EPTPossible targets for the replicator - Page 38
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Deleted User 183001
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Kuja
United States1759 Posts
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antsache
United States12 Posts
On October 29 2011 12:40 Hattori_Hanzo wrote: Why would you want to replicate a unit which does no damage and takes double damage? They'll never see it coming. | ||
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Arisen
United States2382 Posts
On October 29 2011 12:05 Chicane wrote: Did it ever cross your mind that there is a possibility it will make it into the game, but they would nerf it? I don't see how you can't possibly consider the option that they could do something like increase the price of the replicator so that it is only good in specific situations, otherwise you will just get outnumbered. Yes, it crossed my mind, and the unit is still fucking retarded. Yes, this is a cool concept for single player, or we, but protoss is protoss. Protoss is not zerg, protoss is not terran. Protoss has weaknesses and strengths that make it protoss. I realize protoss is having trouble at the competitive level (although they certainly can/do compete), but putting a unit in that can completly circumvent your races weakness is STUPID. I can't all of a sudden decide that as zerg, I don't like that my units are cheap/fast but not as strong and suddenly shit 10 colossus onto the field, and I wouldn't want to. This unit circumvents what makes starcraft great; 3 seperate, completely unique races.Can people not see how stupid it is to let you copy another unit from another race to compensate for the weaknesses of your race? Not only is this unit a mess to balance, it's idea is fucking HORRIBLE. The people who say that this is an "interesting unit" are fucking lying to themselves or play protoss and just want it because it's going to be way good. | ||
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Goldfish
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On October 29 2011 12:27 Denis Lachance wrote: I wouldn't say I have a violent fervor against the replicant, but I do think it's dumb to have a unit entirely dedicated to copying other races' units... Sure it provides interesting theory for gameplay but it does not fit the game. Agreed. Bring back the Dark Archon with Mind Control and let's call it a day >.>. | ||
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cptKewk
Sweden87 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman02/b4a07766_mule.JPG) If this has been answered, I'm sorry! | ||
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gulshngill
Malaysia140 Posts
When mutas run in to harass, fungal the ball of mutas and storm it and i hope blizz doesn't nerf it by making it unable to replicate workers. | ||
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
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Son of Gnome
United States777 Posts
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Anarion55
United States72 Posts
1. siege tank. For obvious reasons 2. chargelot/medivac 3. Infestor, Swarm host, raven, ghost 4. your own void rays (for super fast tech switch late game) 5. Your own high templar (for early psy storms or storm drops) 6. shredder in opponents mineral line 7. scv to make orbitals and get mules+scan | ||
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Fugue
Australia253 Posts
However, like a few people here, I'm fundamentally against the concept. I have never liked unit or structure capture abilities because they are either ridiculously imbalanced, or nerfed to the point of near uselessness. Neural Parasite has gone through numerous changes to get it where it is now, and I still think it's an iffy ability to be giving any unit. But, I can see the benefit to having niche abilities that really are pointless in a lot of circumstances, but useful in just a few. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On October 29 2011 16:45 Goldfish wrote: Agreed. Bring back the Dark Archon with Mind Control and let's call it a day >.>. Dark Archon also had maelstrom and feedback. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
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Deimos0
Poland277 Posts
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On October 29 2011 15:29 Arisen wrote: Yes, it crossed my mind, and the unit is still fucking retarded. Yes, this is a cool concept for single player, or we, but protoss is protoss. Protoss is not zerg, protoss is not terran. Protoss has weaknesses and strengths that make it protoss. I realize protoss is having trouble at the competitive level (although they certainly can/do compete), but putting a unit in that can completly circumvent your races weakness is STUPID. I can't all of a sudden decide that as zerg, I don't like that my units are cheap/fast but not as strong and suddenly shit 10 colossus onto the field, and I wouldn't want to. This unit circumvents what makes starcraft great; 3 seperate, completely unique races.Can people not see how stupid it is to let you copy another unit from another race to compensate for the weaknesses of your race? Not only is this unit a mess to balance, it's idea is fucking HORRIBLE. The people who say that this is an "interesting unit" are fucking lying to themselves or play protoss and just want it because it's going to be way good. This is a unit that could provide us with tense and interesting games. I do agree that it is a bandaid fix to a deeper problem that toss is having right now, but It's certainly not the worst idea that Blizz could have come up with. The thing about the replicator is that it is STILL PROTOSS. The theme of protoss is very expensive, but valuable/powerful units. Yes, a seige tank or infestor is going to have crazy synergy with protoss armies (storm, forcefield, etc) but the unit is also going to cost a crazy amount of minerals, gas and supply. Hell I could see this being almost as expensive as a capital ship if it makes it into the game. That is still protoss - spending a lot, to have the BEST. It's also a very situational unit. You're never going to outnumber a terran's tanks, outside of rushes - so it becomes something to fight rushes with. You're never going to be able to sacrifice a unit as well as zerg can, so it becomes something that you need to protect even more than collossi/templar. | ||
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ssartor
United States129 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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FlilFlam
Canada109 Posts
Will it die? Would it be worth it to have a permanent mule for 200/200? Also whether or not they can re-transform is of great relevance. if they can only morph once, it's a sad day for sc2 strategy, as i guess toss is to hopeless we have to copy the units of other races | ||
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TheBrofessor
Canada429 Posts
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