Hey Listen! - Page 13

On October 27 2010 01:29 Navi wrote:
I like this thread.

On October 25 2010 04:36 Harem wrote:
You're pretty awesome, xcetron.

Thanks for the awesome post that is definitely needed. <3

On October 27 2010 09:12 Radio.active wrote:
YUS FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT!

On October 27 2010 09:27 Tone_ wrote:
God I despise this thread. It's strange though. Everyone saying something incredibly stupid like "finally someone said it". They weren't waiting for someone to say it lol. They are probably guilty of it themselves, and will repeat this again and again. Ofc people are going to get frustrated with things and say they need changes (Cool?). It's not going to change because of one nobody's rant, or 1000 replies saying "yes i support this" blindly.

I agree with the principles, but now how it is ironically written to belittle and accuse the reader. I think it's clearly the product of frustration over something over time. Funnily enough this is what happens when people play sc. Furthermore the majority of TL will be sensible and logical with threads, and even ignore those that are shit.

Think the most annoying thing is amount of smug in here. So many "yes finally, I agree" from people who apparently have been incapable of saying something themselves. Some "I hope people listen and take this to heart" from some random person jumping on the positivity bandwagon.

Got to support the put it in strat forum seciton as a sticky or whatever, as it 100% does not belong here.




I find it hard to come up with some appropriate words for this. What? So, we are to take from this that you have been waiting for this EXACT post? From "someone", anyone? But didn't make one yourself...

On October 27 2010 09:35 Slayer91 wrote:


This thread was trying to get people to be humble. Obviously this was a problem with you. Fact is everyone thinks they are better at sc2 than they really are on a relative scale, myself included. A lot of people make balance discussions and stupid balance posts that clutter the forum mostly based on personal experience. I can cite many times where something seemed imbalanced from playing random, as every race and in every matchup INLCUDING ZVZ. Sometimes the guy got ahead with superior economy management/took a risk and you didn't know and you got steamrolled without making a major mistake. Sometimes I roll someone when I knew I basically won the game 5 minutes beforehand with no prior engagement, and the guy flames the matchup being stupid. You can be damn sure he'd blame imba T/P if it wasn't ZvZ.

The fact is is that mahnini isn't trying to be elitist, he's saying that everyone needs to get off their high horse (aka "diamond league"). Apparently you are extra fond of yours.

On October 27 2010 09:43 Tone_ wrote:


Hmm I see, well if we disregard my never posting / visiting the strategy forums except maybe once in BW era when I first visited TL and that I've never made a topic, then yes, very much on my "high horse" apparently. I presume your post is quite bitter as you're having difficulty getting out of silver league or something.

And the game is a few months old, there are many imbalances. By the time the third expansion rolls around no doubt someone will make a nostalgia post entitled something like 'Do you remember when mutalisks were so powerful' or something, (example only). I don't see what a strategy forum is without personal experiences and individual input. Should every reply be "well x has a range and damage of y, so should beat z with exactly [this] much apm using micro".

But maybe I just found the original post very elitist and unnecessarily angry when I don't even visit the strategy forum in particular.

On October 27 2010 09:43 Tone_ wrote:


Hmm I see, well if we disregard my never posting / visiting the strategy forums except maybe once in BW era when I first visited TL and that I've never made a topic, then yes, very much on my "high horse" apparently. I presume your post is quite bitter as you're having difficulty getting out of silver league or something.

And the game is a few months old, there are many imbalances. By the time the third expansion rolls around no doubt someone will make a nostalgia post entitled something like 'Do you remember when mutalisks were so powerful' or something, (example only). I don't see what a strategy forum is without personal experiences and individual input. Should every reply be "well x has a range and damage of y, so should beat z with exactly [this] much apm using micro". What can you do until then? Ban all independent thought or manage it. Maybe the solution lies in targeting new members through sign-up process or something. Not to come and rant at the decent normal TL members in such a gross manner.

But maybe I just found the original post very elitist and unnecessarily angry when I don't even visit the strategy forum in particular.

On October 27 2010 09:51 Slayer91 wrote:


Although I appreciate your randomly unjustified assumptions (I'm atm over 1900 in diamond, search for "Slayer", nothing special, but far from silver league), if you say you're not in any way respectful of your skill to the point that you could participate in balance discussions, why would you suddenly say "there are many imbalances"??? Changes in the way people play from learning the game can easily change apparent "balance". It's possible that one of the previous patches had perfect balance with "perfect play" (maybe on different maps) but its impossible to ever know.
How is a post saying "hey guys we suck can we really complain about imba as a way to scapegoat our losses?" elitist in any way? In addition, if you "don't even visit the strategy forum in particular" how can you even reply to this thread when you don't have a good idea about the general posting in the sc2 strategy forum??? its mind boggling. I can't even fathom why you would be offended if thats the case??