EPTAlso, it's not like foreigners can't go to GSL, but GSL isn't online, so that's the main problem. The same way, koreans have to do quite an investment to go to MLG or Dreamhack.
The Korean Online Invasion - what do you prefer? - Page 2
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
Also, it's not like foreigners can't go to GSL, but GSL isn't online, so that's the main problem. The same way, koreans have to do quite an investment to go to MLG or Dreamhack. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On June 26 2011 07:25 vrok wrote: If you voted no you should delete your TL account right now and GTFO. It's that simple. There's no reason not to allow them unless you hate high level Starcraft and global communities (the essence of TL). Koreans even have huge disadvantages when participating in foreigner online tournaments. I voted yes, but this is what I hate, it's such a bullshit situation for foreign players with people who bring this into the equation, it's a no-win situation. If they win, the Korean obvious had lag and was playing at a shitty time, if they lose, Koreans own foreigners obviously better players playing better. | ||
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cactuschewer
United Kingdom152 Posts
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Hikari
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Lunares
United States909 Posts
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cronican
Canada424 Posts
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Dagobert
Netherlands1858 Posts
TL;DR: If the event is cool (Home Story Cup), I'll watch. If it isn't, I'll watch if the players are high profile. If neither is the case,... I stop procrastinating. | ||
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rickybobby
United States405 Posts
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
On June 26 2011 07:20 Mordiford wrote: By the way, your poll is slightly misleading, IPL isn't explicitly excluding Koreans from the qualifiers which is sort of what that poll option implies, it's a regional limitation to North America and Europe, players in other regions can't play for logistics reasons but the IPL has expressed interest in expanding to more regions in the future. It's very different from, "No koreans should be invited". Well, they do. Koreans with NA accounts couldn't participate in the IPL Season 2. To quote Alex from IGN: "No, you must be living in EU/NA/LA to play." I know that IPL have interest in expanding, but right now it's very exclusive to people living in EU/NA/LA. | ||
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
Non-Koreans are going to have to either step up, and bring their play to the Korean's level, or get left in the dust. | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On June 26 2011 07:30 TheSilverfox wrote: Well, they do. Koreans with NA accounts couldn't participate in the IPL Season 2. To quote Alex from IGN: "No, you must be living in EU/NA/LA to play." I know that IPL have interest in expanding, but right now it's very exclusive to people living in EU/NA/LA. Thanks for this clarification, definitely boycotting the IPL from now on. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On June 26 2011 07:30 TheSilverfox wrote: Well, they do. Koreans with NA accounts couldn't participate in the IPL Season 2. To quote Alex from IGN: "No, you must be living in EU/NA/LA to play." Yeah, that's a region lock, that's not, "No koreans allowed" as the poll implies when listing IPL. It was done for logistics reasons and they hope to expand to new regions in the future(including Korea). People in Japan, Australia etc weren't allowed to play either, it was regional. | ||
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vrok
Sweden2541 Posts
On June 26 2011 07:26 Mordiford wrote: I voted yes, but this is what I hate, it's such a bullshit situation for foreign players with people who bring this into the equation, it's a no-win situation. If they win, the Korean obvious had lag and was playing at a shitty time, if they lose, Koreans own foreigners obviously better players playing better. The truth hurts I guess..? That doesn't make it less true though. They do have lag and play at shitty times, regardless if it's the reason for their loss or not. | ||
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
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GuTTuRaLPanda
Sweden54 Posts
On June 26 2011 07:29 cronican wrote: The more clashes we have between Koreans and Foreigners the quicker Foreigners will realize how much better they need to get. I dont think this will happen. I think if the foreigners want to get as good as the koreans, they will have to up the competition between themselves, because the koreans are allready too far ahead. Sure, there are the very best players of every country (say whitera kas of ukraine, nani jinro of swe etc etc etc) but we dont have nearly as many high level players as them, and we wont get simply because our society and the economy of most foreign "progamers" does not allow for the same kind of training environment as the koreans. | ||
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Retsukage
United States1002 Posts
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On June 26 2011 07:33 Mordiford wrote: Yeah, that's a region lock, that's not, "No koreans allowed" as the poll implies when listing IPL. It was done for logistics reasons and they hope to expand to new regions in the future(including Korea). People in Japan, Australia etc weren't allowed to play either, it was regional. It's still blatantly discriminatory. "Logistics" issues implies laziness or lack of interest in ensuring equality of opportunity and fair competition. There isn't actually any real burden on the tournament hosts to allow people from outside regional boundaries who own NA accounts to play, so I have lost a ton of respect for IGN for having done this. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On June 26 2011 07:37 vrok wrote: The truth hurts I guess..? That doesn't make it less true though. They do have lag and play at shitty times, regardless if it's the reason for their loss or not. Yeah, I'm just pointing out it blows for foreign players in that regardless of whether they win or lose, they'll get flack, if they win their opponent had lag and bad time so they had a huge advantage and if they lose then they suck in comparison, they can't really come out looking good. | ||
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Nontrivial
United States56 Posts
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