EPTThe Korean Online Invasion - what do you prefer? - Page 21
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stenole
Norway868 Posts
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On June 26 2011 07:12 Wesso wrote: The only thing I'm afraid of is that foreigners will refuse to practice as much as the koreans (which IMO is totally understandable) so the SC2 scene will stop growing because nobody can beat the koreans. I don't mind them coming, but I hope the foreigners react to it by training harder. Nah, look at Naniwa and HuK. Both are practice monsters afaik. Especially HuK. I do believe it's gonna be necessary for foreigners to invest alot and actually go to Korea though. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On June 27 2011 04:16 Veldril wrote: I think we should separate competitions into tiers, so we can facilitate the growth of new pro-gamers by having them compete in lower tier non-Korean tournaments first without having to battle the Koreans. For top tier competitions, where most pros have already established their names (such as MLG, DreamHack), inviting Korean is a must to make the tournament more competitive and motivate the top pro to get better. There are so many small online tournaments that are running(in the EU for instance) on a weekly basis. If you want to make a name for yourself they are a pretty good way to get into the pro scene,and i don't see many Koreans participating in these as much.Koreans get more invitationals now days,that's true,but separating the competition in tiers would be just bad because it would widen the gap and wouldn't server any purpose. Koreans flooding the foreign E-sport scene is most probably the best thing that can happen for Europeans and Americans because they will be forced to work and practice harder. | ||
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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
I expect some pretty big things to come from the EG team house, and team REIGN has a good amount of potential too. We just need to wait it out a few months to start really seeing the effects. As well as hope that more teams outside of Korea start taking this team house practice more seriously. I remember back in the Beta people were saying that practicing in the Korean BW style was not the proper way to train for SCII, since it was much less mechanical based. (at that time) We've started to see that it was not true, and just as in BW, the best way to get better is to just play the shit out of the game. I just hope most of the foreigner players realize that playing a bit everyday just will not put results out there anymore. | ||
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
On June 26 2011 07:13 iYiYi wrote: NA and EU games are so boring to watch. They just mass units when any Korean timing would stomp them. The more Koreans the better, give them all a shot at qualifying! You sir clearly know what you are talking about. Please, tell us more. I do like koreans in tournaments if they have to go through the same qualifiers as the rest of players. I dislike what MLG did for example. Well....it would be quite bad if all tournaments did the same thing, 1 was ok. | ||
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Voltaire
United States1485 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On June 27 2011 04:31 Euronyme wrote: Nah, look at Naniwa and HuK. Both are practice monsters afaik. Especially HuK. I do believe it's gonna be necessary for foreigners to invest alot and actually go to Korea though. "you from usa." "yeah." "and you from eg, I've seen you with eg shirt yesterday." "yeah." "so you idra." "no, I'm machine!" "yes, practice machine." such a troll interview, carmac. :-) | ||
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Heavenly
2172 Posts
On June 27 2011 04:37 Gotmog wrote: You sir clearly know what you are talking about. Please, tell us more. I do like koreans in tournaments if they have to go through the same qualifiers as the rest of players. I dislike what MLG did for example. Well....it would be quite bad if all tournaments did the same thing, 1 was ok. Why would you want them to go through the qualifiers lol, July already crushed everyone in there.Iin that case MC, Losira, and MMA would've just gone through the open bracket and knocked out any up-and-comers who were hoping to get a shot in the big stage, which would be much more unfair for them. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On June 27 2011 04:40 Heavenly wrote: Why would you want them to go through the qualifiers lol, July already crushed everyone in there.Iin that case MC, Losira, and MMA would've just gone through the open bracket and knocked out any up-and-comers who were hoping to get a shot in the big stage, which would be much more unfair for them. How many games did July win within what range of time? Forgot the exact numbers, but I remember it was absurd, like a win under 10 minutes on average. | ||
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cfoy3
United States129 Posts
Another aspect again is the treatment of korean players. It is unfair to expect foreigners who want to practice starcraft as their job, but still want other aspects to their lives-social for instance. I mean it is simply not right the kind of treatment koreans do to themselves. I think no one should be subject to such a lifestyle. | ||
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
In fact, I think having Koreans come here is better than foreigners going over there. Because a Korean playing on EU or NA will play hundreds of players, showing them new builds, a higher level of skill. All his opponents will step up their game and gain valuable experience. While having one foreigner moving into a Korean teamhouse will benefit only that player; not any other foreigners. | ||
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Namkung
Canada151 Posts
On June 27 2011 05:22 cfoy3 wrote: I still am not convinced having more Koreans is a good thing. First it would only be good if more Koreans actually raised the skill of foreigner. In BW this did not happen, it was simply not fair to have foreigner who where just trying to do the best they could to face the super soldiers of korea. Now in sc2 it is not quite the same situation. There is a lot more involvement in the scene and pro houses are starting to form. Hopefully this will begin to allow foreigners to start catching up. However, for right now if koreans just come and dominate everything completely and thoroughly it will actually hurt the game. The average person who watches sc2 and knows nothing of team liquid will be put off by the lack of personal connection with the player. You cannot deny that the feeling of a personal connection is a big draw. I am simply concerned that the loss of such a connection will hurt viewership and ultimently esports. Another aspect again is the treatment of korean players. It is unfair to expect foreigners who want to practice starcraft as their job, but still want other aspects to their lives-social for instance. I mean it is simply not right the kind of treatment koreans do to themselves. I think no one should be subject to such a lifestyle. who are you to say that "no one should be subject to such a lifestyle" ?? lol.. they are giving it their all if a foreigner doesnt practice as much because they want to balance other aspects of their life, that's fine but don't expect to win against someone who put in more time / effort. same thing applies to pretty much everything in life | ||
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Xercen
United Kingdom375 Posts
On June 27 2011 05:22 cfoy3 wrote: I still am not convinced having more Koreans is a good thing. First it would only be good if more Koreans actually raised the skill of foreigner. In BW this did not happen, it was simply not fair to have foreigner who where just trying to do the best they could to face the super soldiers of korea. Now in sc2 it is not quite the same situation. There is a lot more involvement in the scene and pro houses are starting to form. Hopefully this will begin to allow foreigners to start catching up. However, for right now if koreans just come and dominate everything completely and thoroughly it will actually hurt the game. The average person who watches sc2 and knows nothing of team liquid will be put off by the lack of personal connection with the player. You cannot deny that the feeling of a personal connection is a big draw. I am simply concerned that the loss of such a connection will hurt viewership and ultimently esports. Another aspect again is the treatment of korean players. It is unfair to expect foreigners who want to practice starcraft as their job, but still want other aspects to their lives-social for instance. I mean it is simply not right the kind of treatment koreans do to themselves. I think no one should be subject to such a lifestyle. playing against koreans on a regular basis raises your skill. Proof = huk hogan and idra | ||
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kaisr
Canada715 Posts
On June 27 2011 05:22 cfoy3 wrote: . I am simply concerned that the loss of such a connection will hurt viewership and ultimently esports . | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On June 27 2011 04:37 Gotmog wrote: You sir clearly know what you are talking about. Please, tell us more. I do like koreans in tournaments if they have to go through the same qualifiers as the rest of players. I dislike what MLG did for example. Well....it would be quite bad if all tournaments did the same thing, 1 was ok. Actually its worse for upcoming foreigners if koreans needed to qualify as well. Most of the times this means that a spot from the open tournament/qualifier rounds will go to a korean rather then an upcoming foreigner. It gives them less chance to show their abilities. | ||
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
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Awesomeness
Germany1361 Posts
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
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pedduck
Thailand468 Posts
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United States4853 Posts
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