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Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 05:43:23
April 02 2011 05:42 GMT
#641
If its for 3 months of play then its only $5-10 more than gomtv and is apparently 1080p? seems reasonable to me. I think ill wait to see what the quality of the service is but I don't think that price is completely ridiculous by any stretch.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1601 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 05:54:20
April 02 2011 05:52 GMT
#642
I myself will probably pay for the NASL tournament.

That aside I do not see why ANY tournament needs the people to pay for it.
ESPECIALLY NASL.
Any sponsor will have their advertisements seen by those watching the games. That at one time was enough. The GSL is a different story not only do were their early sponsors not mainstream global companies, but they then had to find a way to pay to improve the service around the world. Perhaps have a 1080P available for pay, but I see no reason why anyone should have to pay to see the Vods in LQ either. Also it is essentially free (possibly a source of income) to host them on youtube (if you're allowed).

On April 02 2011 14:42 Wr3k wrote:
If its for 3 months of play then its only $5-10 more than gomtv and is apparently 1080p? seems reasonable to me. I think ill wait to see what the quality of the service is but I don't think that price is completely ridiculous by any stretch.


Compared to any other tournament(especially MLG) it is actually an extraordinary deal. The issue is why do people have to pay? Streaming costs have not gone up since BW. Though I do believe you have to Blizzard's permission (don't know if you have to pay for that permission).
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
April 02 2011 05:56 GMT
#643
On April 02 2011 14:20 zanmat0 wrote:
I don't even see myself watching the free stream. Where's the interest in laggy games, a convoluted format and mediocre commentators when I already have the superior GSL to watch and the actual game itself to play?

And still having commercials on a paid stream? That's just a slap in the face.


Actually, me having sex with your girlfriend a day after you break up is a slap in the face. Sponsor recognition and ads, even in pay per view events, is inconvenient but also pretty standard.

In short, you're entitled to you skepticism but let's not blow this out of proportion.
Starion
Profile Joined December 2010
United States32 Posts
April 02 2011 06:03 GMT
#644
Like most people, I'm reasonably busy; I live off of vods. If the vods are commercial free with a premium sub, I'm totally down. Otherwise I'm in the "undecided" category. I really want to support na pro sc, but if I'm shelling out the dough, I don't want to waste my vod time on ads.

Could be moot; op says minimal commercial interruption, nasl.tv says none.

Just to note: I don't mind ads on the live stream so much (hurk, because you don't watch it!) but seriously, I'm sure like the GSL I'll be able to catch the stream every now and then. The matches have to pause anyway, casters need breaks, crew needs breaks, something might need to be reset/setup. . .ads during that time would be okay. If it pulls in a bit more money, its better than just staring at an empty studio.

Second note: I'm not rich by any means, but $25 seems like a fine price for such a long event.
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Authweight
Profile Joined May 2010
United States304 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 06:26:47
April 02 2011 06:23 GMT
#645
Things to realize:

NASL free stream will be higher quality than the Gomtv HQ stream. The HQ for the NASL stream will be hilariously good, I'm 90% sure I won't even be able to run it no matter what, just because its more bandwidth than my interwebz can handle.

According to the Q&A thread, there will be a later rebroadcast for European viewers, in the same quality, also free.

The player pool has many of the most successful players in Korea, including the previous GSL's chamion and runner-up. It also has other Koreans who have seen less success in the individual leagues, but have done well internationally and in the Korean Team Leagues. The sheer number of upsets going on in the past month leads me to believe that the pro-level players of this game are incredibly close in skill, so picking the 50 "best" players will always be highly subjective and arbitrary. With a few notable exceptions (no dimaga, jinro, or huk ), I feel the NASL has done a good job of getting a very reasonable player pool.

According to the Q&A thread, the games will be played online, casted live as the game is played, then edited and broadcast later. This is the biggest negative, as we will be unable to see the players actually playing, or their live reactions to the games. There will also be no spectators in the studio as far as I can tell.

Overall Pros: Player group contains many excellent players from Korea, NA, and EU. Production value should be high, with little downtime, and very very good free streaming in both NA and EU time zones.

Overall Cons: VODs cost money, and there will be no live crowd, and no live players in the studio.

What you get for free: Excellent stream with rebroadcasts for EU watchers.

What you pay for: VODs, stream so high quality just loading it will be tough for many viewers.

