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Kerm
Profile Joined April 2010
France467 Posts
April 02 2011 08:03 GMT
#661
Bought mine.

Haters be haters.
What i know is that I know nothing - [http://twitter.com/UncleKerm]
GaryBrackett
Profile Joined December 2010
Bulgaria106 Posts
April 02 2011 08:04 GMT
#662
hoping In Control will restream this like he did for the GSL
love you Geoffykins xxxx
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
April 02 2011 08:07 GMT
#663
Not for the first season. Gonna let the kinks work themselves out before I put money down on this. On paper it's a great value, but I'll have to see how good the production quality is first.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
April 02 2011 08:09 GMT
#664
On April 02 2011 16:44 Maero wrote:
Not worth it at all.

Just in my opinion, but the whole thing seems pretty unprofessional and ran by people with ulterior motives.


Ummm, this I don't understand. Ulterior motives? You mean money?

Are you suggesting there is something wrong with that? Interesting.
mAgixWTF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany103 Posts
April 02 2011 08:10 GMT
#665
On April 02 2011 05:09 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 05:08 bonifaceviii wrote:
Count me a member of the "minimal commercials isn't good enough" crowd. If I pay I don't want commercials.


What do you suppose they do in between matches?


if i remember correctly there is no "inbetween matches" since the matches are going to be prerecorded. nasl should be perfectly able to add content where they like!
joheinous
Profile Joined August 2010
Iceland522 Posts
April 02 2011 08:15 GMT
#666
I won't buy the first season but I'll be catching the free streams if they're on good times and definitely the finals and hear the reviews from people about the ticket and base my decision on that. Secondly there are often a lot of problems during the first try with such thing and I'm sure that they'll be sorted out by the second season. So unless the games/production/technical problems are just awful or if ticket holders are treated like complete garbage, both of which realistically won't happen, I'd be really excited about buying a ticket for the second/third season or however it's going to be.
Everything is self-evident
MaKfejA
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada117 Posts
April 02 2011 08:22 GMT
#667
$25 is actually less than GSL, guys. GSL is $10/month, this is $25/3 months. Even an eight year old could do the math. Higher quality stream, good time, good players. What more can you ask for?
warshop
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada490 Posts
April 02 2011 08:24 GMT
#668
I'll pay to watch Artosis. Seriously.

Anyhow, I just wish they offered per month, but I'll probably end up paying for it in the end.
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 08:27:02
April 02 2011 08:26 GMT
#669
On April 02 2011 17:22 MaKfejA wrote:
$25 is actually less than GSL, guys. GSL is $10/month, this is $25/3 months. Even an eight year old could do the math. Higher quality stream, good time, good players. What more can you ask for?

How about live casting of the best players playing in a lag free studio environment, with a live audience. Like, you know, the GSL? Pretty silly question.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
April 02 2011 08:26 GMT
#670
Holy shit, $25 for 3 months with a 1080p live stream?

Words cannot describe how much I am down for that.
aLuLz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany175 Posts
April 02 2011 08:26 GMT
#671
On April 02 2011 17:22 MaKfejA wrote:
$25 is actually less than GSL, guys. GSL is $10/month, this is $25/3 months. Even an eight year old could do the math. Higher quality stream, good time, good players. What more can you ask for?


But we know all that the GSL support is awesome. VODs are several minutes after the games up. But who knows about the NASL guys?
SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
April 02 2011 08:29 GMT
#672
Why does no tournament organizer understand what every drug dealer does.
Get the viewer hooked. The first ones are for free.
When they know what it's about, they might just come back for more.

With the prize money it could be an economical question but having a first couple of seasons for free might just make everybody look, not just those fans who pay for something without really knowing what's coming.
Not my chair. Not my problem. That's what I say
caracarn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden141 Posts
April 02 2011 08:32 GMT
#673
I´m gonna wait a few days and see how things turn out. I might get a pass later on...
Jinro Whaiting!
warshop
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada490 Posts
April 02 2011 08:32 GMT
#674
On April 02 2011 17:26 aLuLz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 17:22 MaKfejA wrote:
$25 is actually less than GSL, guys. GSL is $10/month, this is $25/3 months. Even an eight year old could do the math. Higher quality stream, good time, good players. What more can you ask for?


But we know all that the GSL support is awesome. VODs are several minutes after the games up. But who knows about the NASL guys?


