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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 09:26:52
April 02 2011 09:26 GMT
#701
The fact that this thread is 35 pages is a testament to people's ability to complain about anything.

lol: 36
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
joheinous
Profile Joined August 2010
Iceland522 Posts
April 02 2011 09:27 GMT
#702
On April 02 2011 18:12 btx0 wrote:
I don't know what you guys are complaining about. $20 is approximately €14 ... that's like one shitty movie with popcorn you don't have to see. ^^

Is there any way to purchase this without a credit card?


While this is true it's a bigger statement about how horrible going to the movies has become haven't been in years at this point and it just keeps getting more and more expensive and maybe it's just age but movies seem to be getting worse too

My point is that just because one thing is broken is no reason to break another one. I definitely don't think that 20 dollars is too much if they deliver what the promise in nice and professional packaging but it remains to be seen. So personally I'll be waiting for season 1 to finish and see how it goes but after that I'm very open to buying tickets if everything checks out.
Everything is self-evident
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 09:30:46
April 02 2011 09:30 GMT
#703
On April 02 2011 08:50 integral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 08:32 infinity2k9 wrote:
On April 02 2011 08:29 integral wrote:
Definitely buying a pass. Think about it, guys, you're supporting the careers of players that couldn't do this otherwise.


Only the prizes go to the players though that's it? Like i explained in my posts it doesn't seem to be supporting the careers of players at all unless the subscriptions are going to be evenly given out among the players, which would be extremely unfair considering it was an invitational.

The subscriptions support the league, which the sponsors calculate will in turn support the sponsors. The money is there for a reason, and their business model requires income of some kind. Advertisements run on the same principle -- advertisers aren't in the habit of donating money to streamers to run their ads, it's a business decision. If it didn't recoup costs they wouldn't do it.

NASL has operating fees as well. Without some sort of cash flow they cannot produce good quality content. Without good quality content, viewership declines. Without significant viewership, sponsors are hard to find for leagues like this. And leagues like this support the careers of players who couldn't play without leagues like this to win.

It all makes sense, it's just a question of whether you want to support esports or not.


Wouldn't sponsors want more people to watch the free stream, where presumably, more adverts will be played?

I'll support the sponsors by watching more of their commercials on the free stream and support esports in this way.
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
April 02 2011 09:33 GMT
#704
Absolutely no issues with the price as long as everything runs smoothly and all.

Unfortunately I don't have the money to purchase one for season 1, but if it all goes smoothly and I have some spending money before the second season, I'll definitely get myself a ticket.
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
Avaloch
Profile Joined August 2010
241 Posts
April 02 2011 09:36 GMT
#705
I'm actually curious what Minimal commercial interruption actually means. Does this mean that while streaming, even the premium stream has commercials interrupting the games/casts?
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
April 02 2011 09:42 GMT
#706
On April 02 2011 18:36 Avaloch wrote:
I'm actually curious what Minimal commercial interruption actually means. Does this mean that while streaming, even the premium stream has commercials interrupting the games/casts?


Maybe they're not sure what it means yet. If I were them, I'd want to retain the option. I mean, if a massive sponsor came along ...

Vira
Profile Joined November 2010
573 Posts
April 02 2011 09:44 GMT
#707
Actually, I will dont watch at all :/
Crushgroove
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 09:56:28
April 02 2011 09:48 GMT
#708
so where do we go to pay? can't find the store or information. I'm trying to send you money damnit... give me a link!!


EDIT: found it. click the top right.
[In Korea on Vaca] "Why would I go to the park and climb a mountain? There are video games on f*cking TV!" - Kazuke
RuN
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Brazil234 Posts
April 02 2011 10:01 GMT
#709
Bought mine ! Can't wait ! =)
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Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 10:05:06
April 02 2011 10:03 GMT
#710
On April 02 2011 17:42 Maero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 17:09 Defacer wrote:
On April 02 2011 16:44 Maero wrote:
Not worth it at all.

Just in my opinion, but the whole thing seems pretty unprofessional and ran by people with ulterior motives.