My personal conclusion: I feel like the $20 is not worth it, simply because of how damn good all the free stuff is. The only thing I would get for my $$$ would be VOD access, the value of which will depend greatly on how consistently I end up watching the live broadcasts. I'll start off just watching the stream, and if I find myself missing key matches that I want to see, I'll pay for the VODs. I will probably not bother paying for the GSL anymore, because the NASL is a much better deal and there's no way in hell I have time to follow both leagues. The GSTL I will continue paying for, because it is so awesome ^^
opaque
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation89 Posts
April 02 2011 06:23 GMT
#646
Do people just see the price and begin to rage for no reason? Bearing the quality of the actual cast (it will take time to improve, just like the GSL), the price is rather fair. Not to mention that the "minimal" commercials probably refer to the style of advertising we see in the GSL for the sponsors.
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GinevraFX
Profile Joined November 2010
83 Posts
April 02 2011 06:25 GMT
#647
I voted no, because I am quite busy, and usually watch the VODs afterwards only. I do not think I would have enough time to watch both the VODs for GSL and NASL, and unfortunately between the two tournaments, I prefer the GSL right now.

I guess with time, maybe the NASL will prove itself. However, as a casual follower of TL site, I was not particularly impressed with the organization of the NASL from what I've read. So, I'd rather wait.
Roses are red, violets are blue, the only archon I'll make is the one with you <3
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 06:27:34
April 02 2011 06:27 GMT
#648
only credic card ? i dont have one ... why not paypal as gsl and everything else ?
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
April 02 2011 06:32 GMT
#649
NASL is shaping up to be an amazing league, and this is only the first tournament!

definitely going to pay.
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 06:45:33
April 02 2011 06:40 GMT
#650
No. $25 for mostly regular online games with way lower overall player/caster quality than GSL, with a commercial here and there... I could watch stuff like that anywhere, why would I pay for these specific games between the same players? It's nothing special IMO. I don't care about 1080p or whatever.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
FunkQue
Profile Joined October 2010
United States165 Posts
April 02 2011 07:25 GMT
#651
Paying and having to view any commercial is why I'm not interested.

I find it to be completely unacceptable.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
April 02 2011 07:32 GMT
#652
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Tegin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States840 Posts
April 02 2011 07:40 GMT
#653
I'll consider buying once the schedule is released and the stream is verified..until then the free LQ stream will work for me.
Pain is weakness leaving the body.
j3cht
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States86 Posts
April 02 2011 07:42 GMT
#654
didn't they say if you buy a pass you could download the actual replays from the games? cuz i would buy it for that!
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference.
Maero
Profile Joined December 2007
349 Posts
April 02 2011 07:44 GMT
#655
Not worth it at all.

Just in my opinion, but the whole thing seems pretty unprofessional and ran by people with ulterior motives.
haylmfao
Profile Joined January 2011
124 Posts
April 02 2011 07:44 GMT
#656
I can't wait to pay for commercials!
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
April 02 2011 07:45 GMT
#657
On April 02 2011 16:42 j3cht wrote:
didn't they say if you buy a pass you could download the actual replays from the games? cuz i would buy it for that!

That would be dumb, then the replays would be leaked and all the Youtube/community casters and their mothers would be casting the replays.
MBAACC | SG | shit at fighting games
j3cht
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States86 Posts
April 02 2011 07:51 GMT
#658
On April 02 2011 16:45 ptrpb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 16:42 j3cht wrote:
didn't they say if you buy a pass you could download the actual replays from the games? cuz i would buy it for that!

That would be dumb, then the replays would be leaked and all the Youtube/community casters and their mothers would be casting the replays.



true, but im almost positive that they did initially say buying the premium ticket would give access to replays. I see the major flaw, but I was really excited for this aspect.
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference.
nglt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States187 Posts
April 02 2011 07:54 GMT
#659
voted no, i dont plan to buy the 1st season ticket since things have seemed very unorganized with NASL, but will decide come season 2 overall how i felt about NASL season 1
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
April 02 2011 08:01 GMT
#660
I kinda go to the internet to get away from commercial breaks. I don't see the point paying for a ticket, and then in the middle of a game "BUY OLD SPICE MOTHERFUCKER. I'M ON A HORSE"
Especially as the brands arn't even sold in my country lol.

I think I'll watch the stream if it suits my schedule some day, and see how it goes. If it's got a good production value, I'll buy a season 2 ticket.
As far as I can understand the whole concept is based on american wrestling though, so it might just get embarrassing :d
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