More reason not to judge until we actually see what they have to offer. People were saying the exact same thing when they heard GSL would charge money.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=149284

Look at the pools' numbers, it's pretty ironic isn't it?
Rokk
Profile Joined March 2010
United States425 Posts
April 02 2011 08:34 GMT
#675
On April 02 2011 13:36 cory1234 wrote:
$25 is complete bs for this. MLG has free replays for download. This isn't Korea! Americans should get free VODs. Make the rest of the World pay lol.

There is zero percent chance I will pay $25 for this, even tho I started paying for GSL. It sucks because I won't be able to watch them live .

mlg has a lot less consistent content. you're really not making any points besides you think other nationalities should pay for an American event, which, obviously, is a terrible argument.
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
April 02 2011 08:37 GMT
#676
I doubt there's gonna be even close to the amount of content in the GSL. Come on, you can't compete with 3-4 hours of new content most days of the week.
RoyalCheese
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic745 Posts
April 02 2011 08:38 GMT
#677
I probably won't pay because i don't have time to watch all the games, nor enough to get my moneys worth. I would love if you could pay like 2$ for maybe 3 matchups, though, or something in that spirit so i could buy VOD of artosis and other players I'm interested in.
Kennigit: "Chill was once able to retire really young, but decided to donate his entire salary TO SUPPORT ESPORTS"
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 08:41:50
April 02 2011 08:41 GMT
#678
On April 02 2011 17:32 warshop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 17:26 aLuLz wrote:
On April 02 2011 17:22 MaKfejA wrote:
$25 is actually less than GSL, guys. GSL is $10/month, this is $25/3 months. Even an eight year old could do the math. Higher quality stream, good time, good players. What more can you ask for?


But we know all that the GSL support is awesome. VODs are several minutes after the games up. But who knows about the NASL guys?


More reason not to judge until we actually see what they have to offer. People were saying the exact same thing when they heard GSL would charge money.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=149284

Look at the pools' numbers, it's pretty ironic isn't it?

Try reading the thread you're linking instead of just looking at the poll pictures.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
April 02 2011 08:42 GMT
#679
Will there a test stream to see if i can watch the 1080p stream without problems?

My connection is good enough, but GSL first seasons i could never watch the HQ stream because it was lagging for me (I'm on a 50mbit up/down optic fiber line).
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Whizon
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands64 Posts
April 02 2011 08:42 GMT
#680
I went for "no" at this point in time. I read up to about page 16 something of the posts of this thread, but here's my view:

I find it interesting to see there's people screaming "do it for eSports", "you have to do this", or similar statements. Weird. If you wish to imply there's a need to give it a chance then it feels plain wrong. It feels like there's this must to invest, else it will fail. That implies a risk that even those who invest now can see the product fail miserably. I am not saying this is the actual case for the NASL, but people bringing up those arguments are shooting themselves in the foot. If you're screaming such things to convince others, try changing strategy. Explain people your passion for this game/league/eSports. Don't go all fanatic "YOU GOTTA -- ". No, I don't gotta nothing. Perhaps it's just my feeling and observation, but it feels way too forced for me.

I am a casual gamer who loves to see top SC2 play. However being casual as I am, I mostly enjoy free streams. Sometimes a bit of GSL, but due to times not being too great for me I do not watch much GSL at all. Day[9] archives are nice from time to time, but seeing pros stream live usually gets me my fix of SC2 if I wish to see it. I would very, very much like to take time for a live SC2 game between two pros. Currently that's not a realistic scenario for me. As a Dutchman the times may not be too great for me either regarding NASL. Since it's a lot earlier "there" than it is "here". The idea of being able to watch a pro match between two players live in a great setting with awesome atmosphere is something I'd pay for. But given my style of "consuming" SC2 at the moment it's not realistic (yet). I think it's a shame. Waiting for a European version may solve this. Or perhaps I need to be less casual. Time will tell.

I think the legitimate complaints should be taken serious by the NASL, though:

- Why is there no PayPal option to pay?
- Why are people with a pass left in the dark about the vague commercial thing?

Those two seem to be fairly acceptable from a neutral persons point of view. I believe the key of selling anything game related which you have to pay for is either make sure you're audience is hooked nevertheless - WoW style - or make it accessible as hell to start something new up. If others did this (league thing) already, or this is too new and fresh you have to at the very least be crystal clear about conditions, and make payment methods as accessible as possible. If potential viewers have to go to various "obstacles" to get to your product - and keep in mind the product has not by any means proven itself yet - or have hesitations consider it your goal to eliminate those things right away. Hence the two things I brought up I think are realistic "obstacles".
Live and learn.
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