Ummm, this I don't understand. Ulterior motives? You mean money?

Are you suggesting there is something wrong with that? Interesting.


I don't have a problem with people doing things for the purpose of money. I do, however, feel like at least one person involved has made a career out of posturing themselves as a professional player without any real accolades to their name, and abusing that to persuade the newer players to starcraft 2 into giving him undeserved revenue. It seems like a league set up in order to receive more money, without any real input from the outside community - the invite system means that there is a possibility of creating the league and receiving prize money even though there may be more deserving players that were not invited as a result of the system of invitations used in the league. The whole thing just seems rather suspicious, and I would rather not be a part of it. That's all!


First of all, this mystery man is an employee of the organization, and while he's obviously good at promoting himself, I don't think you have to worry about this tournament being some high stakes, machavellian scheme to install him as the extreme ruler of Starcraft 2.

I think the invitation is more a result of insuring that the first season featured a diverse range of high quality players from different scenes and continents. It's not a fair or perfect system, but it a much more cost effective way of launching a quality tournament. Even running qualifiers can be complex, lengthy and expensive, and I assume the NASL wanted to hit the ground running with good games. I think the organizers saw the first 3 seasons of GSL qualifiers, and saw how inconsistent the quality of the games and results were.

The second season will feature an open tournament, so hopefully the field of players will naturally improve over time. But honestly, when I look at the roster now no one is really 'dead weight'. There's not bitbybitprime around to slum up the games.


cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
April 02 2011 10:04 GMT
#711
hahaha...this made me laugh...so the biggest development in esports...and people complain that they are not getting it for free...of course i will get a pass.
Crushgroove
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
April 02 2011 10:06 GMT
#712
ALSO.... someone should point out that this will be the FIRST AND ONLY SC2 league broadcast in 1080p at this point. Its about fucking time. Even the GOM vods are only 720. This is Excellent. Very excited and couldn't wait to spend my money.
[In Korea on Vaca] "Why would I go to the park and climb a mountain? There are video games on f*cking TV!" - Kazuke
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
April 02 2011 10:07 GMT
#713
I will buy it for sure lots of content with great players, i would like to know what the difference in commercials is.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
Enzyme
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia183 Posts
April 02 2011 10:07 GMT
#714
Thought I'd mention that if you click the link on the site, it now says there will be no commercials:

» 1080p live stream access

» 24/7 Video On Demand access to all content
(including weekly shows, analysis, highlights, and matches)

» Zero commercial interruption
Perkins1752
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany214 Posts
April 02 2011 10:09 GMT
#715
BW was free and fun to watch, SC2 is neither. Easy choice.
CookieMaker
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada880 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 10:42:25
April 02 2011 10:09 GMT
#716
wow $20 over 3 months..... to all you cheapskates out there, thats the equivalent of a whopping 22 cents per day.

I certainly go on TL at least once a day, and often to look at replays and streams of top players.... now we will have high quality vods from the biggest foreign tournament to-date.

Quit whining and pony up scrooge.

edited.
Micro your Macro
Excessive
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark151 Posts
April 02 2011 10:12 GMT
#717
As much as I'd like to buy it, I simply cannot afford it at the moment
CookieMaker
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada880 Posts
April 02 2011 10:14 GMT
#718
Like holy crap, support e-sports FFS or leave forever, we don't want you here. 22 cents per day. Seriously. It's a joke how freaking cheap some people are.

Pay $350 for your brand-new ipod but won't pay $1 for the app? I understand that, because Apple is so filthy rich and popular they really dont need the money. Can you really say the same for SC2? How much do you really care about this game getting big. Is it worth it to you for 22 measly cents a day?

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Micro your Macro
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
April 02 2011 10:15 GMT
#719
It's not that expensive but NASL just doesn't interest me that much, the quality of play will probably be just much lower then GSL so I don't see a real point in following it during the group stage.
IntotheNorth
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark116 Posts
April 02 2011 10:30 GMT
#720
Im not paying to watch NASL, simply because the NASL player pool i so poor, paying to watch low level league play is unacceptable
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