game. | ||
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Darksoldierr
Hungary2012 Posts
Also if its unlimited range, then it opens up a wide range of possiblities , with obs being anywhere, you can do a suprise fungal or emp with cloacked ghosts. Oh god this would make wonders if hold position lurkers would be still in game | ||
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meadbert
United States681 Posts
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
Should effectively end the DT rush in PvP | ||
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AGsc
Canada120 Posts
On October 24 2011 23:59 Klipsys wrote: Can you replicate a hallucination? What if I replicate an infestors and then NP a replicator? Increplication. | ||
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